COVID-19

[Irish YJ]

Hydroxychloroquine lowers COVID-19 death rate, Henry Ford Health study finds
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/n...oquine-lowers-covid-19-death-rate/5365090002/



Of course, CNN's headline uses a "may", and of course throws "doubt" in lol

"Study finds hydroxychloroquine may have boosted survival, but other researchers have doubts"


And in other news, got a good chuckle out of this.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Antique Sugar setting the standard for safety. Makes me miss downtown so much I have to go there. I ❤ them <br> Downtown Phoenix<br>801 N. 2nd St.<br>Suite 104 Phoenix, Arizona <a href="https://t.co/ZeTno5lhIm">pic.twitter.com/ZeTno5lhIm</a></p>— Political Pukeko (@Pahtrisha) <a href="https://twitter.com/Pahtrisha/status/1278503579699916800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[BobbyMac]

Maricopa (Phoenix) is about 65% of the total. 20ish straight days of protests there might have a little to do with it too, no?

Nooooooooooo.

Young kids being kids have their Bernie stickers on their 3 Series BMW's their parents bought them which they drive to the daily marches with 50-100K others (where they wear their bandana's) followed by a quick shower and down to the clubs in Tempe/Old Town sans masks to meet their hook up from Tinder. Where's the condemnation and connection to that? It was conveniently placed on Big Mouth Trump and his supporters when he came to town for a day.

Meanwhile, in North Scottsdale where all of the "evil" conservatives live, it's 95% masks in public for months, 99% in the past week.

But I'm sure some leftist will point out the Scottsdale city councilman who pulled a publicity stunt at a "rally" attended by 15 people and some news cameras and said "I can't breathe" before taking it off and going into his protest speech. Dude's an azz and I would have gladly gone to jail for knocking his teeth out right on camera. F**k Guy Phillips, he'll get his juco educated ass canceled by a bunch of educated Republicans soon enough.

 

[Irish YJ]

Nooooooooooo.

Young kids being kids have their Bernie stickers on their 3 Series BMW's their parents bought them which they drive to the daily marches with 50-100K others (where they wear their bandana's) followed by a quick shower and down to the clubs in Tempe/Old Town sans masks to meet their hook up from Tinder. Where's the condemnation and connection to that? It was conveniently placed on Big Mouth Trump and his supporters when he came to town for a day.

Meanwhile, in North Scottsdale where all of the "evil" conservatives live, it's 95% masks in public for months, 99% in the past week.

But I'm sure some leftist will point out the Scottsdale city councilman who pulled a publicity stunt at a "rally" attended by 15 people and some news cameras and said "I can't breathe" before taking it off and going into his protest speech. Dude's an azz and I would have gladly gone to jail for knocking his teeth out right on camera. F**k Guy Phillips, he'll get his juco educated ass canceled by a bunch of educated Republicans soon enough.

I love evil Scottsdale. My aunt lived out there for many years until her husband passed, as well as SSW. I spent a ton of time in East Mesa on assignment and spent a lot of weekends in Timpe. Had a nice furnished apartment and a heathy per diem. Good times. Hot chicks, cheap booze. Oh the young days.

 

[Irishize]

I have no problem wearing a mask. In fact, it seems second nature now to have one in my pocket & hanging from my rear view mirror in my vehicle. It’s a minor inconvenience yet a lot of folks can’t understand why every American doesn’t follow suit. I’m not saying there is only one reason for all non-mask wearers but the conversation has to start with the mixed messages from the media & our gov’t leaders. This video of Mayor Garcetti reminding folks they can’t congregate while hundreds are outside the same building protesting sums it up.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"One of the most sensitive aspects of public health messaging is... lack of hypocrisy"<br><br>Citing marijuana & HIV, <a href="https://twitter.com/drdrew?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@drdrew</a> tells <a href="https://twitter.com/Elex_Michaelson?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Elex_Michaelson</a> the public stops listening once they doubt the risks.<br><br>This, after <a href="https://twitter.com/ericgarcetti?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ericgarcetti</a> prohibited gatherings, but allowed protests @ City Hall. <a href="https://t.co/jNFVLLohlK">pic.twitter.com/jNFVLLohlK</a></p>— The Issue Is (@TheIssueIsShow) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheIssueIsShow/status/1279264983944052736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Circa]

Please take a few minutes and at least listen... On your drive to work, on the drive home, at work or while watching ND. It's not my opinion... It seems to be facts that have been pushed aside.


