Environmental Issues

[drayer54]

You're attempting to use facts and reason with emotional thinkers. It's like trying to explain calculus to a cat.

The TikTok activist told me this was a good idea.

 

[Irish#1]

Umm, umm and umm.

 

[Bluto]

You're attempting to use facts and reason with emotional thinkers. It's like trying to explain calculus to a cat.

Interesting take considering how the right wing blow hards have moved on from the hysterics of climate change being a “hoax” to “hey guys it won’t be that bad” in-spite of mountains of peer reviewed science stating otherwise.

Those on the right of the John Bircher ilk have a long storied tradition of being hysterical cunts. Lol.

 

[drayer54]

Interesting take considering how the right wing blow hards have moved on from the hysterics of climate change being a “hoax” to “hey guys it won’t be that bad” in-spite of mountains of peer reviewed science stating otherwise.

Those on the right of the John Bircher ilk have a long storied tradition of being hysterical cunts. Lol.

Explain how isolating LNG from the US makes the climate better. How much better? How does improving the market for foreign coal and gas, particularly Russian gas, help lower the temperature? How does this help the energy security of our allies dependent on imported gas?

Why is rejecting this LNG move a direct link to denying the existence of climate change?

I would argue the hysterical cunts are the climate terrorists who block highways, deface art, and demand the most extreme measures without ever weighing the balances and impact because we must only think it is an existential threat.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

Next time some cunt scolds you about separating your recyclables…

‘They lied’: plastics producers deceived public about recycling, report reveals

Companies knew for decades recycling was not viable but promoted it regardless, Center for Climate Integrity study finds

www.theguardian.com

 

[ulukinatme]

Was it all window dressing to get hippies off their backs?

 

[drayer54]

The Inflation Reduction Act was a trillion dollar handout to green energy donors. DOE still is figuring out how to give out more money. The bills from your utility are only a small part of the overall expense. With the new transmission to buildout renewables, this will continue on.

 

[drayer54]

They are bragging about getting tossed. Manchin should have swapped to R. Environmental terrorists.

 

[Sea Turtle]

They are bragging about getting tossed. Manchin should have swapped to R. Environmental terrorists.

Grown men acting like Tankies. 👍

 

[calvegas04]

They are bragging about getting tossed. Manchin should have swapped to R. Environmental terrorists.

I do believe the environment is in trouble and we need to do a lot to fix it. But man environmentalist are insane for the most part

 

[Bishop2b5]

I do believe the environment is in trouble and we need to do a lot to fix it. But man environmentalist are insane for the most part

And here's the thing: their over-the-top stunts and behavior have the opposite effect of what they claim to want to achieve. They alienate and drive in the opposite direction all but the most radical types, who are already on their side anyway.

 

[drayer54]

I do believe the environment is in trouble and we need to do a lot to fix it. But man environmentalist are insane for the most part

Not only are they nuts, but they are driving the White House policy. Same group cited by the White House earlier this year. TikTokers are running the country.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

 

[drayer54]

Only conspiracy folks disagree-

 

[drayer54]

 

[Bishop2b5]

She's no worse than a couple of people in here: just parroting whatever they've been told, using the latest cool buzzwords, and never doing a speck of thinking for themselves. We have one person in here who's her soul mate and literally has never had a single original thought since I've been here. Just parrots the most ridiculous nonsense he gets from every far left source.

 

[ulukinatme]

I swear...when I saw that political candidate suggest that the earthquake in Jersey was a result of climate change, I thought "The Babylon Bee should do something about the upcoming eclipse being caused by climate change." Then we get this. The View has become the Bee.

 

[Irish#1]

Life is stranger than fiction.

 

[RDU Irish]

The Recycling Religion - Stossel TV

Not necessarily new but maybe, just maybe, this can get my wife to stop throwing pizza boxes in the recycling bin.

Funny thing about Sunny - two of those three things are 100% proven predictable, exactly when and where through science. Climate zealots never miss an opportunity to ride coat tails of real science.

