Foreign Policy

[GATTACA!]

Has nothing to do with her color.

So the caption was inaccurate on accident?

 

[ozzman]

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/early-us-intel-assessment-suggests-strikes-iran-did-not-destroy-nuclear-sites-2025-06-24/

 

[ulukinatme]

This is the foreign policy stuff that I think nearly everyone had on their wish-list with a Trump presidency. He wouldn't be beholden to the same traps that other presidents fall into with subservience to Israel and excuse their every move. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/trump-announces-israel-iran-ceasefire-2025-06-23/

Pretty fucking crazy that Obama/Joe could only muster up "Listen here Jack, it's a bit concerning what's going on over there!", and Trump is the one who tells them to settle fucking down.

This is why the Dems foreign policy is so fucking stupid. They run out the same tired playbook and get outflanked by Trump.

Some great points here. You can say "No, stop" so many times, but if no one is worried about you backing it up then what is really going to deter you from acting irrationally? I don't think anyone feared Biden or a future Kamala as Potus. I don't condone violence under most circumstances, but sometimes you have to get the message across in a forceful way to show you mean business. The strike on Iran could pay dividends in future negotiations with other troublesome countries as Trump has shown that at some point diplomacy fails with stubborn regimes and he's willing to use force when necessary.

 

[TorontoGold]

Some great points here. You can say "No, stop" so many times, but if no one is worried about you backing it up then what is really going to deter you from acting irrationally? I don't think anyone feared Biden or a future Kamala as Potus. I don't condone violence under most circumstances, but sometimes you have to get the message across in a forceful way to show you mean business. The strike on Iran could pay dividends in future negotiations with other troublesome countries as Trump has shown that at some point diplomacy fails with stubborn regimes and he's willing to use force when necessary.

My points were on Trump letting Bibi know who the superpower is. Doesn't matter the American president bombing a middle eastern country is a right of passage. But no president really has given the gears to Israel, and it seems publicly Trump is trying to do that which would be a nice shift.

Of course the neonazi's are loving this because they think Trump is going to abandon Israel, but it's moreso that he seems to understand you can't have an unhinged lunatic going crazy in the middle east anymore. If Trump can reel Bibi in that would be IMO his most significant foreign policy win.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Israel was a big supporter of the Shah.

To borrow your analogy, if your neighbor helped your other neighbor torture and kill your friends and family you wouldn’t do nothing.

So are you using my analogy to show you support the US wiping out Iran's nuclear program, or just pointing out Israel acts of years ago that you disagree with?

Either way, Nazi Germany and modern day Iran have WAY more similarities than differences. The big, obvious outlier here is we knew what Iran was trying to do and stopped a potential genocide before it occurred.

 

[Irish#1]

So the caption was inaccurate on accident?

The content is what counts.

 

[GATTACA!]

The content is what counts.

It's one sentence. Struggle to believe it isn't intentional.

Writing it in broken English is just going to reinforce people's racist views like the person Drayer endorsed in post #3169 calling her Ghetto trash.

 

[calvegas04]

Putting this in here instead of the Awesome Video thread

 

[TorontoGold]

It's one sentence. Struggle to believe it isn't intentional.

Writing it in broken English is just going to reinforce people's racist views like the person Drayer endorsed in post #3169 calling her Ghetto trash.

I'm sure you'll get a "my bad" for posting a racist tweet unknowingly. I couldn't imagine someone doing this and then just laugh reacting, that would be something!

 

[NDVirginia19]

It's really all about how her entire AAVE and way of communicating is completely manufactured. If you watch any videos of her speaking early in her career, it is entirely different. Which is fine, but it has every right to be ridiculed in the same way that we ridiculed how George W Bush faked his southern accent and mannerisms. I'm not speaking to that specific video caption, but generally speaking I think she deserves ridicule for it

 

[drayer54]

It's one sentence. Struggle to believe it isn't intentional.

Writing it in broken English is just going to reinforce people's racist views like the person Drayer endorsed in post #3169 calling her Ghetto trash.

I think she is the symbol and figurehead of the Democratic Party. Please keep her with the microphone. Profound ideas. She plays up the tone and can take shit all day for using it. She’s no victim.

 

[GATTACA!]

I think she is the symbol and figurehead of the Democratic Party. Please keep her with the microphone. Profound ideas. She plays up the tone and can take shit all day for using it. She’s no victim.

So you’re also denying that the caption and video don’t match?

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Here's a hypothetical for everyone to chew on:

Let's pretend we had satellites in 1935 and knew about the concentration camps Nazis were operating.

Does FDR authorize military action/ declare war on Germany?

 

[drayer54]

So you’re also denying that the caption and video don’t match?

Never said that.

 

[GATTACA!]

Never said that.

Then what’s the point of saying she’s not a victim?

 

[Blazers46]

Then what’s the point of saying she’s not a victim?

