COVID-19

[TorontoGold]

I'm genuinely curious how they know what strain is particularly dominant at any one time since the tests don't tell you what strain you have. They've got to be doing some kind of random sampling in a lab I would think using positive tests. Are they checking each region, and what's the sample size if so?

A cousin of mine gave birth and got tested as a precaution as she was going in...they tested her and found out she had the UK variant. Might be more of a feasibility type thing, like a drugstore may not have the same capabilities as a hospital?

 

[SonofOahu]

I'm genuinely curious how they know what strain is particularly dominant at any one time since the tests don't tell you what strain you have. They've got to be doing some kind of random sampling in a lab I would think using positive tests. Are they checking each region, and what's the sample size if so?

Tests taken at medical facilities using PCR will send the samples in to their department of health for viral profiling.

 

[Irish#1]

The questions are 1 do we need a variant specific vaccine, and what will this do to hospital capacity. Hope pharma is readying vaccines, MABs, and the new oral meds. My guess is this gives us another wave that's less bad than delta due to accrued vaccines/natural immunity.

If there's significant immune escape/the R0 is significantly higher the big lower is china. Their vaccine is weak and they have no natural immunity. If this is measles contagious they don't have a way to stop the spread, no matter how draconian their lockdowns.

I wasn't paying close attention while getting ready for work this morning, but I thought I heard it mentioned that a new vaccine wouldn't be needed?

 

[PerthDomer]

I wasn't paying close attention while getting ready for work this morning, but I thought I heard it mentioned that a new vaccine wouldn't be needed?

We don't know. The studies will take a week or two to do. We also don't know if just boosting will be sufficient/better than building a new shot. It's unlikely that efficacy goes to zero. Current protection for mortality is basically the equivalent of getting 30 years younger (60 yo vaccinated=30 yo unvaccinated). It could be reduced to 20 years of protection 15 etc. We just don't know.

 

[Domer Dude]

Hello people...I use that term loosely.

Little Omicron experience to share. Know someone from South Africa who just had Omicron and is on the mends. Person (~60 years old) had 2 doses of Pfizer about 2 months after second dose so immunity still pretty strong. Stated worst flu ever - thought would be dead if didn't have vaccine. This support today's news that you need 3 doses for protection.

That's the facts jack...

 

[BrownerandFry]

So now we've got this "Omnicron" (lol) variant to keep in mind. Gonna be another winter where we stay in the whole time? I'm holding out on my booster for my company to confirm that they're offering flex PTO to get it just like they offered for the OG vaccine.

not sure where you are, but it's not a time consuming process locally. Quck, easy, uncomplicate.

 

[GoldenToTheGrave]

not sure where you are, but it's not a time consuming process locally. Quck, easy, uncomplicate.

I got my about a month ago, scheduled the day before at the CVS 2 blocks away from my house and was in and out in 30 min tops.

 

[zelezo vlk]

not sure where you are, but it's not a time consuming process locally. Quck, easy, uncomplicate.

I just want the free 2 hours off work. They confirmed we get it, now I just gotta actually set up the appointment.

 

[Sea Turtle]

Go to Wal Mart. No appointment, no wait, no charge.

 

[TorontoGold]

I just want the free 2 hours off work. They confirmed we get it, now I just gotta actually set up the appointment.

If you have bad side effects, your work give you a sick day?

 

[zelezo vlk]

If you have bad side effects, your work give you a sick day?

The 2 hours is an incentive for us to go get the vaccine & boosters. Side effects are on us.

 

[TorontoGold]

The 2 hours is an incentive for us to go get the vaccine & boosters. Side effects are on us.

Damn, that's too bad. Hopefully the side effects aren't as bad on the booster.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Damn, that's too bad. Hopefully the side effects aren't as bad on the booster.

I've actually talked with more people who've had worse effects on the booster than on shots 1 & 2. Still nothing too bad though.

 

[GowerND11]

My first shot was the worst of them all. I did have COVID prior to getting the vaccines though.

My booster gave me a sore arm (less than the others), a pounding headache for about 18 hours, and a slight chill. Still, less than the other two.

 

[NDBoiler]

I've actually talked with more people who've had worse effects on the booster than on shots 1 & 2. Still nothing too bad though.

That was the case for me, felt worse from the booster. I had some minor muscle aches and tiredness after the second shot, but had the same only a bit stronger with the booster. Still went to work though, wasn’t enough to make me want to stay in bed or anything. Interestingly enough, I found out I had a close contact shortly after I got my booster and tested positive a few days later. Had absolutely zero symptoms though.

 

[ulukinatme]

I've actually talked with more people who've had worse effects on the booster than on shots 1 & 2. Still nothing too bad though.

That's what happened with my wife. No major issues with the first two, but the booster left her with digestive issues she's still trying to shake. She's had problems like that since our 3rd child was born going on 7 years now, but they've gotten worse since the booster. No idea what the deal is.

 

[IrishRazor82]

Anyone tracking the sudden heart related death of athletes world wide? Up 500% in 2021.

183 FIFA players alone have collapsed with sudden heart issues, 108 of them have died. Former Bronco receive Demaryius Thomas (33 years old) just collapsed and first on the scene are calling it a heart attack, although the big media giants are trying to link it to a 2019 car crash.

Anyone find this interesting at all?

 

[dankgesang]

Anyone tracking the sudden heart related death of athletes world wide? Up 500% in 2021.

183 FIFA players alone have collapsed with sudden heart issues, 108 of them have died. Former Bronco receive Demaryius Thomas (33 years old) just collapsed and first on the scene are calling it a heart attack, although the big media giants are trying to link it to a 2019 car crash.

Anyone find this interesting at all?