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Last but not least. Watch and LISTEN!
https://youtu.be/65XVhF56cUQ

I worked on the GOOGLE site 2 years ago. When they became operational we found ourselves in a political pandemic.

It's not funny, but It's funny that Google's newest sight is right in the middle of this.

https://goo.gl/maps/mMiFdKLGVwYWJ4q97
GOOGLE's new plant Is right next to NASA Ames Building N-249A

Finally found. IT!
https://goo.gl/maps/bCUrqBu5XfmCg8DE6

Ask yourself, why does google need NASA to buy their stock.....

 

[TorontoGold]

Please take a few minutes and at least listen... On your drive to work, on the drive home, at work or while watching ND. It's not my opinion... It seems to be facts that have been pushed aside.


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<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/OQ1MsGDMNU8" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Last but not least. Watch and LISTEN!
https://youtu.be/65XVhF56cUQ

I worked on the GOOGLE site 2 years ago. When they became operational we found ourselves in a political pandemic.

It's not funny, but It's funny that Google's newest sight is right in the middle of this.

https://goo.gl/maps/mMiFdKLGVwYWJ4q97
GOOGLE's new plant Is right next to NASA Ames Building N-249A

Finally found. IT!
https://goo.gl/maps/bCUrqBu5XfmCg8DE6

Ask yourself, why does google need NASA to buy their stock.....

A few Q's

1) Why do surgeons wear masks for hours on end? These are some of the brightest people around, you'd think they would know better if masks were so dangerous.

2) How trustworthy is a guy who is routinely brought up in front of various medical boards, a reputable source? A guy who is an astute anti-vaxxer, and who claims that intravenous hydrogen peroxide is a treatment for cancer?

 

[Circa]

A few Q's

1) Why do surgeons wear masks for hours on end? These are some of the brightest people around, you'd think they would know better if masks were so dangerous.

2) How trustworthy is a guy who is routinely brought up in front of various medical boards, a reputable source? A guy who is an astute anti-vaxxer, and who claims that intravenous hydrogen peroxide is a treatment for cancer?

Question #1). Surgeons wear masks so they don't excrete any fluids into the surgical area.
If they are afraid of receiving anything from the patient they gear up further and use a full face shield.
They wear them for short periods of time and If they are In a longer surgery situation they have their masks changed by nurses trained on the ways to properly do the process.
The fact that most people don't know how to wipe their own ass correctly and just scratch all day should be evidence enough that mask are just making sure germs stay real close to the area of the body most susceptible to contagious disease.

Q #2). This one Is tricky. You'll call me conspiratorial again, (screw It).... he has a track record with using an unorthodox way of treating people and he is a threat on big Pharma. I could send you multiple case studies on his successful ways of treating Cancer, Heart disease, tumor's, high blood pressure..... you name the ailment and the only people doxxing are those with money in the game.


Thanks. It's all on the internet.

 

[Circa]

Now we could all argue the science behind the machine. But, You can't argue the fact that we HUMANs are not evolved enough to breathe Carbon Dioxide all day everyday.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">THE TOXICITYOF THE FACE MASKS, LIVE!! The levels of CO2 are off the charts, measured by the host of the show.<br><br>You can see this video and others of this sort on our youtube channell: <a href="https://t.co/jztgjgX7Zl">https://t.co/jztgjgX7Zl</a><br>Retweet to let everyone know of this danger <a href="https://t.co/hYy0Q6IAlr">pic.twitter.com/hYy0Q6IAlr</a></p>— Alex Jungle (@AlexJungle2) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlexJungle2/status/1279859084284637185?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[TorontoGold]

Question #1). Surgeons wear masks so they don't excrete any fluids into the surgical area.
If they are afraid of receiving anything from the patient they gear up further and use a full face shield.
They wear them for short periods of time and If they are In a longer surgery situation they have their masks changed by nurses trained on the ways to properly do the process.
The fact that most people don't know how to wipe their own ass correctly and just scratch all day should be evidence enough that mask are just making sure germs stay real close to the area of the body most susceptible to contagious disease.

Q #2). This one Is tricky. You'll call me conspiratorial again, (screw It).... he has a track record with using an unorthodox way of treating people and he is a threat on big Pharma. I could send you multiple case studies on his successful ways of treating Cancer, Heart disease, tumor's, high blood pressure..... you name the ailment and the only people doxxing are those with money in the game.


Thanks. It's all on the internet.

Right, so wearing a mask helps to prevent large droplets out of a persons mouth, yes? So we know that the largest group of virus is contained in the large droplets......so would this not be an effective way of stopping the spread?

