COVID-19

[Bishop2b5]

My daughter's school has suspended classes starting Thursday due to an outbreak. Nine kids have tested positive. Not sure whether they're at the elementary, middle or high school, but class dismissed until further notice.

 

[SonofOahu]

Tough to get the rona when she's got her back to you

This can be taken in one of two ways:

The bad way:

The good way:

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

https://my.opcenter.com/share/page/user/14584550U/dashboard

Spreading and a third surge.

 

[Irishize]

Kids may not be recommended for COVID-19 vaccination initially, U.S. CDC says - (Financial Post via NewsPoints Desk)
(Ref: Financial Post)
October 14th, 2020

The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) says COVID-19 vaccines may not be initially recommended for children, as reported in the Financial Post.

The agency noted that so far early clinical trials have only included non-pregnant adults, noting the recommended groups could change in the future as clinical trials expand to recruit more people.

Pfizer has said it will enroll children, who are capable of passing on the virus to high-risk groups, as young as 12 in its late-stage COVID-19 vaccine study, while AstraZeneca has said a sub-group of patients in a large trial will test children between five to 12.

Meanwhile, the CDC also said Wednesday that any coronavirus vaccine would, at least at first, be used under the FDA's emergency use authorization, and that there could be a limited supply before the end of 2020.

In case of limited supply, some groups may be recommended to get a COVID-19 vaccine first, the CDC added.

 

[Rogue219]

Wasn't entirely sure where to put this, but sports ratings have been way down this year for just about everyone. Assuming that Covid is playing some kind of part in this, directly or indirectly, which is weird because I find myself watching more sports now that before.

Here is what is down:

NBA Finals (49 percent)
U.S. Open tennis (45 percent),
U.S. Open golf (42 percent),
Stanley Cup playoffs (61 percent),
Kentucky Derby (43 percent),
college football (30 percent)
NFL (10 percent)

I am watching MLB, NBA and English Premier League. Only watching one NFL team. Hardly any CFB. Waiting for CBB to start.

I have YouTube TV, Netflix and Prime. I never realized the amount of "options" I have but man there is a lot of content.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Wasn't entirely sure where to put this, but sports ratings have been way down this year for just about everyone. Assuming that Covid is playing some kind of part in this, directly or indirectly, which is weird because I find myself watching more sports now that before.

Here is what is down:

NBA Finals (49 percent)
U.S. Open tennis (45 percent),
U.S. Open golf (42 percent),
Stanley Cup playoffs (61 percent),
Kentucky Derby (43 percent),
college football (30 percent)
NFL (10 percent)

I am watching MLB, NBA and English Premier League. Only watching one NFL team. Hardly any CFB. Waiting for CBB to start.

I have YouTube TV, Netflix and Prime. I never realized the amount of "options" I have but man there is a lot of content.

Personally, I cut the cord a while ago. I am exclusively an online content consumer. I wonder if those data points include a person like me?

I have the Disney+/Hulu/ESPN+ package which serves me well for most everything except local CFB and NFL content. I also can get almost any content I want whether its news or ND football via live streams or youtube streams.

 

[NDRock]

Wasn't entirely sure where to put this, but sports ratings have been way down this year for just about everyone. Assuming that Covid is playing some kind of part in this, directly or indirectly, which is weird because I find myself watching more sports now that before.

Here is what is down:

NBA Finals (49 percent)
U.S. Open tennis (45 percent),
U.S. Open golf (42 percent),
Stanley Cup playoffs (61 percent),
Kentucky Derby (43 percent),
college football (30 percent)
NFL (10 percent)

I am watching MLB, NBA and English Premier League. Only watching one NFL team. Hardly any CFB. Waiting for CBB to start.

I have YouTube TV, Netflix and Prime. I never realized the amount of "options" I have but man there is a lot of content.

Yeah, you'd think things would be up with more people working from home (or just home). I've actually been watching some other sports this year. Got into F1 this year and watched every day of the Tour de France. Watch a lot of Premier League (Man City) as well and some college football and a little NFL. NBA looked like Summer League and I couldn't get into it. I haven't watched much MLB for years.

I like the "different" sports as I just enjoy watching the games and don't pay too much attention to all the political/drama of it all. The only team I follow really closely is ND.

 

[Rogue219]

Personally, I cut the cord a while ago. I am exclusively an online content consumer. I wonder if those data points include a person like me?

I don't think it does.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

I don't think it does.

I thought so. Maybe there is some correlation to cord cutters?

 

[GowerND11]

I thought so. Maybe there is some correlation to cord cutters?