 

[IrishLax]

lol

 

[ulukinatme]

lol

Pretty crazy. Doesn't make much difference if we pulled out of the Paris Accords at the end of the day, we're already hitting our marks. Someone has to get China and India on board to really make a dent on the emissions problem.

 

[drayer54]

Pretty crazy. Doesn't make much difference if we pulled out of the Paris Accords at the end of the day, we're already hitting our marks. Someone has to get China and India on board to really make a dent on the emissions problem.

We all know that maintaining pointless international agreements is the only way to lower carbon emissions.

 

[Bluto]

Good to see all the tin foil
hat boo birds coming around to the fact that the climate hoax is in fact real.

Disappointing to see one graph from the entire report posted and the usual dummies piling in attempting to dunk.

Overall annual emissions have risen significantly basically every year since industrialization and only recently begun to drop.

I’d imagine that one big reason the US is “hitting their marks” is due to “woke” libtards and associated policies.

Annual CO₂ emissions

Carbon dioxide (CO₂) emissions from fossil fuels and industry. Land-use change emissions are not included.

ourworldindata.org

 

[Bluto]

We all know that maintaining pointless international agreements is the only way to lower carbon emissions.

Addressing an international issue without international agreements. That’s an interesting idea.

 

[BobbyMac]

Good to see all the tin foil
hat boo birds coming around to the fact that the climate hoax is in fact real.

Disappointing to see one graph from the entire report posted and the usual dummies piling in attempting to dunk.

Overall annual emissions have risen significantly basically every year since industrialization and only recently begun to drop.

I’d imagine that one big reason the US is “hitting their marks” is due to “woke” libtards and associated policies.

Annual CO₂ emissions

Carbon dioxide (CO₂) emissions from fossil fuels and industry. Land-use change emissions are not included.

ourworldindata.org

Elon isn't a wokester.

So how are you going to get China to quit polluting? They're 2x+ worse than us and widening the gap. They produce 1/3 of the world's CO2

 

[Bluto]

Elon isn't a wokester.

So how are you going to get China to quit polluting? They're 2x+ worse than us and widening the gap. They produce 1/3 of the world's CO2

Woke policy has enabled and subsidized that dummies entire business model.

China? Beats me. I’m guessing they clearly understand the issue. Securing the headwaters of the major river systems that flow into China is one of the big reasons they invaded Tibet and how quickly they have come to dominate production in the renewable energy sector demonstrate how serious they are about this.

Maybe an international agreement similar to the SALT treaties?

 

[BobbyMac]

Woke policy has enabled and subsidized that dummies entire business model.

China? Beats me. I’m guessing they clearly understand the issue. Securing the headwaters of the major river systems that flow into China is one of the big reasons they invaded Tibet and how quickly they have come to dominate production in the renewable energy sector demonstrate how serious they are about this.

Maybe an international agreement similar to the SALT treaties?

Musk is a dummie? How come no wokester (or anyone else) figured it out and beat him to market? Guess what, if a tree huggin douchebag would've tried they'd have failed. People accepted electric vehicles because he made them sexy, fast and exclusive instead of golf carts with doors. I mean, almighty GM beat him to market by 12 years and today, Tesla has a market cap 15x higher.

As for China, you can't stop them cuz you can't stop buying their cheap shit at Walmart. And the only reason they've come to dominate production of rare earth minerals is they have it in abundance along with the most expendable human capital to dig the crap outta the ground for pennies. We have plenty of it in the Great Basin but it's expensive to bring to market, so we'll use theirs first.

There is no way China will enter into an agreement like that. SALT was a ceremonial treaty signed by a dying entity. After all the good feelings, the Soviets still had enough warheads to destroy the US a few times over even if only 1/3 of their ICBM's were capable of delivering as designed. Asking China to cut CO2 is an attack on their economy and they don't have any reason to consider it.

BTW... I've already owned electric & hybrid vehicles, I'm a home solar user, get my residential electric from nuclear + hydro and plan to add two wind turbines to the roof of our addition.