To the point about changing masks, I'm not sure what the situation is like where you are but the garbage cans are always full of masks up here. I really don't think someone is going to wear a mask for more than 30 min (or however long their meeting or shopping trip will take).

If he was truly a successful person and that his methods were successful wouldn't they make it into best practices for medicine? Wouldn't he be so busy curing cancer that he wouldn't have to make Youtube videos about being censored?

 

[Circa]

Right, so wearing a mask helps to prevent large droplets out of a persons mouth, yes? So we know that the largest group of virus is contained in the large droplets......so would this not be an effective way of stopping the spread?

To the point about changing masks, I'm not sure what the situation is like where you are but the garbage cans are always full of masks up here. I really don't think someone is going to wear a mask for more than 30 min (or however long their meeting or shopping trip will take).

If he was truly a successful person and that his methods were successful wouldn't they make it into best practices for medicine? Wouldn't he be so busy curing cancer that he wouldn't have to make Youtube videos about being censored?

Hey buddy,.... Let's not digress here. What your askin Is kinda simple in and of itself.

It's like saying you shouldn't eat because eating causes you to lose time. LOL. My analogy might be off... but, It's worth looking into.

 

[JurDocDuLac]

Hey buddy,.... Let's not digress here. What your askin Is kinda simple in and of itself.

LMAO!
That´s ALL you ever do Circa! Every one of your posts is an ott digression or troll.

 

[Circa]

LMAO!
That´s ALL you ever do Circa! Every one of your posts is an oto digression or troll.

I'm sorry I have come across in that way. I know i'm not a conformist. If that means to you or anyone else that I don't stay on point in your opinions. I won't apologize.
As far as I was told , I still live in a free society and I am allowed to have my opinion heard. (as long as It doesn't hurt or interfere with others lives).
We're not burning books/the Internet yet...


Edit: I want to be wrong and have the information given to me like I'm a 6 year old. That Is not what we are being given. We are being treated like a 6 year old and told what to do with no scientific value. But I guess Evergreen University in 2016 ruined Science and the liberal arts.

Not sure what you mean by Troll at 36 posts in....

 

[Circa]

Off point again... BUT!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Truth bomb<br>“He told us we would have 400 hospitalizations per day—We have barely reached 200—through the course of this ordeal you’ve put us through. Less than 200 cases— across 8 hospitals. Can you people do math?”<br>For more videos like this one: <a href="https://t.co/SHdnLMTFjT">https://t.co/SHdnLMTFjT</a><br>Subscribe <a href="https://t.co/72GEzq8dDQ">pic.twitter.com/72GEzq8dDQ</a></p>— Alex Jungle (@AlexJungle2) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlexJungle2/status/1278779901231935488?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[JurDocDuLac]

I remember a while back in regular football discussions Circa, you posted a number of substantive, well reasoned, coherently written and interesting posts that were on topic and added real value.

Not sure what you mean by Troll…

Wikipedia definition is "…digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community…"

And in this thread, compared with some of the real value added by a number of posters here (not me), I believe a lot of your posts in this thread are "digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages."

And maybe this is a troll, too, with that definition….

…at 36 posts in....

- Didn´t you just say:

As far as I was told , I still live in a free society and I am allowed to have my opinion heard. .

Bless your heart Circa.

 

[Circa]

I remember a while back in regular football discussions Circa, you posted a number of substantive, well reasoned, coherently written and interesting posts that were on topic and added real value.



Wikipedia definition is "…digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community…"

And in this thread, compared with some of the real value added by a number of posters here (not me), I believe a lot of your posts in this thread are "digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages."

And maybe this is a troll, too, with that definition….





- Didn´t you just say:



Bless your heart Circa.

Ok, ya got me and I'm going to be honest and straight up. I don't want to win. I want to Know.

I used the word 'Digress' and I have used It in the past many times. I learned the word as
"leave the main subject temporarily in speech or writing'

You can be right. I'm not here to argue semantics.

 

[Circa]

I'm almost at a point of understanding that arguments are trying to be had for frivolous reasons.

I'll keep on keeping on for my family and friends.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Most of our media is a marriage between the incapable and the incompetent. I'm never gonna win a Nobel prize, but there are some real dumbasses in sports media.

I listen to a lot of sports radio and a lot of these guys, especially in college sports media, are pushing for spring football being the "safe idea." Effin stupid.

 

[Circa]

Most of our media is a marriage between the incapable and the incompetent. I'm never gonna win a Nobel prize, but there are some real dumbasses in sports media.

