COVID-19

[Irish YJ]

Very funny, I needed a good laugh today.

That movie should have been on a top 10 list in the other thread.
I'm think I'm gonna play some Huey Lewis and Genesis this evening.

 

[ACamp1900]

Gonorrhea doesn't usually cause a fever. You be you bro and I'm not judging.

All the STIs,...


Honestly tho,... we prob shouldn’t joke about something that’s so personal to some members here,... sorry a YJ,...

 

[IrishLax]

Here is another timeline:

January 11: Chinese state media report the first known death from the Wuhan virus.
January 15: Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) holds a vote to send articles of impeachment to the Senate. Pelosi and House Democrats celebrate the “solemn” occasion with a signing ceremony, using commemorative pens while a 35-year-old man returned to the US from Wuhon, China after visiting his family.
January 19: First case of the coronavirus in the US is confirmed as the 35-year old man who returned from China on Jan 15 is admitted to an urgent care clinic in Snohomish County, Washington.
January 23: The House impeachment managers make their opening arguments for removing President Trump.
January 23: China closes off the city of Wuhan completely to slow the spread of coronavirus to the rest of China.
January 30: Senators begin asking two days of questions of both sides in the president’s impeachment trial.
January 30: The WHO declares a global health emergency as coronavirus continues to spread.
January 31: The Senate holds a vote on whether to allow further witnesses and documents in the impeachment trial.
January 31: President Trump declares a national health emergency and imposes a ban on travel to and from China. Former Vice President Joe Biden calls Trump’s decision “hysterical xenophobia … and fear-mongering.”
February 2: The first death from coronavirus outside China is reported in the Philippines.
February 3: House impeachment managers begin closing arguments, calling Trump a threat to national security.
February 4: President Trump talks about coronavirus in his State of the Union address; Pelosi rips up every page.
February 5: The Senate votes to acquit President Trump on both articles of impeachment, 52-48 and 53-47.
February 5: House Democrats finally take up coronavirus in the House Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on Asia.

This is well played.

 

[Irish YJ]

All the STIs,...


Honestly tho,... we prob shouldn’t joke about something that’s so personal to some members here,... sorry a YJ,...

No problems with the Gonorrhea side of things, but I was relieved when I found out warts weren't a covid thingy...

 

[Irishize]

Planned parenthood has a big ole fund raising and "call your senator and gov" thingy going on.

Wait...I thought only 3% of what they do is abortions?

 

[Irishize]

CDC’s Worst-Case Coronavirus Model: 214 Million Infected, 1.7 Million Dead (March 13th)

Not only does DoD and the Joint Chiefs expect that this could last until July, have restricted travel and been testing servicemen but they are preparing for another wave of COVID 19. The military may be guided not only by the CDC, Infectious Disease experts as at Johns Hopkins, but they have their own Infectious Disease arm and a branch specific for biological warfare which models pandemics. Speaking at a Pentagon briefing Thursday, Nelson Michael, the director for infectious disease research at Walter Reed Army Institute of Research, said that efforts to develop vaccines and an effective treatment plan might not be quick enough to wipe out the virus by winter. The Pentagon upped its Health Protection Condition to level Charlie on Monday, meaning that that the risk is substantial and there has been sustained community transmission. The Pentagon has also executed social distancing measures in recent weeks to limit in-person interaction.

So b/c of the “worst case scenario” America is going to be the first nation to ever collapse their own economy b/c of what might happen? In other words, they are justifying more death and destitution of numbers fare higher than what they project being infected w/ Tom Hanks Disease b/c of a “worst case scenario”? In the words of Rickey Bobby....”that’s dumb”. Maybe we will soon truly have a valid reason for vast private ownership of AR-15s b/c if we collapse this economy on purpose....it’ll be a free-for-all.

 

[loomis41973]

I've had my fill of crybaby Cuomo.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...bottling-hand-sanitizer-not-manufacturing-it/

 

[Circa]

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...bottling-hand-sanitizer-not-manufacturing-it/

I feel some of these people aren't into fake news. It's Fear news these days and social media has the most influence.
If anything comes from this scare, we need to really take a hard look at the news that Is reported, not only to those that can't differentiate, good and evil.
We just need the facts.
Not Scare Tactics.