I love these good faith arguments where someone posted a video and the discussion is everything not the video.

 

[GATTACA!]

I love these good faith arguments where someone posted a video and the discussion is everything not the video.

As if I or Toronto or someone posted a tweet with an inaccurate caption that made Trump sound even more retarded y’all wouldn’t bitch about it.

What’s there to discuss? She’s 100% correct. Congress has the authority to declare war, not the president. Presidential power has been expanded across the board to an absurd degree.

Obama abused it just like Trump just did.

 

[TorontoGold]

As if I or Toronto or someone posted a tweet with an inaccurate caption that made Trump sound even more retarded y’all wouldn’t bitch about it.

What’s there to discuss? She’s 100% correct. Congress has the authority to declare war, not the president. Presidential power has been expanded across the board to an absurd degree.

Obama abused it just like Trump just did.

She said "talk shit" that's just unbecoming of an elected figure!!!!

 

[calvegas04]

Biden strikes again

 

[NDVirginia19]

Biden strikes again

At least from what I’ve read elsewhere, the $30B would be from the Gulf states and not us. Not generally a fan of it, but anything that prevents them from building enrichment sites I would be in favor of.

 

[Bluto]

When they act like civilized human beings and stop blowing up planes, stop strapping explosives to their wives and children to blow up others, stop hiding beneath schools and hospitals, stop raping, stop murdering teenage girls and dragging their bodies through the street in celebration, stop beheading those who disagree with their crazy ass religion, stop throwing gays off buildings, stop invading other countries and attempting to turn them into sharia law controlled shitholes like the one they fled, and stand up for decency and denounce those of their brotherhood who do all those things.

None of us are against Muslims for being Muslim or being brown. We're against a significant portion of them for their behavior and threat to peaceful civilization.

What’s your definition of civilized?

Europeans fought two wars in less than forty years that killed more people than all other wars in the historic record combined to that point and featured the use of chemical weapons, nuclear weapons and the holocaust.

At present we have a bunch of European Jewish settlers who established their current country using terrorism leading the charge on a genocide.

 

[Bluto]

Biden strikes again

This is the Trump playbook.

Blow something up to negotiate something better only to return to what was already in place. So fucking dumb if true.

 

[Bluto]

At least from what I’ve read elsewhere, the $30B would be from the Gulf states and not us. Not generally a fan of it, but anything that prevents them from building enrichment sites I would be in favor of.

The original money sent to them in the Obama deal was money the Carter administration took from them when they froze their assets.

 

[NDVirginia19]

The original money sent to them in the Obama deal was money the Carter administration took from them when they froze their assets.

I mean as I said I’m not a fan of it.

 

[Bluto]

So are you using my analogy to show you support the US wiping out Iran's nuclear program, or just pointing out Israel acts of years ago that you disagree with?

Either way, Nazi Germany and modern day Iran have WAY more similarities than differences. The big, obvious outlier here is we knew what Iran was trying to do and stopped a potential genocide before it occurred.

Ok.

So the country that is not currently committing a genocide or ethnic cleansing and does not base its citizenship on religious/ethnic identity is more comparable to Nazi Germany than a country that is actually in the act of committing a genocide as well as ethnic cleansing and uses religious/ethnic identity as a condition of citizenship.

That’s an objectively stupid argument.

 

[Bluto]

I mean as I said I’m not a fan of it.

Which essentially puts us right back at the Obama deal. Which means all this shit was performative and completely pointless.

 

[ulukinatme]

Which essentially puts us right back at the Obama deal. Which means all this shit was performative and completely pointless.

The JCPOA that Iran was NOT abiding by?

 

[Blazers46]

As if I or Toronto or someone posted a tweet with an inaccurate caption that made Trump sound even more retarded y’all wouldn’t bitch about it.

What’s there to discuss? She’s 100% correct. Congress has the authority to declare war, not the president. Presidential power has been expanded across the board to an absurd degree.

Obama abused it just like Trump just did.

Thanks, Gattaca has entered the conversation…

 

[NDVirginia19]

Which essentially puts us right back at the Obama deal. Which means all this shit was performative and completely pointless.

the JCPOA allowed for enrichment and the limitations completely sunset by 2025. This proposal would not allow enrichment, and we have demonstrated that our western stealth technology absolutely murks their Russian bought S-400s. So no I don’t think it was pointless

 

[RDU Irish]

As if I or Toronto or someone posted a tweet with an inaccurate caption that made Trump sound even more retarded y’all wouldn’t bitch about it.

What’s there to discuss? She’s 100% correct. Congress has the authority to declare war, not the president. Presidential power has been expanded across the board to an absurd degree.

Obama abused it just like Trump just did.

Legitimate beef. Two (or 26,000) wrongs don't make a right. Our country loves to blow shit up and play daddy to the world. "This is going to hurt me more than it hurts you." said no abusive father ever right!