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2 people shot in Ferguson as new protests break out - CNN.com

By Ed Payne and Sara Sidner, CNN
Updated 2:57 PM ET, Wed April 29, 2015

Ferguson, Missouri (CNN)At least three people were shot in separate incidents in Ferguson, Missouri, on late Tuesday and early Wednesday as hundreds of demonstrators gathered in support of protests in Baltimore, a city spokesman said.

Two people were shot in the neck and another was shot in the leg, spokesman Jeff Small said. There is a suspect in custody in the latter case: a 20-year-old male from St. Louis County.

The two victims shot in the neck were hospitalized, Small said.

"Police are having a difficult time investigating because of the rocks being thrown at them," he said. "At this point police are not sure if the (shootings are) linked to the protest or not."

St. Louis Alderman Antonio French posted video on his Twitter account. Multiple gunshots can be heard as people flee in panic.
 
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The NYT's Ross Douthat published a column last Sunday titled "Our Police Union Problem":

FOR decades now, conservatives have pressed the case that public sector unions do not serve the common good.

The argument is philosophical and practical at once. First, the state monopoly on certain vital services makes even work slowdowns unacceptable and the ability to fire poor-performing personnel essential, and a unionized work force creates problems on both fronts.

Second, the government’s money is not its own, so negotiations between politicians and their employees (who are also often their political supporters) amount to a division of spoils rather than a sharing of profits. Third, these negotiations inevitably drive up the cost of public services, benefiting middle-class bureaucrats at the expense of the poor, and saddling governments with long-term fiscal burdens that the terms of union contracts make it extremely difficult to lift.

Finally, union lobbying power can bias public-policy decisions toward the interests of state employees. To take just one particularly perverse example: In California over the last few decades, the correctional officers union first lobbied for a prison-building spree and then, well-entrenched, exercised veto power over criminal justice reform.

These points add up to a strong argument that the rise of public sector unions represents a decadent phase in the history of the welfare state, a case study in the warping influence of self-dealing and interest-group politics.

But as we’ve been reminded by the agony of Baltimore, this argument also applies to a unionized public work force that conservatives are often loath to criticize: the police.

Police unions do have critics on the right. But thanks to a mix of cultural affinity, conservative support for law-and-order policies and police union support for Republican politicians, there hasn’t been a strong right-of-center constituency for taking on their privileges. Instead, many Republican governors have deliberately exempted police unions from collective-bargaining reforms — and one who didn’t, John Kasich of Ohio, saw those reforms defeated.

In an irony typical of politics, then, the right’s intellectual critique of public-sector unions is illustrated by the ease with which police unions have bridled and ridden actual right-wing politicians. Which in turn has left those unions in a politically enviable position, insulated from any real pressure to reform.

Yet reform is what they need. There are many similarities between police officers and teachers: Both belong to professions filled with heroic and dedicated public servants, and both enjoy deep reservoirs of public sympathy as a result. But in both professions, unions have consistently exploited that sympathy to protect failed policies and incompetent personnel.

With this important difference, however: Even with the worst teacher, the effects are diffused across many years and many kids, and it’s hard for just one teacher to do that much damage to any given student. A bad cop, on the other hand, can leave his victim dead or permanently damaged, and under the right circumstances one cop’s bad call — or a group of cops’ habitual thuggishness — can be the spark that leaves a city like Baltimore in flames.

Last December, my colleague David Brooks noted that police unions are resisting change on every issue where police reform might be contemplated, from body cameras for officers to reversing the militarization of local law enforcement. But after the untimely death of Freddie Gray, no issue looms larger than the need to discipline, suspend and fire police officers who don’t belong on the streets — and the obstacles their unions put up to that all-too-necessary process.

The cases from all over the country where unions and arbitration boards have reinstated abusive cops make for an extraordinary and depressing litany. Baltimore is no exception. Last fall, The Baltimore Sun reported on the police commissioner’s struggle to negotiate enough authority to quickly remove and punish his own cops, and the union’s resistance to swift action and real oversight persists.

What we know so far about the officer who first pursued Mr. Gray (his history of mental health issues, in particular) suggests that he might have benefited from being eased into a different line of work. This issue is particularly pressing if you believe that some of the aggressive police tactics criticized in the wake of Mr. Gray’s death, and Eric Garner’s in Staten Island — the stress on quality-of-life and “broken windows” policing, the focus on misdemeanors and disorderly conduct — have played a significant role in America’s declining crime rate and our much-safer cities.