The same thing happened when people began doing On Demand, DVR/TiVo, and Apple downloading of shows and episodes. They never were factoring them into ratings.

 

[Irish#1]

France is locking down.

 

[notredomer23]

I thought so. Maybe there is some correlation to cord cutters?

Cord cutter here. Do we think there is going to be a push back on this trend and go back to traditional cable/satellite? I personally hate the delay for live events.

 

[NDRock]

France is locking down.

What’s the latest with the fatality rate? Cases are way up in France (compared to the April spike) but deaths are down (also compared to April). Has the virus mutated?,we better at treating it? more young people getting it? Or some combination of everything?

 

[NorthDakota]

Cord cutter here. Do we think there is going to be a push back on this trend and go back to traditional cable/satellite? I personally hate the delay for live events.

I dont mind the delays. I'm assuming the delays will get shorter and shorter over time

 

[TorontoGold]

What’s the latest with the fatality rate? Cases are way up in France (compared to the April spike) but deaths are down (also compared to April). Has the virus mutated?,we better at treating it? more young people getting it? Or some combination of everything?

I've seen some "iceberg" type theories, where since our ability to detect the virus is a lot better than the early months has lead to us getting a better picture of the actual amount of infection. That coupled with better treatments, has lead to less deaths.

 

[notredomer23]

I've seen some "iceberg" type theories, where since our ability to detect the virus is a lot better than the early months has lead to us getting a better picture of the actual amount of infection. That coupled with better treatments, has lead to less deaths.

This. I don't think the virus has mutated. Couple other points:

1) In February/March, we weren't protecting the vulnerable. The virus had free reign to spread to vulnerable populations. Now, even with states/countries reopened, we know who needs to be protected most and those people in turn likely are being extremely cautious.

2) As you said, our capacity to test is now not just IDing people who have to be hospitalized how it was back in February-April. We're getting anyone that is symptomatic, and even some asymptomatic, which is a lot considering conservatively 75% of cases are asymptomatic.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Cord cutter here. Do we think there is going to be a push back on this trend and go back to traditional cable/satellite? I personally hate the delay for live events.

IDk but I have my doubts. I think broadcast tv will go the way of radio (but not anytime soon), specifically once advertisers stop being able to reach their targeted customers on tv.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

I've seen some "iceberg" type theories, where since our ability to detect the virus is a lot better than the early months has lead to us getting a better picture of the actual amount of infection. That coupled with better treatments, has lead to less deaths.

No way man. There are only more cases becasue we are testing more.

#MAGA

 

[Irish#1]

IMO part of the second wave is because the virus is now getting out to the rural areas more where they were somewhat isolated. The wife and I are rehabbing a home in a small town of about 1,200 in SW Indiana. For the longest time there were only a couple of reported cases. Now there are quite a few. Nobody around there wears a masks when they go into a store.

 

[notredomer23]

IMO part of the second wave is because the virus is now getting out to the rural areas more where they were somewhat isolated. The wife and I are rehabbing a home in a small town of about 1,200 in SW Indiana. For the longest time there were only a couple of reported cases. Now there are quite a few. Nobody around there wears a masks when they go into a store.

https://my.opcenter.com/share/page/user/14584550U/dashboard

Spreading and a third surge.

Think Cacks post here supports that.

With every state, nation, city whatever. If you are not going to do what China did, you have to deal with a surge at some point. Any future surges hopefully on the lighter side. NYC will be a good case study for this now that they are open mostly. Test positivity rate has remained below 1.5% and only certain neighborhoods that weren't hit hard originally are seeing a resurgence.

 

[PerthDomer]

NYC is doing appropriate mitigation and testing. They're showing us all how it should be done at this point. I live in Seattle. It's fall here. We're a big city. Covid has been low and trending down here. It doesnt have to be luke it is in Wisconsin.

 

[NorthDakota]

I was under the impression that the goal was to slow the spread and avoid everyone getting sick at once

 

[Legacy]

We've reached 218,000+ deaths from Covid. (Another site reports 222k deaths.) That's the same number of combat deaths of Americans on both sides in four plus years of the Civil War. We long ago passed the total.of American combat deaths in all the years of WW1, Vietnam and the Korean War about 134,000+. Only the. four years of World War II had more combat deaths at 291,00+ than we've had in nine months of Covid.

The total combat deaths in the Revolutionary War, Iraq War, War of 1812, War in Afganistan and Mexican - American War is about 16k - the same number of deaths in either California (16.8k), Texas (17.4k), Florida (15.7k) or New Jersey (16.3k). New York has had 33k Covid deaths.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_casualties_of_war

 

[Irish YJ]

Not that we need to give our Dems any ideas, but....