I listen to a lot of sports radio and a lot of these guys, especially in college sports media, are pushing for spring football being the "safe idea." Effin stupid.

The longer the establishment holds out.... The more OPEC dollars are relevant.

Senseless.

 

[ACamp1900]

Remember, ‘just a couple weeks to flatten the curve...’??? ... longest two weeks in human history.

 

[NorthDakota]

Remember, ‘just a couple weeks to flatten the curve...’??? ... longest two weeks in human history.

We are on day 106 or some nonsense lmao

 

[phork]

Remember, ‘just a couple weeks to flatten the curve...’??? ... longest two weeks in human history.

Yah well had full shut downs and masks occurred in February, we'd probably be through this shit show.
Luckily I live in Canada where we had flattened it! Good luck to ya though.

 

[TorontoGold]

Yah well had full shut downs and masks occurred in February, we'd probably be through this shit show.
Luckily I live in Canada where we had flattened it! Good luck to ya though.

The Quebec numbers are so puzzling, it seems like a huge portion of those active cases are just sitting there for weeks.

 

[Circa]

Remember, ‘just a couple weeks to flatten the curve...’??? ... longest two weeks in human history.

The Death Rate has gone down. Thats great in my opinion. Now If everyone that dies from natural causes could be eliminated, Maybe.... we could stop the madness.

 

[Sea Turtle]

Let the young and healthy live their lives. Keep the elderly and immune compromised home if you want to protect them.

 

[TorontoGold]

Let the young and healthy live their lives. Keep the elderly and immune compromised home if you want to protect them.

If you let the virus circulate unchecked, how do you keep the elderly who have to work protected? Or the immunocompromised?

 

[phork]

The Death Rate has gone down. Thats great in my opinion. Now If everyone that dies from natural causes could be eliminated, Maybe.... we could stop the madness.

Just wait until this recent uptick in cases comes home to roost. The US is almost back to 1K deaths per day.

 

[notredomer23]

Just wait until this recent uptick in cases comes home to roost. The US is almost back to 1K deaths per day.

US had a high day yesterday around 1K, but that’s just cuz of the holiday lag. Our 7 day average is still around 550

 

[Irish#1]

Q #2). This one Is tricky. You'll call me conspiratorial again, (screw It).... he has a track record with using an unorthodox way of treating people and he is a threat on big Pharma. I could send you multiple case studies on his successful ways of treating Cancer, Heart disease, tumor's, high blood pressure..... you name the ailment and the only people doxxing are those with money in the game.

Thanks. It's all on the internet.

Do the math. He's like throwing a pebble in the ocean He's not a threat to big pharma. But I'd like to know why you think he's right and the others trying to find cures for disease and illness are wrong.

I'm sorry I have come across in that way. I know i'm not a conformist. If that means to you or anyone else that I don't stay on point in your opinions. I won't apologize.
As far as I was told , I still live in a free society and I am allowed to have my opinion heard. (as long as It doesn't hurt or interfere with others lives).

We are being treated like a 6 year old and told what to do with no scientific value. But I guess Evergreen University in 2016 ruined Science and the liberal arts.[/I]

You may feel like you're being treated like a 6 year old, but I don't. What makes you feel that way?

Off point again... BUT!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Truth bomb<br>“He told us we would have 400 hospitalizations per day—We have barely reached 200—through the course of this ordeal you’ve put us through. Less than 200 cases— across 8 hospitals. Can you people do math?”<br>For more videos like this one: <a href="https://t.co/SHdnLMTFjT">https://t.co/SHdnLMTFjT</a><br>Subscribe <a href="https://t.co/72GEzq8dDQ">pic.twitter.com/72GEzq8dDQ</a></p>— Alex Jungle (@AlexJungle2) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlexJungle2/status/1278779901231935488?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

And the the lower numbers could be a direct result of most people taking this seriously right from the start, thus not overloading hosspitals.

Ok, ya got me and I'm going to be honest and straight up. I don't want to win. I want to Know.

Yet you conveniently disregard as big brother any facts or information that doesn't fit your beliefs.

Tell me, who makes up this select group that is trying to rule us?

 

[Legacy]

Some tough decisions by physicians ahead for those states whose hospitals are getting overwhelmed. You cannot ask ER personnel there to perform ICU care there. CPR in the field? Elder living facilities? Patients who do not need to be intubated yet but are verging? Patients who are normally admitted but would have no bed or take a bed away from someone who comes in sicker.

 

[ACamp1900]

My sister in law and nephews in Baltimore are confirmed now,... all doing well enough thus far.