Some liberals have decided these tactics haven’t made a difference, or that they aren’t needed anymore. I think this view is naïve, and dangerously so. But to sustain this kind of police work, it’s necessary to restrain the excesses associated with it; to restrain those excesses, it’s necessary to hold cops accountable. And that can only happen if we reckon with the ways in which police unions, no less than other interest groups, can align against the public that their members vow to serve.
 

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New Shootings Overnight In Ferguson.

New Shootings Overnight In Ferguson.

Gunfire erupts in Ferguson on Michael Brown anniversary - CNN.com


Two shot in Ferguson amid standoff between police, protesters | Reuters


US | Mon Aug 10, 2015 3:35am EDT
FERGUSON, MO. | BY CAREY GILLAM

Two people were wounded in gunfire at a rally in Ferguson, Missouri on Sunday marking the first anniversary of the death of Michael Brown near where the unarmed black teenager was shot dead by a white office.

The gunshots rang out as police tried to disperse demonstrators blocking traffic and smashing windows along a street that was a flashpoint of last year's unrest following the slaying of 18-year-old Michael Brown.

The origin of the gunfire and condition of the two people shot was not immediately known, police said. One of the victims, a black male who looked to be a teenager or young adult, appeared in a Reuters photo to have been badly wounded.

Anniversary commemorations for Brown had begun hours earlier with a peaceful march through the St. Louis suburb after a moment of silence for the teenager, whose death on Aug. 9, 2014, ignited months of demonstrations and a national debate on race and justice.

The scene changed dramatically after dark with dozens of protesters blocking traffic and smashing store windows along West Florissant Avenue, which bore the brunt of last summer's rioting, chanting "Shut it down" in the midst of a severe thunderstorm.


A phalanx of helmeted police wearing body armor and carrying shields moved in. Protesters briefly fell away before regrouping to confront the line of officers, who ordered them to disperse.

The protesters, locking arms and edging closer to the police cordon, began throwing water bottles and shouting, "We are ready for war!" Both sides held their ground, and police did not move immediately to make any arrests as clergy members and activists circulated between the two sides appealing for calm.

The face-off was shattered by several volleys of gunfire, sending police crouching behind their patrol cars and demonstrators scurrying for cover. Helicopters whirred overhead as additional police armed with assault rifles swarmed the area, some roaring down the street in armored vehicles in the direction of the gunfire.

A body could be seen on West Florissant Avenue and a young woman screamed that her brother had been shot. Multiple store windows were smashed and police stood atop vehicles surveying the scene.

Merchants, some armed, stood guard outside their businesses early Monday after the incident.

"The St. Louis County Police Department was involved in an officer-involved shooting after officers came under heavy gunfire," county police spokesman Shawn McGuire said in a statement. He said at least two unmarked police cars had been hit by gunshots.

Brown's death - and a grand jury decision to spare officer Darren Wilson from criminal charges for shooting him - sparked a prolonged wave of demonstrations in Ferguson last year that boiled over into rioting and arson at times and spawned sympathy rallies across the country.

It also sparked greater scrutiny of racial bias within the U.S. criminal justice system, giving rise to the "Black Lives Matter" movement that gained momentum from a series of other high-profile slayings of unarmed minorities by white police in cities such as New York, Baltimore, Los Angeles and Cincinnati.

DOVES, THEN GUNFIRE

The unrest that erupted Sunday night was in marked contrast to a day of mostly subdued, peaceful commemorations in Ferguson and elsewhere.

White doves were released after 4-1/2 minutes of silence to represent the roughly 4-1/2 hours that Brown's body lay in the middle of the street after he was shot. A crowd of about 1,000 then embarked on a silent march through Ferguson to honor Brown and others killed in confrontations with police.

Another name was added to that list on Friday when unarmed 19-year-old Christian Taylor, a black college student, was shot dead by a white police officer investigating a burglary at a car dealership in Arlington, Texas.

A federal review of Brown's slaying found that officer Wilson acted lawfully. However, it also determined that Ferguson's predominantly white police department had for years violated the rights of the city's black population.

The Justice Department report found police were singling out African-Americans for arrests and ticketing, in part to raise revenue for the city. It also found a pattern of excessive force, including the use of attack dogs and electric stun guns, by police against unarmed black citizens.

The city's police chief, city manager and municipal court judge all left their jobs following the report.

The anniversary weekend in Ferguson was also marred by an apparently unrelated drive-by shooting on Sunday afternoon a few blocks away from a church as marchers were approaching, police said. One person was wounded in the foot.

A 17-year-old was arrested early on Sunday after firing at a 22-year-old man in a strip mall parking lot, police said.
 
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At about 3:30 am, the. At Louis County Police Chief John Belmar had a press conference.

Perhaps 6 shooters not counting police.

"Shooters were criminals; not protesters."