Off with their heads.

Police raid Minister of Health and other officials homes in rona inquiry.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54535358

 

[Legacy]

Rural America is getting slammed.

Rural Infection Rate Surpasses Metro-America’s All-Time High
For the past two months, rural America has been adding new Covid-19 cases at a faster rate than metropolitan counties. Now rural America has surpassed the infection rate metro counties set at the height of this summer’s coronavirus surge.


https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/VZI68/4/

The Upper Midwest continued to be the hardest hit region in the nation, with states such as North and South Dakota, Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Iowa having all but a few of counties (both urban and rural) on the red-zone list.

Sixty-one percent of the nation’s rural counties are on the red-zone list (1,198 of 1,976 counties). In metropolitan America, about 47% of counties are on the red-zone list (538 of 1,115).

https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/vXRvZ/6/

As of four days ago, North Dakota has twenty ICU beds available with ten of them in Fargo. Emergencies like heart attacks, strokes, bleeds, DKA, drug ODs, and trauma, etc will need beds. Rural hospitals rely on being able to transfer patients who need specialized care to tertiary hospitals as though in Fargo. Providers and hospitals will be faced with the same tough decisions on admissions that other states have had to make. More than 60 percent of the state's deaths have come in nursing homes and other long-term care facilities, with the 80-plus age group accounting for 236 of the state's fatalities. While beds may be available, ND has had a nursing shortage so staffing those beds may be problematic especially in rural areas. Rural hospitals are more likely to not have the supplies they need, too, as well as having costs relating to preparing for the Covid surge and loss of income due to loss of elective procedures.

 

[yankeehater]

I really appreciate all of the well wishes, guys! It's strange. I feel fine during the day. At night though, my fever shoots up to over 101.2 from 8pm to midnight. Then it breaks quickly and I can't get to sleep. Took NyQuil twice last night and that finally did it.

Just wanted to check in to see how you are doing. I hope the virus has run its course and you are back to 100%.

 

[Irishize]

Just wanted to check in to see how you are doing. I hope the virus has run its course and you are back to 100%.

Same here. How you doing Turtle?

 

[Sea Turtle]

Thanks for the concern, guys. I have been fever free for two days now. I still can't smell anything but hopefully that comes back soon enough. On Saturday, I go into work to give them my work release but will be on vacation until the 30th. That extra week will come in handy.

 

[Old Man Mike]

God Bless You.

 

[NorthDakota]

Rural America is getting slammed.

Rural Infection Rate Surpasses Metro-America’s All-Time High
For the past two months, rural America has been adding new Covid-19 cases at a faster rate than metropolitan counties. Now rural America has surpassed the infection rate metro counties set at the height of this summer’s coronavirus surge.


https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/VZI68/4/

The Upper Midwest continued to be the hardest hit region in the nation, with states such as North and South Dakota, Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Iowa having all but a few of counties (both urban and rural) on the red-zone list.

Sixty-one percent of the nation’s rural counties are on the red-zone list (1,198 of 1,976 counties). In metropolitan America, about 47% of counties are on the red-zone list (538 of 1,115).

https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/vXRvZ/6/

As of four days ago, North Dakota has twenty ICU beds available with ten of them in Fargo. Emergencies like heart attacks, strokes, bleeds, DKA, drug ODs, and trauma, etc will need beds. Rural hospitals rely on being able to transfer patients who need specialized care to tertiary hospitals as though in Fargo. Providers and hospitals will be faced with the same tough decisions on admissions that other states have had to make. More than 60 percent of the state's deaths have come in nursing homes and other long-term care facilities, with the 80-plus age group accounting for 236 of the state's fatalities. While beds may be available, ND has had a nursing shortage so staffing those beds may be problematic especially in rural areas. Rural hospitals are more likely to not have the supplies they need, too, as well as having costs relating to preparing for the Covid surge and loss of income due to loss of elective procedures.

Boots on the ground aren't worried from what doctors are posting online. The bed shortage apparently has more to do with surgeries that got pushed back. They seem to think that we are doing fine but maybe they are wrong or lying. They seemed to suggest that surgeries would be rescheduled if it gets worse but overall seemed pretty nonchalant about it. If those folks aren't at DEFCON 2 then I don't see a reason to worry.

Always cracks me up when national media decides to make a story about us and here it is rarely something we worry about. See Dakota Access Pipeline and now this virus stuff.

The only thing that has been a bit of a story here is some nursing homes have been hit and obviously those are the last places you want to have impacted (particularly ones in "remote" areas).