 

[ulukinatme]

Good to see all the tin foil
hat boo birds coming around to the fact that the climate hoax is in fact real.

Disappointing to see one graph from the entire report posted and the usual dummies piling in attempting to dunk.

Overall annual emissions have risen significantly basically every year since industrialization and only recently begun to drop.

I’d imagine that one big reason the US is “hitting their marks” is due to “woke” libtards and associated policies.

Annual CO₂ emissions

Carbon dioxide (CO₂) emissions from fossil fuels and industry. Land-use change emissions are not included.

ourworldindata.org

I was going to say not all the boo birds have. I saw something about Greta today and it referenced her 2018 Tweet about the world ending in 2023. There was some misconception apparently that she said all humans would be dead by 2023 if we didn't stop using fossil fuels. Apparently SHE never said that, according to the AP. I guess it was just some "top climate scientist." Top, indeed.

The article Thunberg was quoting has since been deleted, but it was published by the site Grit Post in February 2018 with the headline: “Top Climate Scientist: Humans Will Go Extinct if We Don’t Fix Climate Change by 2023,” according to an archived version of the web page. The first line of the story stated: “A top climate scientist is warning that climate change will wipe out all of humanity unless we stop using fossil fuels over the next five years.”

 

[Bluto]

Musk is a dummie? How come no wokester (or anyone else) figured it out and beat him to market? Guess what, if a tree huggin douchebag would've tried they'd have failed. People accepted electric vehicles because he made them sexy, fast and exclusive instead of golf carts with doors. I mean, almighty GM beat him to market by 12 years and today, Tesla has a market cap 15x higher.

As for China, you can't stop them cuz you can't stop buying their cheap shit at Walmart. And the only reason they've come to dominate production of rare earth minerals is they have it in abundance along with the most expendable human capital to dig the crap outta the ground for pennies. We have plenty of it in the Great Basin but it's expensive to bring to market, so we'll use theirs first.

There is no way China will enter into an agreement like that. SALT was a ceremonial treaty signed by a dying entity. After all the good feelings, the Soviets still had enough warheads to destroy the US a few times over even if only 1/3 of their ICBM's were capable of delivering as designed. Asking China to cut CO2 is an attack on their economy and they don't have any reason to consider it.

BTW... I've already owned electric & hybrid vehicles, I'm a home solar user, get my residential electric from nuclear + hydro and plan to add two wind turbines to the roof of our addition.

Making it all about Elon Musk making things “sexy” is completely disingenuous given the amount of subsidies and that amount of public dollars that have been dumped into the electric vehicle market and supporting infrastructure. Rich dickheads were early adopters of Tesla due to the “sexy” factor but plenty of people bought the not so sexy Chevy Volt early on.

Musk is a dummy in that he seems to be in the process of taking a perfectly good business model that has been propped up by public money and seems to be intent on running it into the ground with a dumb ass convoluted mix of pipe dreams related of AI, missions to Mars and self driving cars. Once the big three come around and based on what China is doing, I would bet Tesla is going to cease to exist in a couple years.

Bernie Madolff and Sam Bankman Fried were hailed as “geniuses” as well.

As to China, everyone could stop buying their “cheap shit” at Walmart if there was some sort of coherent federal policy that propped up domestic production and placed huge tarriffs on useless shit like the new Lebron James Dunk Force 1 tennis shoe.

In terms of rare earth there are plenty of other sources that have been identified (Chile for example) which could be used as leverage against China to facilitate some sort of international agreement that made sense for all parties involved without having to resort to economic and or global mutually assured destruction.

I’m glad and applaud the fact that you have an electric vehicle, solar and what not.

 

[drayer54]

Addressing an international issue without international agreements. That’s an interesting idea.

Agreements are worthless when people don’t follow them.
Look at this one. I got oceanfront property in Arizona if you’re buying this.

https://www.energy.gov/articles/cop28-countries-launch-declaration-triple-nuclear-energy-capacity-2050-recognizing-key

Working together on technology and moving supply chain is more effective than useless agreements.