4 Plain clothes police were shadowing a man in the crowd suspected of carrying a gun.

Man was involved in a skirmish between 2 groups of people. Man separated himself from the 2 groups.

When man realized he was being followed he opened fire on police and police returned fired.

Possibly 40 - 50 shots were fired in about 40 seconds.

Plain Clothes police do not wear body cams so no video.

One critically wounded non-cop. Gun stolen in Missouri was recovered by police.

Police ask for assistance in identifying participants.
 
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I had hopes they could get through the day without incident. :sad:
 

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I'm not sure what to say about this, so I will leave it without any further comment:

Police arrest Dorian Johnson, Michael Brown's friend - CNN.com



...how scarred is he if he jumped in the middle of another arrest? I guess there are ways, but I think the most prominent way to observe emotional scars is an unhealthy fear response? Seems like a stretch for this guy to bring suit against anyone...he's lucky he isn't in jail for his conduct throughout the Michael Brown ordeal starting in the convenience store the day Brown died.

I wouldn't want to be the judge hearing this debacle in the making.
 

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At about 3:30 am, the. At Louis County Police Chief John Belmar had a press conference.

Perhaps 6 shooters not counting police.

"Shooters were criminals; not protesters."

4 Plain clothes police were shadowing a man in the crowd suspected of carrying a gun.

Man was involved in a skirmish between 2 groups of people. Man separated himself from the 2 groups.

When man realized he was being followed he opened fire on police and police returned fired.

Possibly 40 - 50 shots were fired in about 40 seconds.

Plain Clothes police do not wear body cams so no video.

One critically wounded non-cop. Gun stolen in Missouri was recovered by police.

Police ask for assistance in identifying participants.

This is pretty much the equivalent of Donald Trump asking Megyn Kelly for a blowjob
 

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There is no fixing that place. Or the 15 other shit holes around st louis. Should not even make the news.
 

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I really don't understand why people feel like they have to smash store windows of shops that are in no way responsible for the incident. Those people are a bunch of twats.
 

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I really don't understand why people feel like they have to smash store windows of shops that are in no way responsible for the incident. Those people are a bunch of twats.

racist.
 

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I hope these businesses shut theirs doors for good.

Any insurance actuarial folks in the house?

When a community has these kinds of issues(riots, states of emergency)...does that show up in locale rates, or does all of that get adjusted in the rates of individual customers based on usage?...Or both? Seems like by this point business insurance costs would be prohibitive in Ferguson...
 

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Yeah, can't imagine owning a business in that place. I would have packed up shop a long time ago and left a "Fuck you, looters/rioters" message on the front of the store.
 

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Yeah, can't imagine owning a business in that place. I would have packed up shop a long time ago and left a "Fuck you, looters/rioters" message on the front of the store.

And left a few vicious animals inside my vacant store for a fun surprise.
 

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Police: Video shows Ferguson shooting suspect with gun - CNN.com



"From what I heard, he was there with some friends and they had a confrontation. They start shooting at the friends, and he just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time," Harris' father, Tyrone Harris Sr., told CNN affiliate KMOV.

His aunt, Karen Harris, said the teen attended the protests because he was friends with Brown. Recounting what other family members who were with him described, she said her nephew wasn't carrying a gun and never fired at police. He was "running for his life" just like everyone else, she said, when gunshots rang out.

But police say Harris was firing gunshots himself, an account another person who said he was at the scene of the shooting corroborated.

"Tyrone was right next to me. He was shooting back at them and all that. ... And police shot back at him," 18-year-old Seth Norfleet told CNN.
 
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Yeah, can't imagine owning a business in that place. I would have packed up shop a long time ago and left a "Fuck you, looters/rioters" message on the front of the store.

I have 2 stores on each end of it all. Police are set up in the parking lot of one so they are decent but the store on the other end not so much. Major case squad (?) came in yesterday asking for cameras outside the building because of a "situation that occurred" the night before. It's definitely not a good time having employees in the middle of it all.
 

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Police: Video shows Ferguson shooting suspect with gun - CNN.com



"From what I heard, he was there with some friends and they had a confrontation. They start shooting at the friends, and he just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time," Harris' father, Tyrone Harris Sr., told CNN affiliate KMOV.

His aunt, Karen Harris, said the teen attended the protests because he was friends with Brown. Recounting what other family members who were with him described, she said her nephew wasn't carrying a gun and never fired at police. He was "running for his life" just like everyone else, she said, when gunshots rang out.

But police say Harris was firing gunshots himself, an account another person who said he was at the scene of the shooting corroborated.

"Tyrone was right next to me. He was shooting back at them and all that. ... And police shot back at him," 18-year-old Seth Norfleet told CNN.


