Defensive Coordinator Search 2020

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I think they have to keep Elston so I'd go to him and guage his interest first and foremost in staying if he isn't the DC. If he was willing to leave if passed over then by all means keep him for now. But I have some reservations about it.

I'd start by making a list of a couple few guys that are consider the best available options, Freeman, being one of them and see what you can get done.

If not promote Elston and rock and roll.
 

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I don't know. He was passed over when BK hired Diaco, BVG, Greg Hudson, Elko, and Lea.

I'd like to know why they did that in name but it was in name only. By all accounts, after the fact, Elston was the DC.

I'd be interested to see if there was any inside info on this situation that Lax or anyone was comfortable sharing. The II guys have been very forward that Elston was the DC.
 

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This name is getting overlooked, but he has to be on the short list. Best defense in the offensive minded Big 12, and he has to get people to want to live in Ames, Iowa. Has to be all development there. Can only imagine what he would do with elite athletes.

Pretty sure BK mentioned last year leading up to the Bowl that he was on the short list of guys before hiring Lea
 

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Hey Lion, reps... almost made one of these earlier. Do you mind updating your OP with the candidates that come up in the media as we go along.

I will absolutely do that. I'll embed Tweets with "ND will probably look at...", and add a legit list of anyone that gets mentioned as officially interviewing.
 

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This name is getting overlooked, but he has to be on the short list. Best defense in the offensive minded Big 12, and he has to get people to want to live in Ames, Iowa. Has to be all development there. Can only imagine what he would do with elite athletes.

I love Heacock and the 3-3-5 for what it is. If he was the guy, I'm sure I'll be quite optimistic about it.

But, if I'm being honest with myself, I'm just not sure that is what we need to take the next step or keep us at this level defensively.

My concern would be Havoc rate. The system is great at 'keeping the points down'. But, I believe, with as good as that defense is, their Havoc rate is something like 22nd. ND is 3rd.

The 3-3-5 has similarities to our 4-2-5 but it also seems a more passive. A lot of zone coverages, limiting big plays, etc. All that is good for a season but I'm not sure it closes the gap against the elite teams when you need big plays.

And, I just can't get off how we absolutely shredded that defense in the bowl game.

With all that said, could our personnel get that system to the next level? Very well could. Do we have some personnel overlap? Sure. Is it the right move to get over the hump or stay where we are? Unsure.
 
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I'd like to know why they did that in name but it was in name only. By all accounts, after the fact, Elston was the DC.

I'd be interested to see if there was any inside info on this situation that Lax or anyone was comfortable sharing. The II guys have been very forward that Elston was the DC.

That's interesting to hear. If what you say is true then it was probably that if you give a guy the title, it's hard to take it away if he does reasonably well.
 

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Speaking of Havoc Rate, Pitt is at the top as of last week. If Narduzzi is canned, do you kick the tires? Let me try to link my source

https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaaf/2020-college-football-havoc-ratings
 

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No way would Narduzzi come to work for BK lol

Narduzi hates Kelly and ND, right?

Yes and no. He hates ND like a woman scorned. He really wanted the ND job when Swarbrick was shopping after 2016. I think he'd absolutely take the HC position if offered (lol), but there's no way he'd take a demotion just to move to ND. Narduzzi has too much pride for that.
 

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Speaking of Havoc Rate, Pitt is at the top as of last week. If Narduzzi is canned, do you kick the tires? Let me try to link my source

https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaaf/2020-college-football-havoc-ratings

Guys like Narduzzi go to schools where they have complete autonomy over their side of the ball. He'll end up working for a head coach who runs his school's offense and doesn't want to bother.

From what I've read, Lea was great at working collaboratively with other people. If ND wants to find another guy like that they will have better luck with an up-and-comer than a retread.
 

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Speaking of Havoc Rate, Pitt is at the top as of last week. If Narduzzi is canned, do you kick the tires? Let me try to link my source

https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaaf/2020-college-football-havoc-ratings

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I think ND and CBK have entirely new perspectives of what they are looking for in staff and coordinators.

1. Interpersonal dynamics with other staff members. The Jeff Quinn - Chip Long conflicts can't happen anymore because that will hold a team back. Elston and Joseph have to work well with whoever is coming in. Elston seems like he would be accommodating to an outside entity because of his longevity in South Bend but the question always remains about his desire to be a DC and HC one day. Maybe he is a Bud Foster-type. Some aspirations but really content with his boss and his job that pays him well.

