COVID-19

[yankeehater]

Why would they not advertise something like that? Don’t you think that would be incredibly risky not to communicate that? I’m very curious, as they have duped virtually the entire world and opened up a massive liability if that is the case.

I have read only one piece about heavy exercise in conjunction with the vaccines and that came about after that young teenager collapsed from cardiac arrest while lifting weights here in the US. Have you heard anyone mention not to go out and get your heart too elevated soon after the shot?

 

[NDBoiler]

I have read only one piece about heavy exercise in conjunction with the vaccines and that came about after that young teenager collapsed from cardiac arrest while lifting weights here in the US. Have you heard anyone mention not to go out and get your heart too elevated soon after the shot?

Everything I read from reputable sources says there is no research to support any elevated risk of exercise after the shot. It’s simply up to the individual and how they feel.

 

[N_D_Fighting_Irish]

 

[BrownerandFry]

My first shot was the worst of them all. I did have COVID prior to getting the vaccines though.

My booster gave me a sore arm (less than the others), a pounding headache for about 18 hours, and a slight chill. Still, less than the other two.

this is wild, my worst reaction was second, first was a yawn, and the booster was nothing.

And in the family, it is all over the place.

Maybe we are not clones?
Maybe we're all really different?????

 

[phork]

Anyone tracking the sudden heart related death of athletes world wide? Up 500% in 2021.

183 FIFA players alone have collapsed with sudden heart issues, 108 of them have died. Former Bronco receive Demaryius Thomas (33 years old) just collapsed and first on the scene are calling it a heart attack, although the big media giants are trying to link it to a 2019 car crash.

Anyone find this interesting at all?

Just soccer players eh? Incredible vaccine targetting only one sport. Thomas was having seizures by close accounts...
Also:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/co...llapsing-debunked/VO4MY47HRZ76FXGXQLO572XAFI/

So feel free to cite YOUR legit sources, or just shut your misinformation'd pie hole.

PS: You know what else can trigger heart attacks?

 

[notredomer23]

183 soccer players may have collapsed in the last year. The thing is, that’s the average number that has collapsed per year going back to 2014 to 2019. We’re talking across all types of leagues, age groups etc. Sure, everyone knows the Christian Ericksen case in the summer, but I can think of a few heart related events pre-COVID too like Ahmed Al-Nouri. Saw the study a couple weeks ago so will look to link , but as usual the antivaxxers are grasping at straws.

edit: Also calling them FIFA players is the sure fire sign you’re full of shit. No one outside of an Antivax American would call them FIFA players.

double edit: link to the study: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33361135/

 

[phork]

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/circ.144.suppl_1.10712

Here is a paper on the elevated markers (heart/blood) linked to the Mrna vaccines. A friend of mine just sent me this. He had a heart attack within days of his first Pfizer shot and the markers discussed in this piece were similar to his. He is 57 with no pre existing conditions and is in great physical shape and eats healthy (no alcohol). The doctors literally don't know what to do with him because there are no meds because he does not have cholesterol issues, high blood pressure or blockages.

One thing they don't advertise is you are not supposed to do any strenuous activity within weeks if not months after your shots. My friend is an avid mountain biker and he believes that might have been what led to his situation after the vaccine shot.

Also here is the Expression of Concern for this abstract you posted. Which says the Abstract is hot garbage, but feel free to read yourself.

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIR.0000000000001051

This article expresses concern regarding abstract “Abstract 10712: Mrna COVID Vaccines Dramatically Increase Endothelial Inflammatory Markers and ACS Risk as Measured by the PULS Cardiac Test: a Warning” which originally published November 8, 2021; https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1....suppl_1.10712.

Soon after publication of the above abstract in Circulation, it was brought to the American Heart Association Committee on Scientific Sessions Program’s attention that there are potential errors in the abstract. Specifically, there are several typographical errors, there is no data in the abstract regarding myocardial T-cell infiltration, there are no statistical analyses for significance provided, and the author is not clear that only anecdotal data was used.

We are publishing this Expression of Concern until a suitable correction is published to indicate that the abstract in its current version may not be reliable.

So....

 

[yankeehater]

Also here is the Expression of Concern for this abstract you posted. Which says the Abstract is hot garbage, but feel free to read yourself.

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIR.0000000000001051


So....

Tell that to my friend you idiot!

