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Super badass, we have wild animal parks and stuff here too tho... it's not 'Orlando sucks,' it's I'm here right in the middle of the greater LA area, why would I spend all the extra time and money to fly across the country to do a bunch of stuff i can do here?

If my wife and I ever do move to Texas that thought process would change obviously.
Yeah that's fair enough. To me, the particular appeal of Walt Disney World over Disneyland or any of the Universal parks is the "bubble" that's formed by the sheer size of their property. Once you're through the main gates from the airport, you go your entire trip without seeing anything of the outside world. It's one of the main mistakes Walt regretted about Disneyland. He didn't own the land around the parks so third party hotels and knock-off retailers and chain restaurants all pressed up against the park's boundaries, breaking the world-building. But I don't know if that would motivate me to fly to Orlando if I lived in LA.

Is US Orlando actual studios like US Hollywood??
They used to, both at Universal Studios Orlando and Disney's Hollywood Studios (in Orlando). Family Feud was at USO and Who Wants to be a Millionaire was at DHS for a time, but those soundstages and whatnot are no longer in use.

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Sounds like a timeshare would be perfect for you. I can sell you mine for a great price.

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Re: time of year and cramming stuff in...

Wife thinks her Fall Break (usually around first of Oct give or take) might work better. We're thinking just doing Animal Kingdom and Magic Kingdom. How many days to get a good amount of stuff in w/o stressing in just these two areas?
 

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They used to, both at Universal Studios Orlando and Disney's Hollywood Studios (in Orlando). Family Feud was at USO and Who Wants to be a Millionaire was at DHS for a time, but those soundstages and whatnot are no longer in use.

6 Classic Movies and TV Shows Filmed at Disney's Hollywood Studios and Universal Studios Florida | Theme Park Tourist

My fav part of US Hollywood is the fact that half the park is on/in actual working studios and such. It's a small theme park, like really small, but it's still cool, I've seen numerous actors, directors, producers, etc. just walking around the lower part or US Hollywood before... that's always pretty cool given the context.
 

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Re: time of year and cramming stuff in...

Wife thinks her Fall Break (usually around first of Oct give or take) might work better. We're thinking just doing Animal Kingdom and Magic Kingdom. How many days to get a good amount of stuff in w/o stressing in just these two areas?
Five nights, no parks on your travel days, meaning four full "available" days. Two days at the Magic Kingdom and one day at Animal Kingdom with a day off (or two half-days off) sprinkled in.

If you're thinking Fall 2019, you might be on a collision course with the opening of Star Wars Land at Hollywood Studios. Resort-wide crowds will be insane. Not sure if the overall crowd increase will be more or less than offset by the concentration of people going to Hollywood Studios specifically.
 

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Five nights, no parks on your travel days, meaning four full "available" days. Two days at the Magic Kingdom and one day at Animal Kingdom with a day off (or two half-days off) sprinkled in.

If you're thinking Fall 2019, you might be on a collision course with the opening of Star Wars Land at Hollywood Studios. Resort-wide crowds will be insane. Not sure if the overall crowd increase will be more or less than offset by the concentration of people going to Hollywood Studios specifically.

Something to keep an eye on then. I don't want to deal w/ that chaos.
 

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FWIW: I've been to Disneyworld etc with many of my nieces and nephews ---- 3 years old is way too young IMO. The slightly older kids 6-9 had a blast, but the youngest (c.4) was terrorized by the too close characters, except for Minnie Mouse which she didn't remember later anyway. Taking a very young child to these things seems to be for the parents not the child.
 

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I appreciate your guys' feedback, even yours, Wiz. Serious question - you both seem to say 'don't need more than 1 day to experience both HP parks'... Is that true even if I plan on going on all of the HP rides: Escape from Gringotts, Hogwarts Express, Forbidden Journey, Flight of a Hippogriph... I guess I assumed this was going to entail ~4 hours of lines alone.

I went on a Saturday / Sunday on "7/10" busy days. Got there when it opened and left about an hour before close both days. First day I did everything at both HPs once and the second day I did everything a few times and also enjoyed a few specialty drinks in Diagon Alley, and saw all the shows. The Beetle and Bard show is a different story every time. I probably spent two hours going around with the wand and going through all of the shops. I also did literally everything in the park including HP at least once, had plenty of time to eat, saw all of the shows I wanted to see and didn't feel rushed in the least. If you're going solely for HP one day is MORE than enough. Again, was super bored by the end of the second day lol.

Edit: Even if you're in line for 4 hours, that gives you at least 8 hours to experience the park and do other things. More than enough if you get there when it opens.