2. A teacher and role model for young men. If you listen to CBK's quotes about Clark Lea and Tommy Rees he always, always talks about how they are good teachers and care for the players. Notre Dame recruits mature young men who are bright, intelligent, and will naturally have a sense of curiosity. In short, they are NOT the type that will take to getting yelled at and "MF'd," so to speak, by coaches without a purpose. Clark Lea demonstrated that players will respond to you if you care about them individually - you can be a disciplinarian and demanding but it's a "you get what you give" scenario now. Again, don't expect more Chip Long personalities.

3. Recruiting - the defensive line depth is unlike any other time in the last 20+ years. The cornerbacks are being built up by Mickens. We have all of these linebackers who can just find ways to make plays. We talk regularly about the success of 5 or 6 different linebackers every week - it's crazy! Safeties need a little more depth but I am confident in that as well. Keeping the momentum will be especially important. Someone young, confident, energetic, and caring would be ideal. Notre Dame is really recruiting to certain "traits" in young men and you will absolutely need a defensive coordinator who is consistent in that.

4. Scheme: The 4-2-5 scheme has worked well for ND - but what has really made the difference is Clark Lea's ability to adapt game plans and schemes to the personnel, not the other way around. It's the Bill Belichick strategy that is so easy to talk about and makes so much sense but always loses out to coaching ego. It's important that the next DC can use a Junior Kyle Hamilton in 2021 but be able to adapt to protect the safeties when he's gone in 2022. Low ego adaptability is a must.

I don't know much about the personalities of these names being thrown about. But the defensive cupboard is pretty stocked. The improved depth of the DL will continue to reap rewards with more penetration/pressure which will in turn make the DB jobs easier and the LBs more able to fill gaps.

Thoughts on names I've heard:

- Mike Elko: consistency in scheme but bridge burned too badly when he left. Low likelihood but there is always a bygones-be-bygones possibility.
- Mike Elston: he's the longest tenured member of the coaching staff and passed over 3 times. Does he want the DC position or does he honestly, genuinely care for that DL role? He could be a Harry Hiestand like coach - only wants that one job (and his Associate HC role/pay).
- Marcus Freeman: young guy, energetic. Could potentially recruit to ND and build a scheme around the guys we have. No idea if his scheme would translate to a P5 level, but it did for Elko form BGSU to WF to ND.
- Charlie Strong: history with ND (and Urban Meyer!). Could recruit like crazy and was an excellent defensive coordinator. I don't know if he has been able to adapt his defenses over the years. I also don't know if he is still a good defensive mind and how much of the opinion on him is clouded because of the bad HC jobs at Texas and USF causing him to lose luster.
- Pat Narduzzi: We all read what he said about ND being a part member - but you also have to remember what he said when ND whooped on Pitt this year. He said they've played championship caliber teams before and ND is as good as any team they've EVER played. He can recruit the defense and his schemes can be good. Is he a teacher? Can he control his temper? I don't know.

I don't know enough to form opinions or to even have thoughts about some of the other names mentioned.
 

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I’m all for an Elko return

Given what a mercenary POS he is, we probably could hire him away from aTm with a large enough bid. But I'm 99% certain that Swarbrick and Kelly have no interest in debasing themselves that way. If you all you care about is money, you're not fit to lead ND students of any sort.
 

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I think they have to keep Elston so I'd go to him and guage his interest first and foremost in staying if he isn't the DC. If he was willing to leave if passed over then by all means keep him for now. But I have some reservations about it.

I'd start by making a list of a couple few guys that are consider the best available options, Freeman, being one of them and see what you can get done.

If not promote Elston and rock and roll.

He seems like he is a very likeable guy. He is hard at it on the recruiting trail even though he doesn't bring many top guys in. But he brings some good guys and he and the staff have built great depth. The D-line guys love him. He has been here for what seems like forever. I would be ok with giving this a try.
 

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Still can't believe that Elko is only 43. I would have thought he was older than BK.
 

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Why does anyone think this is even a remote possibility? Has this become a joke I'm unaware of?

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An article and the podcast over at II has mentioned Elko as a candidate. Nothing serious, but they mentioned him and Kelly are still on good terms and you would at least have to call him to get a feel for what is going through his head right now. They all agreed ND would not pay what he's making at A&M, but he may not like it enough at A&M to stay.
 

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Marcus freeman has like 6 kids under 12, not saying that he can’t be hired away but might not be that easy.
 

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Marcus freeman has like 6 kids under 12, not saying that he can’t be hired away but might not be that easy.

It’s amazing he has the time to coordinate a defense with that kind of bedroom schedule.
 

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Elston has what, 3 games experience coordinating a defense? Not sure he has the experience for the job

Dubs, just how many games of experience did Lea have as a DC????? Not trying to sound like a dick, but I don't think he'd ever been a DC anywhere before.
 
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