 

[yankeehater]

I am not saying Covid is not horrible, but to think these shots don't have serious side effects (more than what they are reporting) is pure ignorance. I won't get into my little world, but just a small example is my Uncle was one of the first known deaths from the Moderna shot (not my opinion), but actually reported by UCLA the most reputable hospital by most publications in California. To their credit, Moderna did follow up with my Aunt. She never heard anything after that.

 

[TorontoGold]

I have two friends who told me that after receiving the vaccine they've had increased energy levels and are no longer bald

 

[phork]

Tell that to my friend you idiot!

Feel free to send it to him, directly from the AHA, I am not the idiot. They researched the abstract and said it was suspect.

 

[phork]

I am not saying Covid is not horrible, but to think these shots don't have serious side effects (more than what they are reporting) is pure ignorance. I won't get into my little world, but just a small example is my Uncle was one of the first known deaths from the Moderna shot (not my opinion), but actually reported by UCLA the most reputable hospital by most publications in California. To their credit, Moderna did follow up with my Aunt. She never heard anything after that.

Also can you cite the publication? I'd like to read it.

 

[ulukinatme]

I have two friends who told me that after receiving the vaccine they've had increased energy levels and are no longer bald

Now I know this is a lie. Science has proven that vaccinating your mother's side of the family is the only way to reverse male pattern baldness.

 

[TorontoGold]

Now I know this is a lie. Science has proven that vaccinating your mother's side of the family is the only way to reverse male pattern baldness.

The little clear vial is now generic, speak to your doctor today and no longer worry about the high prices. CVS now performs the vaccination discretly!

 

[phork]

So it's crickets again.. Color me shocked.

 

[Irishize]

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/mo...ses-have-hit-fully-vaccinated-cdc-2021-12-10/

Most reported U.S. Omicron cases have hit the fully vaccinated -CDC

Time will tell

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/mos...dc-2021-12-10/

 

[PerthDomer]

Time will tell

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/mos...dc-2021-12-10/

Fully vaccinated individuals are the majority of Americans and more likely to seek out testing... more of them will test positive for omicron.

 

[yankeehater]

Also can you cite the publication? I'd like to read it.

Who are you expecting to publish the paper? Moderna??? I highly doubt a company would publish a paper publicizing their medication can kill you. The hospital??? They provided their findings and instructed my family how to report into VAERS. They said they do not have the time nor the staff to report adverse events themselves. UCLA is a teaching hospital so if they do not have the time to do the required reports then who does. Maybe that explains why even before Covid less than 10-15% of adverse reactions are ever reported. Lastly, I doubt that if myself or any other family member issued the findings it would be accepted.

 

[yankeehater]

Fully vaccinated individuals are the majority of Americans and more likely to seek out testing... more of them will test positive for omicron.

Based on your information that fully vaccinated people seek out testing more than unvaccinated (never heard that before), then would that lead to the conclusion that the unvaccinated are not being hospitalized with Omnicron since they would be tested upon admittance to a hospital. That would be welcome news for the pandemic.

 

[phork]

Who are you expecting to publish the paper? Moderna??? I highly doubt a company would publish a paper publicizing their medication can kill you. The hospital??? They provided their findings and instructed my family how to report into VAERS. They said they do not have the time nor the staff to report adverse events themselves. UCLA is a teaching hospital so if they do not have the time to do the required reports then who does. Maybe that explains why even before Covid less than 10-15% of adverse reactions are ever reported. Lastly, I doubt that if myself or any other family member issued the findings it would be accepted.

Well you did say this:

but actually reported by UCLA the most reputable hospital by most publications in California.

So where was it reported? Also Doctors are required by law to report deaths. Can you post any information at all? Obit, something? I would assume this happened Jan/Feb 2020.

 

[PerthDomer]

Based on your information that fully vaccinated people seek out testing more than unvaccinated (never heard that before), then would that lead to the conclusion that the unvaccinated are not being hospitalized with Omnicron since they would be tested upon admittance to a hospital. That would be welcome news for the pandemic.

Generally vaccinated people seek out Healthcare more/are more likely to social distance etc. South African data shows 2 shot Pfizer being 60% effective vs. Severe disease w omicron (90% plus for delta). Severe disease also seems milder in those who were previously infected/vaccinated. My guess is the hospital load from omicron is less bad than delta.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Everything I read from reputable sources says there is no research to support any elevated risk of exercise after the shot. It’s simply up to the individual and how they feel.

Brandin Goodwin from the Atlanta Hawks would disagree with you. Had no history of any health issues, got the J and J shot, developed blood clots.