Re: Thomas I thought it was seizures. Where are you seeing first on the scene dx heart attack?

 

[Irishize]

More MAB getting emergency approval from the FDA. Who knows, MABs may prove out to be more effective than the vaccine? Time will tell but it’s good to know there are additional options for those who have autoimmune issues or allergies to the vaccine’s components. Side effects from MAB seem to be milder, too. At any rate, glad there’s more options coming.

 

[IrishRazor82]

Re: Thomas I thought it was seizures. Where are you seeing first on the scene dx heart attack?

First responder on the scene gave these quotes to his home town fire department. Now it's immediately "seizers" or "complication from a car crash 2 years ago".

But first local folks reported it appeared to be a heart attack. Even beyond Thomas, does anyone find the massive increase in soccer players collapsing interesting?

 

[dankgesang]

First responder on the scene gave these quotes to his home town fire department. Now it's immediately "seizers" or "complication from a car crash 2 years ago".

But first local folks reported it appeared to be a heart attack. Even beyond Thomas, does anyone find the massive increase in soccer players collapsing interesting?

On Demariyus though where are the quotes to the fire department/local folks? I couldn't turn anything up.

 

[IrishRazor82]

On Demariyus though where are the quotes to the fire department/local folks? I couldn't turn anything up.

It was quotes from the Georgia city fire department from one of the first responders. It was on twitter and I cannot find it, I wish I had liked it so I could quickly reference. I'm not sure how to embed from twitter anyway. The city wasn't one I recognized and I don't recall which so I won't be able to find it anymore.

Maybe it's nothing, maybe the first responders were wrong and the media saying "car crash from 2019", but who knows anymore. The 183 FIFA players collapsing, of which 108 died in 2021 is nuts.

 

[NDBoiler]

Anyone tracking the sudden heart related death of athletes world wide? Up 500% in 2021.

183 FIFA players alone have collapsed with sudden heart issues, 108 of them have died. Former Bronco receive Demaryius Thomas (33 years old) just collapsed and first on the scene are calling it a heart attack, although the big media giants are trying to link it to a 2019 car crash.

Anyone find this interesting at all?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSL1N2SL1NJ

I’d double check your sources on the soccer data, Driskell.

 

[IrishRazor82]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSL1N2SL1NJ

I’d double check your sources on the soccer data, Driskell.

Rueters, lol. Their CEO sits on the board of FDA.

People are still trusting "fact checkers" in 2021?

 

[TorontoGold]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSL1N2SL1NJ

I’d double check your sources on the soccer data, Driskell.

There was a virus going around in 2020 that has shown to have significant long-term side effects on the heart too...can't remember the name.

 

[NDRock]

Anyone tracking the sudden heart related death of athletes world wide? Up 500% in 2021.

183 FIFA players alone have collapsed with sudden heart issues, 108 of them have died. Former Bronco receive Demaryius Thomas (33 years old) just collapsed and first on the scene are calling it a heart attack, although the big media giants are trying to link it to a 2019 car crash.

Anyone find this interesting at all?

If true, that is interesting. I'm sure whoever you vote for will be a big factor in whether you believe it's from getting COVID or getting the vaccine. Any link to the study, would be interested in reading it.

 

[NDBoiler]

Rueters, lol. Their CEO sits on the board of FDA.

People are still trusting "fact checkers" in 2021?

You’re right, trusting random people on social media is a better idea.

On another note, IF the soccer data was true, a good follow up question would be why isn’t similar data being seen in every other high cardio sport? Given the global spread of the virus and usage of vaccines, it would only be logical that you would see similar trends everywhere else.

Or, it’s just some more of the random BS you’ll find on Twitter.

 

[yankeehater]

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/circ.144.suppl_1.10712

Here is a paper on the elevated markers (heart/blood) linked to the Mrna vaccines. A friend of mine just sent me this. He had a heart attack within days of his first Pfizer shot and the markers discussed in this piece were similar to his. He is 57 with no pre existing conditions and is in great physical shape and eats healthy (no alcohol). The doctors literally don't know what to do with him because there are no meds because he does not have cholesterol issues, high blood pressure or blockages.

One thing they don't advertise is you are not supposed to do any strenuous activity within weeks if not months after your shots. My friend is an avid mountain biker and he believes that might have been what led to his situation after the vaccine shot.

 

[TorontoGold]

You’re right, trusting random people on social media is a better idea.

On another note, IF the soccer data was true, a good question would be why isn’t similar data being seen in every other high cardio sport? Given the global spread of the virus and usage of vaccines, it would only be logical that you would see similar trends everywhere else.

Or, it’s just some more of the random BS you pull off Twitter.

If we were to accept the 183 figure, the logic behind many anti-vax stance is that death rates are so low among people under 50 there is no need to take a vaccine. However, 183 is supposed to be the gotcha figure that people should cling to that the vaccine is bad? My head hurts lol.

 

[NDBoiler]

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/circ.144.suppl_1.10712

Here is a paper on the elevated markers (heart/blood) linked to the Mrna vaccines. A friend of mine just sent me this. He had a heart attack within days of his first Pfizer shot and the markers discussed in this piece were similar to his. He is 57 with no pre existing conditions and is in great physical shape and eats healthy (no alcohol). The doctors literally don't know what to do with him because there are no meds because he does not have cholesterol issues, high blood pressure or blockages.

One thing they don't advertise is you are not supposed to do any strenuous activity within weeks if not months after your shots. My friend is an avid mountain biker and he believes that might have been what led to his situation after the vaccine shot.

Why would they not advertise something like that? Don’t you think that would be incredibly risky not to communicate that? I’m very curious, as they have duped virtually the entire world and opened up a massive liability if that is the case.