More tips: Do the wand experience first, it gets crowded and is quite slow, and nobody does it in the morning. If you're a nerd you can ask the person to pick you as long as there aren't any super enthusiastic kids in your group. Single rider lines are where it's at. Gringotts is hit or miss on the line but I never waited more than 20 minutes and did it 8 times in a row with zero line Sunday mid-day. You'll want to go through the regular line for Gringotts at least once to see the bank and the scenery. You're forgetting the dueling dragons, that one had literally zero line at all times of the day and it's a pretty good coaster. You also won't want to do FotH more than once, it's a kid's ride.

If you for some reason get a fast-pass definitely use it on the Hulk and not Gringotts. It's by far the longest line and the best coaster in either park. The single rider line is not necessarily the best for all rides, the Mummy and Rock N Rollercoaster were longer for single riders in my experience. It depends on the setup of the cars and is random based on the crowd going through the line.
 
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Wiz,

You realize there's a bigger unit of time than months, right?
You're addressing a man who rejects the notion that vacations to anywhere other than the Magic Kingdom are valid.

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You're addressing a man who rejects the notion that vacations to anywhere other than the Magic Kingdom are valid.

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You'd feel the same way if you got free admission for your whole family and 50% off hotel rooms. That changes the value proposition quite a bit.
 

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You'd feel the same way if you got free admission for your whole family and 50% off hotel rooms. That changes the value proposition quite a bit.

not really, exploring new places I have never been is amazing.
 

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You'd feel the same way if you got free admission for your whole family and 50% off hotel rooms. That changes the value proposition quite a bit.

Nothing wrong in taking advantage of a great deal, but after about four trips within 2-3 years, it would lose its attraction for me.
 

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FWIW: I've been to Disneyworld etc with many of my nieces and nephews ---- 3 years old is way too young IMO. The slightly older kids 6-9 had a blast, but the youngest (c.4) was terrorized by the too close characters, except for Minnie Mouse which she didn't remember later anyway. Taking a very young child to these things seems to be for the parents not the child.

This has been our family's biggest challenge in making the decision to book a trip or not. We gave it some more thought last night, and I'm slightly leaning towards age 5+ and a lot of it will depend on kid #2, whenever that time comes. I could picture a scenario where we go when my daughter is 5 and then again every 2-3 years so both kids eventually get to multiple experiences at different ages. I think they'll remember it better and cherish/enjoy it more. Reality is that my daughter is only 2 right now, so I have plenty of time to figure it out.
 

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BBG: I realize others don't agree, but the children will have not only full lifetime memories with Mom and Dad if they are older, but they will understand WAY more of the content of the Park, which is considerable, AND Mom and Dad will have opportunities for far deeper interactions with them.


If it was just am exciting experience for a really young child that one was looking for, you can get that at a local park with a pond with ducks and geese on it, and butterflies flying around. The child will have a great time with Mom and Dad and will remember very little of that either. (bring some bubble stuff and blow bubbles.)
 
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My wife wants to take our kids there. We have a 10, 8, and 5 year old. Reading all this sounds like this trip would be an absolute nightmare for me. It seems like you have to strategize and plan everything and that the stress levels in doing so would be high. I'm sure we will do it at some point soon but I'm pretty sure I'm going to hate it.
 

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BBG: I realize others don't agree, but the children will have not only full lifetime memories with Mom and Dad if they are older, but they will understand WAY more of the content of the Park, which is considerable, AND Mom and Dad will have opportunities for far deeper interactions with them.


If it was just am exciting experience for a really young child that one was looking for, you can get that at a local park with a pond with ducks and geese on it, and butterflies flying around. The child will have a great time with Mom and Dad and will remember very little of that either. (bring some bubble stuff and blow bubbles.)

There will always be exception to the rules, but I agree with OMM. Little ones 3 and under may or may not get scared, but how much will they really comprehend and retain? We've been to WDD so many times over the years I don't remember the number. I can tell you our youngest was 2 or 3 when he went for the first time and he doesn't remember it at all. If we didn't have the older kids, we wouldn't have taken him at that age. My wife went to WDD the summer 72. Believe it opened in Oct 71. Hard to believe it's been around for 45 years.
 

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My wife wants to take our kids there. We have a 10, 8, and 5 year old. Reading all this sounds like this trip would be an absolute nightmare for me. It seems like you have to strategize and plan everything and that the stress levels in doing so would be high. I'm sure we will do it at some point soon but I'm pretty sure I'm going to hate it.

Book an all inclusive trip. Best way to go.

Do not plan beyond, "We'll hit WWD this day, Epicot this day, etc.". Trying to plan what rides to hit and what attractions to hit in some order ruins the experience and makes you feel rushed. Walk through the gates and after deciding to go left, right or straight ahead, do what grabs your attention.
 