It's amazing to me how so many refuse to believe.

I was watching "The First 48" the other night. Tulsa police were investigating the murder of a middle aged drug dealer. Family couldn't believe someone could shoot him because "everyone loved him".
 

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NOT Ferguson But Just Down The Road In St Louis

NOT Ferguson But Just Down The Road In St Louis

St. Louis police fatally shoot teen suspect drawing protests - NY Daily News

BY NINA GOLGOWSKI NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Updated: Thursday, August 20, 2015, 4:38 AM

At least nine people were arrested when protests broke out in the streets of St. Louis on Wednesday after police say two officers shot and killed an armed black teenager while attempting to carry out a search warrant.

The shooting led to roughly 150 people gathering in the streets near the Fountain park home as outraged residents yelled at responding officers, threw glass bottles, bricks and chanted "Black Lives Matter," according to local reports.

Police said the officers were preparing to enter the home just before noon when two black teens, allegedly carrying guns and crack cocaine, tried to escape out a back door.

As the pair made a run for it, ignoring orders to stop and drop their weapons, one of the two teens, identified as 18-year-old Mansur Ball-Bey, allegedly pointed his gun at the officers, police said.

The response led to both officers, who are identified as white and having around seven years on the force, opening fire — one firing a single gunshot and the second firing three.

Ball-Bey was fatally wounded and pronounced dead at the scene while the second suspect, only identified as being in his mid to late teens, managed to escape, police said.

Police say they found a stolen gun and an extended magazine in Ball-Bey's possession while in all four guns and an unspecified quantity of crack cocaine were recovered at the scene. Several others inside the home were taken into custody without incident.

Videos allegedly taken on the streets and uploaded to social media showed a line of blue-clad officers marching along the road.

Another video claims to show smoke bombs being thrown.

"Another youth down by the hands of police," Dex Dockett, 42, who lives nearby, told a reporter at the scene according to CBS News.

"They provoked the situation," fellow neighbor Fred Price, 33, said. "Situations like this make us want to keep the police out of the neighborhood. They're shooting first, then asking questions."
 
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St. Louis police shoot, kill suspect spurring protests - CNN.com

By Dana Ford and Ben Brumfield, CNN
Updated 4:51 AM ET, Thu August 20, 2015

Police used tear gas to disperse demonstrators and made nine arrests Wednesday night in north St. Louis as protests continued over an officer-involved fatal shooting of a young African-American man earlier in the day.

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Police Chief Sam Dotson said some protesters on Wednesday threw bricks and bottles at officers, and eventually police tear gas filled the air.

Dotson also said a car was set on fire and some businesses were burglarized. At night, blazes were reported at houses in the neighborhood.

Police maintained an increased presence at the intersection of Walton and Page, the site of the protests, throughout the night, Dotson said.
 

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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...en-suspect-drawing-protests-article-1.2331377

BY NINA GOLGOWSKI NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Updated: Thursday, August 20, 2015, 4:38 AM

At least nine people were arrested when protests broke out in the streets of St. Louis on Wednesday after police say two officers shot and killed an armed black teenager while attempting to carry out a search warrant.

The shooting led to roughly 150 people gathering in the streets near the Fountain park home as outraged residents yelled at responding officers, threw glass bottles, bricks and chanted "Black Lives Matter," according to local reports.

Police said the officers were preparing to enter the home just before noon when two black teens, allegedly carrying guns and crack cocaine, tried to escape out a back door.

As the pair made a run for it, ignoring orders to stop and drop their weapons, one of the two teens, identified as 18-year-old Mansur Ball-Bey, allegedly pointed his gun at the officers, police said.

The response led to both officers, who are identified as white and having around seven years on the force, opening fire — one firing a single gunshot and the second firing three.

Ball-Bey was fatally wounded and pronounced dead at the scene while the second suspect, only identified as being in his mid to late teens, managed to escape, police said.

Police say they found a stolen gun and an extended magazine in Ball-Bey's possession while in all four guns and an unspecified quantity of crack cocaine were recovered at the scene. Several others inside the home were taken into custody without incident.

Videos allegedly taken on the streets and uploaded to social media showed a line of blue-clad officers marching along the road.

Another video claims to show smoke bombs being thrown.

"Another youth down by the hands of police," Dex Dockett, 42, who lives nearby, told a reporter at the scene according to CBS News.

"They provoked the situation," fellow neighbor Fred Price, 33, said. "Situations like this make us want to keep the police out of the neighborhood. They're shooting first, then asking questions."

You point a gun at anyone that also has a gun and you will be shot. I guess its the cops fault he had a stolen hand gun. Silly me.
 
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