 

[Irish YJ]

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...bottling-hand-sanitizer-not-manufacturing-it/

This is hilarious. Slave labor pumping to repackage....
I'd love to know the source... Perhaps Fredo has a connect in China.

 

[Irish YJ]

Cack checked in. He and the fam are doing well. Wife's work is shut down, and they are homeschooling the little one. All is good though.

 

[BGIF]

I received this from a relative

I received this from a relative

• The reports are that the truckers are getting supplies to the stores.
• People are stocking the shelves all night and letting old people shop first.
• Carnival Cruise line told Trump “We can match those big Navy Hospital ships with some fully staffed cruise ships”
• GM said hold our cars and watch this; we can make those ventilators where we were making cars starting next week.
• Women and children are making homemade masks and handing out snacks to truckers.
• Restaurants and schools said, We’ve got kitchens and staff; we can feed kids.”
• Churches are holding on-line services and taking care of their members and community.
• NBA basketball players said, “Hold our basketballs while we write checks to pay the arena staff.”
• Construction companies said, “Here are some masks for the medical staff and doctors”.
• Breweries are making sanitizer out of the left-over ingredients.
• We thought we couldn’t live without Baseball, NASCAR, NBA or going to the beach, restaurants or a bar. Instead, we’re trying to keep those businesses open by ordering take-out.

You’ve got two Democrat Governors getting told “We will make it happen” by a Republican President who has fought with them for three and half years. While the media keeps repeating itself, “We are a nation divided.”

What communist China didn't count on was America saying "Hey, sit back and watch this."

I think a Japanese Admiral in the middle of the Pacific said it best in 1941, "I think we have awakened a sleeping giant."

Give us a few more weeks (maybe months) and we will be doing much better! And stop listening to the hysterical media!!

Sharing this from another FB friend. We have wonderful country and an amazing God.

I know we will be ok

#unitedwestand

 

[Legacy]

A Conversation with Dr. Fauci, June 4, 2019, returning to Regis H.S., NYC.
- his years at Regis ('58), his experiences with different Presidents, HIV/AIDS in the '80s, measles/anti-vax (begins about 14:00), what he "worries about when I'm awake" (begins about 29:00 min) and more

 

[Irish#1]

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...bottling-hand-sanitizer-not-manufacturing-it/

That's so sad, it's funny. I can visualize all of these prisoners lined up pumping the bottle as fast as they can.

 

[Irish#1]

 

[Irish2155]

Chrysler must be close to flipping the switch back on again. I just received heads up that their manufacturer of the Dodge Ram engine in Columbus, IN will have in the ball park of 100 job openings very soon.

Anyone looking for a good job in Southern IN? Hit me up, I will have plenty.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Loaded headline on Yahoo front page

"Do people who survive become immune to virus?"

Who the hell decided to word it that way? Talk about stoking fear

 

[SouthSideChiDomer]

So b/c of the “worst case scenario” America is going to be the first nation to ever collapse their own economy b/c of what might happen? In other words, they are justifying more death and destitution of numbers fare higher than what they project being infected w/ Tom Hanks Disease b/c of a “worst case scenario”? In the words of Rickey Bobby....”that’s dumb”. Maybe we will soon truly have a valid reason for vast private ownership of AR-15s b/c if we collapse this economy on purpose....it’ll be a free-for-all.

Good to see we've gotten to the "I'm going to murder people" phase of the cult. The most hilarious type of projection might be hysteria.

 

[Irish YJ]

Loaded headline on Yahoo front page

"Do people who survive become immune to virus?"

Who the hell decided to word it that way? Talk about stoking fear

It's all over the place. Turn on MSNBC. It's literally non-stop fear mongering. We are all doomed!

• The reports are that the truckers are getting supplies to the stores.
• People are stocking the shelves all night and letting old people shop first.
• Carnival Cruise line told Trump “We can match those big Navy Hospital ships with some fully staffed cruise ships”
• GM said hold our cars and watch this; we can make those ventilators where we were making cars starting next week.
• Women and children are making homemade masks and handing out snacks to truckers.
• Restaurants and schools said, We’ve got kitchens and staff; we can feed kids.”
• Churches are holding on-line services and taking care of their members and community.
• NBA basketball players said, “Hold our basketballs while we write checks to pay the arena staff.”
• Construction companies said, “Here are some masks for the medical staff and doctors”.
• Breweries are making sanitizer out of the left-over ingredients.
• We thought we couldn’t live without Baseball, NASCAR, NBA or going to the beach, restaurants or a bar. Instead, we’re trying to keep those businesses open by ordering take-out.

