Defensive Coordinator Search 2020

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We have a few different variations of Defensive Coordinator threads out there, but I figured we could dedicate one to the actual replacement, rather than talk of Lea, BVG, the merits of certain jobs, the idea of coach-in-waiting, etc.

So, who does ND target to lead the defense in '21?

Internal Candidates:
1. Mike Elston
2. Terry Joseph
3. ?Mike Mickens?

External Candidates:
1. ??? (Marcus Freeman - Cincinnati [Just keep robbing the good ones from UC as long as they keep doing their thing])
2. ???
3. ???

With the way the defense has played, I can see the merits in hiring from within and keeping stability, especially after seeing the nightmare that occurred after the Diaco --> BVG transition. This isn't a DC job that's in a bad place, so you don't necessarily need to make a splash to keep the defense on a good path, whereas going outside the current coaching staff could either be (1) a homerun like Elko, or (2) a total disaster when you upset the cart and take a chance on a guy that hasn't been around.

However, going out and getting the next up-and-comer from somewhere that has proven results, or robbing an established DC if you can get someone to jump, is attractive for other reasons.

Could ND drop enough cash to make Jim Leonhard leave his alma mater, for example? That's a dream scenario IMO, but maybe arrogant to think he'd leave Wisconsin for ND considering his situation at Wiscy.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Names for ND DC job: Cincinnati’s Marcus Freeman, Oklahoma’s Alex Grinch, UNC’s Jay Bateman, Wisc’s Jim Leonhard, BC’s Tem Lukabu, Kentucky’s Brad White, Missouri’s Ryan Walters, Iowa’s Seth Wallace, Western Kentucky’s Clayton White and Ball State’s Tyler Stockton (ND Alum). 1/2</p>— Pete Thamel (@PeteThamel) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1338932947731279873?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The tenor of the search could be dictated by an internal desire to keep the Elko/Lea system. ND associate HC Mike Elston and Terry Joseph would be top internal candidates. Others who know it are Wake DC Lyle Hemphill and A&M LB coach Tyler Santucci.</p>— Pete Thamel (@PeteThamel) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1338932948515557384?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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We have a few different variations of Defensive Coordinator threads out there, but I figured we could dedicate one to the actual replacement, rather than talk of Lea, BVG, the merits of certain jobs, the idea of coach-in-waiting, etc.

So, who does ND target to lead the defense in '21?

Internal Candidates:
1. Mike Elston
2. Terry Joseph
3. ?Mike Mickens?

External Candidates:
1. ???
2. ???
3. ???

With the way the defense has played, I can see the merits in hiring from within and keeping stability, especially after seeing the nightmare that occurred after the Diaco --> BVG transition. This isn't a DC job that's in a bad place, so you don't necessarily need to make a splash to keep the defense on a good path, whereas going outside the current coaching staff could either be (1) a homerun like Elko, or (2) a total disaster when you upset the cart and take a chance on a guy that hasn't been around.

However, going out and getting the next up-and-comer from somewhere that has proven results, or robbing an established DC if you can get someone to jump, is attractive for other reasons.

Could ND drop enough cash to make Jim Leonhard leave his alma mater, for example? That's a dream scenario IMO, but maybe arrogant to think he'd leave Wisconsin for ND considering his situation at Wiscy.

I just said it in the Lea thread, but if Kelly goes external I hope he goes Marcus Freeman at Cincy.

1) He is also a linebackers coach, so would fill in nicely for Lea
2) His defense has been good every year he's been there. #5 this year, #18 last year, #9 in 2018 in scoring defense
3) Young hire

The big question would be can he recruit
 

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Hey Lion, reps... almost made one of these earlier. Do you mind updating your OP with the candidates that come up in the media as we go along.
 

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Anyone off Elko’s staff that may be ready? I’m assuming there is bad blood and we’d probably go internal if we decide to promote someone to their first DC job. Who ended up going with him from ND?
 

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Loy just said our first call should be to Elko. Has he lost his mind or am I missing something?
 

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No connections to BK or ND that I could find, and arent young up and comers.

Brad Lambert at Marshall
Brian Borland at Buffalo - Lance Leipold is likely leaving Buffalo so Brian could be up for the HC job there.
 
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No connections to BK or ND that I could fine, and arent young up and comers.

Brad Lambert at Marshall
Brian Borland at Buffalo - Lance Leipold is likely leaving Buffalo so Brian could be up for the HC job there.

I like both of these as well. Would still go young up and comer though.
 

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I’d like to keep scheme and personnel continuity. Elston has been around this current defense and should be comfortable with it. He’s also a great guy and recruiter. This is an internal hire I wouldn’t mind.
 

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Elston and keep running the same system. If Elston fails you go look for a new DC in '21 or '22.
 

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Elston and keep running the same system. If Elston fails you go look for a new DC in '21 or '22.

hard thing about this is do we know how much Elston really knows the system. He has positionally coached it for 3 years now. Is that enough to know it top to bottom, make the halftime adjustments, etc.

I really do like Elston and he certainly deserves his chance.
 

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Elston, stay the course.
If not Elston, clone Lea. We have the science!
 

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hard thing about this is do we know how much Elston really knows the system. He has positionally coached it for 3 years now. Is that enough to know it top to bottom, make the halftime adjustments, etc.

I really do like Elston and he certainly deserves his chance.

I feel like I know the system: Rover.
 

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Agree with Elston. He's done a phenomenal job with the big boys up front, is a proven recruiter, and I think he's due for his shot if he wants it.

Better be a damn good hire otherwise. I don't know this for a fact, but I have to imagine Elston would bee slighted if he got passed up for this.
 

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From that site:

"Iowa’s linebackers were an inexperienced crew in 2018 but contributed greatly to Iowa’s high national ranking in several team categories. Amani Hooker, splitting time between safety and outside linebacker, earned All-America recognition while being named the Tatum-Woodson Big Ten Defensive Back of the Year."

Sounds like a Rover type that we now have guys for.
 

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I might test the waters on Marcus Freeman and then if that doesn't feel right or he is uninterested, keep it in house.
 

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If Elston wasn't the answer last time, what's changed? Obviously he wasn't the answer in hindsight because Lea was so incredibly good, but BK passed on him and not much has changed.

Perhaps just not having a Lea out there makes Elston the best choice, but there are other Lea's out there, you just have to mine them out.
 

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We'll do a "thorough search" that ultimately ends with an Elston promotion, much like Rees at OC this past year. They should at least kick the tires on Freeman, though.
 

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Elston has what, 3 games experience coordinating a defense? Not sure he has the experience for the job
 

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Gotta be Elston, right? Anybody really think it won't be him?
 
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