 

[Irish#1]

I previously mentioned a guy that works for me that has had COVID twice now, with getting vax'd between both episodes. When he had his first bout, he said he felt better if he forced himself to get on his treadmill for a bit as it opened his lungs up. That was before he was vax'd.

 

[Irishize]

I’ve heard/read headlines of NFL/NBA/NHL players who are fully vaxxed being forced to sit out b/c they tested positive for COVID. Are these aforementioned leagues still doing mandatory testing for double/triple-vaxxed players who are asymptomatic or do these players present w/ symptoms and then get tested?

 

[Greenore]

I’ve heard/read headlines of NFL/NBA/NHL players who are fully vaxxed being forced to sit out b/c they tested positive for COVID. Are these aforementioned leagues still doing mandatory testing for double/triple-vaxxed players who are asymptomatic or do these players present w/ symptoms and then get tested?

I can only speak to the NHL, Calgary Flames to be exact, but they are mandatory testing. Several players recently tested positive and I think all were asymptomatic. As reported they were all double vaxed (at least),

Cheers and Go Irish!!

https://calgarysun.com/sports/hocke...-covid-19-outbreak-a-warning-to-public-expert

 

[Irishize]

I can only speak to the NHL, Calgary Flames to be exact, but they are mandatory testing. Several players recently tested positive and I think all were asymptomatic. As reported they were all double vaxed (at least),

Cheers and Go Irish!!

Thanks! That’s really mind boggling. They complied and got the vaccinations which is great so why continue to test unless they present w/ symptoms? Surely, North America realizes that there will never be ZERO COVID….it’s endemic, it’s here to stay. Like the Gov of Colorado said (paraphrasing): “The vaccines have been out long enough that anyone who wants one has had ample time/ability to get on. At this point, if they get COVID and become hospitalized it’s their own damn fault. Time to go back to normalcy”

 

[bobbyok1]

Harvard Prestudy on "No Reinfection in Previously Infected"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGNf1IjX6ck

​​​​​​https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.11.15.21265753v1
​​​​​​https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.11.15.21265753v1.full.pdf

 

[TorontoGold]

Harvard Prestudy on "No Reinfection in Previously Infected"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGNf1IjX6ck

​​​​​​https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.11.15.21265753v1
​​​​​​https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.11.15.21265753v1.full.pdf

From the study - 5.19 infections per 10,000 people vs 0.59 infections per 10,000 people for vaxed.

Seems like it doesn't take too kindly to unvaccinated people. An interesting tidbit was that the study found "Further, after vaccination, previously infected HCWs did not contribute any breakthrough infection events among the vaccinated HCWs". Seems like the best course of action is to be vaccinated so that you don't get sick, and those that have been infected are not going to get you sick.

Thanks for the study.

 

[bobbyok1]

From the study - 5.19 infections per 10,000 people vs 0.59 infections per 10,000 people for vaxed.

Seems like it doesn't take too kindly to unvaccinated people. An interesting tidbit was that the study found "Further, after vaccination, previously infected HCWs did not contribute any breakthrough infection events among the vaccinated HCWs". Seems like the best course of action is to be vaccinated so that you don't get sick, and those that have been infected are not going to get you sick.

Thanks for the study.

The point of the study was that NEITHER vaxed or unvaxed people were reinfected. The numbers you pulled from the study were general infection rates of healthcare workers. The follow up numbers shared ZERO persons of both groups (vaxed and unvaxed) were reinfected once having COVID.

While your conclusion is to get vaxed as the safest measures, others would argue its better to keep a healthy immune system, be prepared with the proper therapeutics (or a plan for therapeutics), and if you get infected, you will have natural immunity to follow. This is not the push of the study or video. Check sharing a differing perspective.

Thanks for checking out the study.

 

[PerthDomer]

The point of the study was that NEITHER vaxed or unvaxed people were reinfected. The numbers you pulled from the study were general infection rates of healthcare workers. The follow up numbers shared ZERO persons of both groups (vaxed and unvaxed) were reinfected once having COVID.

While your conclusion is to get vaxed as the safest measures, others would argue its better to keep a healthy immune system, be prepared with the proper therapeutics (or a plan for therapeutics), and if you get infected, you will have natural immunity to follow. This is not the push of the study or video. Check sharing a differing perspective.

Thanks for checking out the study.

It's unpublished and is quite flawed. It's also contradicted by larger population based studies.