You’ve got two Democrat Governors getting told “We will make it happen” by a Republican President who has fought with them for three and half years. While the media keeps repeating itself, “We are a nation divided.”

What communist China didn't count on was America saying "Hey, sit back and watch this."

I think a Japanese Admiral in the middle of the Pacific said it best in 1941, "I think we have awakened a sleeping giant."

Give us a few more weeks (maybe months) and we will be doing much better! And stop listening to the hysterical media!!

Sharing this from another FB friend. We have wonderful country and an amazing God.

I know we will be ok

#unitedwestand

There are always lessons to learn in even the worst situations.

I just hope we're still capable of learning.

 

[Irish YJ]

Pelosi on MSBC giving a presser basically taking credit for the new bill.... Giving shout outs to all her peeps like it's the Oscars. Divisive 101

 

[IrishLax]

I received this statement from a close friend who knows this MD researcher. The researcher is the head of the infectious disease department at the U of M, one of the country's leading research labs on these matters. In my opinion, his opinions are worth passing along.



Dear friends,

In these unprecedented and eerie times I felt the need to send an email with my thoughts and recommendations. Doing so has helped me organize my thoughts and outline a plan forward for myself and my family. Feel free to forward this email to others, or ignore it if you must (I prefer that you don’t do the latter).



To remind folks, I am an infectious diseases specialist and my entire career has been spent in infection prevention. A good chunk of time has been spent on pandemic preparation and response.



So here it goes. Some take home messages and recommendations:

1) This is the real deal. A bona fide serious pandemic. The media is not overreacting.

2) Anthony (Tony) Fauci speaks the truth and has tons of experience – trust his opinions and recommendations

3) This is an unprecedented pandemic in our lifetimes – H1N1 in 2009 was a pandemic but illness was much milder and we had a vaccine and proven treatments and it was somewhat of a known entity being an influenza variant.

4) Practice social distancing – avoid all public places and interactions with others outside of your household except for things like getting food and pharmacy visits (and let me know if you find a good toilet paper source J). This is especially important for older adults and those with serious underlying illnesses – and for those living with or having contact with these high risk people.

5) Walking or running and walking your dog outside is fine – unless your region or area has specific restrictions that don’t allow this. But keep your distance from others except your family/household members

6) Your kids and family members should all practice social distancing. My kids are not seeing friends or socializing outside the house.

7) Remember, if younger people (like your kids) get infected, they will likely become mildly ill or be asymptomatic (although they also can get really sick) – but even if mildly ill or asymptomatic, they can pass the virus on easily to household members and high risk people like older adults (ex grandparents) and people with severe underlying diseases (like those with lung disease and heart disease and immuno-compromised individuals). In high risk people, infection often results in severe illness or death.

8) I anticipate this extreme level of response/social distancing to last likely at least 4-12 more weeks, but I really don’t know – it’s just a guess. The actual outbreak and responses to the outbreak will last much longer, but this extreme phase of containment effort and social distancing will, in my estimation, last a few months.

9) As my fellow ID colleague and close friend John Engemann said, “You will be lucky in a few months if you don’t know someone who dies from COVID-19.”

10) So be a good citizen, practice social distancing, wash your hands a lot (alcohol sanitizer is a good alternative) and have your family do the same. And try to not to drive your family members crazy (or let them drive you crazy) - the house starts to feel small really quickly : )

So be safe, stay home and be a good citizen and spend tons of quality time with your family : )


End of his e-mail.

It is my belief that the virtual lockdown recommendations will last until we get a good test kit well distributed, and a vaccine.

Good post, Mike. On the topic of H1N1 being mild, it had a hospitalization rate of less than half a percent. COVID-19 is conservatively 20%ish right now, with some places tracking near 30%. That's the major issue... many people get really sick, and the mortality rate only stays low as long as you can provide adequate treatment to everyone who needs it.

 

[IrishLax]

Pelosi on MSBC giving a presser basically taking credit for the new bill.... Giving shout outs to all her peeps like it's the Oscars. Divisive 101

She's truly the worst.