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not really, exploring new places I have never been is amazing.
Exploring new places isn't nearly as much fun with a toddler. Literally every argument anyone has made about not bringing a young child to WDW also applies if we were going to bring her to the Grand Canyon or Kauai or Tanzania. The only way around the "...but she won't really remember it" argument is to just skip family vacations entirely, which isn't an option for me.

Nothing wrong in taking advantage of a great deal, but after about four trips within 2-3 years, it would lose its attraction for me.
The attraction shifts. Now it's not about hype and excitement, it's about returning to old favorites. Lots of people go to multiple Notre Dame games every year for more or less the same experience. It's not much different than that.

BBG: I realize others don't agree, but the children will have not only full lifetime memories with Mom and Dad if they are older, but they will understand WAY more of the content of the Park, which is considerable, AND Mom and Dad will have opportunities for far deeper interactions with them.
To be clear, I'm not suggesting that anyone take a young child instead of taking them when they're a bit older. If BBG's question is "should I take my kid when she's 2 or when she's 5," then the answer is "when she's 5." But if the question is "is my 2 year old too young for her first trip," with the assumption that they'll be back a few years later, then the answer is "no."

If it was just am exciting experience for a really young child that one was looking for, you can get that at a local park with a pond with ducks and geese on it, and butterflies flying around. The child will have a great time with Mom and Dad and will remember very little of that either. (bring some bubble stuff and blow bubbles.)
These things aren't mutually exclusive. My wife doesn't work, so "local park with a pond with ducks, etc." is a normal Thursday for my daughter. We just got back from four nights in the New Hampshire lakes region. My mother in-law has a house in Ocean City. We've been to Stowe, Hershey, Newport, Hilton Head, and elsewhere. I'm definitely not recommending Disney at the expense of all other experiences.

There will always be exception to the rules, but I agree with OMM. Little ones 3 and under may or may not get scared, but how much will they really comprehend and retain?
What do you suggest instead? What's the family vacation that a toddler would comprehend and retain?

Do not plan beyond, "We'll hit WWD this day, Epicot this day, etc.". Trying to plan what rides to hit and what attractions to hit in some order ruins the experience and makes you feel rushed. Walk through the gates and after deciding to go left, right or straight ahead, do what grabs your attention.
I could not disagree more. Planning reduces stress, it doesn't increase it. If you don't plan, you stress out when you're in the park because you're totally unprepared so you scramble. Your wife freaks out that you missed the 2:00 parade because you didn't know there was a 2:00 parade. When you plan ahead, you might have a little more stress leading up to the trip, but then when you're actually on the trip, you have confidence that you're not going to miss out on the things you really want to do because you know the ins-and-outs.
 
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Agree with Wiz. You have to plan for Disney or the place will swallow you whole. Not that you will have a bad time, but those who plan get more out of their day than those who shoot from the hip. Just my experience.
 

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Nothing wrong in taking advantage of a great deal, but after about four trips within 2-3 years, it would lose its attraction for me.

I'm late 20s and have been 7 times in the last 3 years... 3 times were conferences with half days in the parks. If you go with people that enjoy it, you get a lot more out of it. You can go different times of the year for different themes, shows, "parties", etc. It's also a pretty darn cheap vacation if you can find deals (I've done 5 nights on Disney property, 6 day park passes, meal plans, and flights for ~900pp before and I don't have connections). I also always try to do a few new things every time and there are a few rides I never get tired of. There's also quite a few other things to do in Orlando if you get tired of Disney and want to split up a vacation into different parks / entertainment. To each their own!
 

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goldandblue: the following is an old man's perspective, but I stand by it, and believe that nearly everyone here will grow into it when THEY get old.

YOU DON"T HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING.
YOU DON"T HAVE TO SEE EVERYTHING.

These times are for YOU and your family. No matter how big the scenery, it's the sharing of "moments" between you that's important. Shockingly, seeing Mickey Mouse, in the end, isn't important. Hugging one another in a non-stressed happy moment is.

When I went with my nieces and nephews (and adult family including my Mom), I ran around like a striped-tailed ape trying to see every last iota of the place --- the times that really mattered were sitting on the deck of the treehouse "apartment" watching the peacocks with Mom and the kids, or relaxing at a themed meal, or settling into a specially interesting imaginative "ride." --- NON-stress times. Those things occurred when I wasn't trying to do TOO much.

Should you go? Sure (if you can afford it). But go with the idea of NOT rushing to glimpse everything. Pick some targets. Take time to just BE with the place rather than run through it. It's not just you who will enjoy it more that way.

I've missed a lot a experiences in my life by running through them rather than stopping and being with them.

In today's wealthy world (and we are) if the spirit moves you, you can always go back.
 
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