 

[Irish YJ]

She's truly the worst.

"we need unlimited ventilators"... wut...


I actually thought she might get up to the podium and try to be a bit more partnering and present some optimism. Nope. Totally went the other way.

 

[Irish YJ]

Dyson making 15000 ventilators in only a couple weeks.

https://www.ft.com/content/4cc667f2-6ee2-11ea-89df-41bea055720b

If one could ever love a household appliance, my two Dyson vacs would get V-day cards.. Best appliance ever. Very cool they are jumping into this. Wouldn't doubt if it became a mainstay high margin product for them long term.

 

[tussin]

https://www.newscientist.com/articl...e-care-units-for-coronavirus-expert-predicts/

Imperial College geniuses are backtracking. Time to go heavy into the market recovery boys.

Side note, basically every doomsday projection is based on this model.

 

[RDU Irish]

Good post, Mike. On the topic of H1N1 being mild, it had a hospitalization rate of less than half a percent. COVID-19 is conservatively 20%ish right now, with some places tracking near 30%. That's the major issue... many people get really sick, and the mortality rate only stays low as long as you can provide adequate treatment to everyone who needs it.

I had gotten the same message from a local infectious disease MD who I have known for many years as our daughters are classmates. He set me straight on a few details I was struggling with - namely the tests are catching this actual COVID19 and not just coronavirus generally. Amazing to me those tests can be developed so quickly. Part of the hang up is the US regulations, part wanting a more accurate test - he agrees with most normal humans that a flawed test is better than no test. He was an early mover on TP hoarding. The reality is, lots of people will get it and lots of people will die, not that different than the flu. Slowing it down gives time for better treatment and capacity utilization.

It of course makes sense that UM would have a lot of infectious disease specialists. Michigan still sucks.

 

[RDU Irish]

https://www.newscientist.com/articl...e-care-units-for-coronavirus-expert-predicts/

Imperial College geniuses are backtracking. Time to go heavy into the market recovery boys.

Side note, basically every doomsday projection is based on this model.

The amount of non-confirmed cases is impossible to know and will just take time for better estimates - every doomsday I see assumes confirmed cases are the only cases. The fact so many ran with such bad statistics is beyond pathetic - I mean it isn't that complex of a concept and the skew in data produced is huge.

 

[tussin]

The amount of non-confirmed cases is impossible to know and will just take time for better estimates - every doomsday I see assumes confirmed cases are the only cases. The fact so many ran with such bad statistics is beyond pathetic - I mean it isn't that complex of a concept and the skew in data produced is huge.

It really is unfortunate that basically 95% of media outlets (liberal and conservative alike) continue to use this study as the basis for their "we're all going to die and it's the governments fault" and "how we must adapt society for future pandemics" think pieces. I always have had bad sentiments about media intentions but this is just the cherry on top -- the avalanche of doomsday articles has guided policy making and effectively destroyed many economies.

My city (Winston-Salem, NC) just issued a 3-week mandatory shelter in place (!!!). It's good and necessary to have caution but local officials are undoubtedly over-relying on these projections and are killing local business owners.

 

[koonja]

The amount of non-confirmed cases is impossible to know and will just take time for better estimates - every doomsday I see assumes confirmed cases are the only cases. The fact so many ran with such bad statistics is beyond pathetic - I mean it isn't that complex of a concept and the skew in data produced is huge.

This is what I've been saying since day 1. Reps.

 

[Henges24]

https://www.newscientist.com/articl...e-care-units-for-coronavirus-expert-predicts/

Imperial College geniuses are backtracking. Time to go heavy into the market recovery boys.

Side note, basically every doomsday projection is based on this model.

Maxed out the 401k to ride this baby back up. Was probably 1 day too late but better late than never.

It of course makes sense that UM would have a lot of infectious disease specialists. Michigan still sucks.

U of M's hospital is pretty amazing, tbh. Fvck Michigan still, besides the healthcare aspect.

 

[Irishize]

Good to see we've gotten to the "I'm going to murder people" phase of the cult. The most hilarious type of projection might be hysteria.

No, I’m pointing out the hysteria that the MSM is stoking which will further stoke the hysteria of middle Americans. And I have to stop assuming posters see sarcasm b/c you seemed to have missed it on my final statement.