COVID-19

[Bluto]

So, much of what I’m reading in the relief bill is centered on the idea of allowing businesses to defer taxes and payments until next year. Not really sure that is very helpful.

 

[317Irish]

So, much of what I’m reading in the relief bill is centered on the idea of allowing businesses to defer taxes and payments until next year. Not really sure that is very helpful.

If Wall Street thinks it looks good, Donny boy thinks it’s a good idea

 

[Wild Bill]

Sorry to hear about all that you are dealing with.

Have you heard or seen anything that might correlate vaping with increased risk?

Docs in Seattle were noticing people who vape were having trouble with recovery. No concrete data, but there was a noticeable trend. Not suggesting it's true or not but that's what I read.

 

[irishff1014]

A nursing home in Carroll County MD had 66 patients test positive and 11 are hospitalized.

 

[Bluto]

If Wall Street thinks it looks good, Donny boy thinks it’s a good idea

Yeah, to be clear I’m coming from a small owner operator perspective. The relief bill just kicks the can down the road. If businesses aren’t generating revenue deferring taxes and other related payments doesn’t help much. Eventually the piper is going to have to be paid.

 

[Bluto]

Docs in Seattle were noticing people who vape were having trouble with recovery. No concrete data, but there was a noticeable trend. Not suggesting it's true or not but that's what I read.

Thanks. That sucks if true. I don’t use tobacco products or vape but I know a bunch of people that do. Mostly old band cronies. I’m guessing this whole situation is bad news for areas that have been hard hit by opioids, meth and what not as well. We shall see.

 

[Legacy]

What's Inside The Senate's $2 Trillion Coronavirus Aid Package (NPR)

See Public Health section in above for specific funding for:
Hospitals ($100 billion)
Community health centers ($1.32 billion)
Drug access ($11 billion for diagnostics, treatments and vaccines).
FDA ($80 million) to prioritize and expedite approval of new drugs
Veterans' health care ($20 billion)
Telehealth: The bill reauthorizes a critical telehealth program to extend the reach of virtual doctors appointments.
Medicine and supplies: ($16 billion) to the Strategic National Stockpile to increase availability of equipment, including ventilators and masks. It also boosts hiring for vital health care jobs during the public health crisis and speeds the development of a vaccine, treatments and faster diagnostic.

Public Health total - $153.5 Billion

Other totals:
Individuals - $560 Billion
Big Corporations - $500 Billion
Small Businesses - $377 Billion
State and Local Govs - $339.8 Billion
Education - $43 Billion

The above figures from the Senate bill were generally kept in place by the House. The House did get provisions for oversight of a newly-created Fed Reserve Bank program of $454 Billion that would make loans to big corporations and administered by Black Rock with Mnuchin. In his signing statement, Trump said he would not abide by those oversight provisions.

 

[Jimmy3Putt]

I’ve read it’s bad if you’re a smoke but some apparently nicotine has some positive effects. I’ll link the article if I can find it.

Nice!
I'll let the wife know that my daily cigar habit is good for me.

 

[GATTACA!]

Boris Johnson's government is reportedly furious with China and believes it could have 40 times more coronavirus cases than it claims

 

[NorthDakota]

Boris Johnson's government is reportedly furious with China and believes it could have 40 times more coronavirus cases than it claims

China needs to be sanctioned into collapse after this is all done.

 

[Wild Bill]

Nice!
I'll let the wife know that my daily cigar habit is good for me.

Doubling my dip intake. Sacrifices must be made.

I posted earlier in this thread that one of my employees contracted the virus. He lied. Things just didnt add up, and I was on the phone all day to figure out how I could confirm. He finally admitted he was full of shit later that day and was terminated. It's almost hard to believe. Unfortunately, we did get have an employee test positive but he's recovering and it's been about ten days since he's had contact with anyone at the office. So far nobody else has had symptoms or tested positive. Fingers crossed.

The guy who tested positive is 41 and in relatively good shape - no pre-existing conditions, non-smoker and not terribly overweight. He's recovering and should be fine but he said it's brutal. He had difficulty breathing and a high fever that was difficult to break.

I previously mentioned my wife is a nurse at a large hospital in Chicago and she's had a few COVID patients in the last week. The hospital is preparing for a huge influx of patients this upcoming week and they're doing their best to change some things around to keep staff and other patients safe. Unfortunately, part of their plan is to place all covid patients in the building she works at and all non-covid patients will be placed in a separate building. It has to happen to prevent the spread to non-covid patients. It is what it is.

The patients that have been treated on her floor have had a rough time so far. They have an 18 year old girl who was intubated the other day and is strugging to survive. She's extremely overweight and the doctor treating her said she has the lung capacity of a 60 year old. In short, this isn't your typical flu. It's really difficult to breathe and anyone that is overweight will likely struggle to fight this off without hospitalization. I'm not posting this to panic anyone. Just relaying what I think may be useful info.

Stay safe boys.

 

[NDRock]

China needs to be sanctioned into collapse after this is all done.

Serious question, can’t we just make them pay for all our economic losses? Just take it off the money we owe them. Much better than Mexico paying for a wall.

 

[GATTACA!]

Serious question, can’t we just make them pay for all our economic losses? Just take it off the money we owe them. Much better than Mexico paying for a wall.

WWIII has entered the chat.

 

[phork]

Throwing some conspiracy gasoline on the fire. How great timing was Russias oil price war with the Saudis for China to ease out of recovery into full swing.

 

[Bluto]

Serious question, can’t we just make them pay for all our economic losses? Just take it off the money we owe them. Much better than Mexico paying for a wall.

“China’s gonna pay for the wall. It’ll be a big beautiful wall, some might say a great wall”.

 

[Legacy]

Doubling my dip intake. Sacrifices must be made.

I posted earlier in this thread that one of my employees contracted the virus. He lied. Things just didnt add up, and I was on the phone all day to figure out how I could confirm. He finally admitted he was full of shit later that day and was terminated. It's almost hard to believe. Unfortunately, we did get have an employee test positive but he's recovering and it's been about ten days since he's had contact with anyone at the office. So far nobody else has had symptoms or tested positive. Fingers crossed.

The guy who tested positive is 41 and in relatively good shape - no pre-existing conditions, non-smoker and not terribly overweight. He's recovering and should be fine but he said it's brutal. He had difficulty breathing and had a high fever that was difficult to break.

I previously mentioned my wife is a nurse at a large hospital in Chicago and she's had a few COVID patients in the last week. The hospital is preparing for a a huge influx of patients this upcoming week and they're doing their best to change some things around to keep staff and other patients safe. Unfortunately, part of their plan is to place all covid patients in the building she works at and all non-covid patients will be placed in a separate building. It has to happen to prevent the spread to non-covid patients. It is what it is.

The patients that have been treated on her floor have had a rough time so far. They have an 18 year old girl who was intubated the other day and is strugging to survive. She's extremely overweight and the doctor treating her said she has the lung capacity of a 60 year old. In short, this isn't your typical flu. It's really difficult to breathe and anyone that is overweight will likely struggle to fight this off without hospitalization. I'm not posting this to panic anyone. Just relaying what I think may be useful info.

Stay safe boys.

This virus behaves like no other and is especially virulent, destroying the body's defenses, is more than causes pneumonias, attacks the cardiac system and those dying may have no co-morbid conditions like diabetes, heart or lung disease, morbid obesity, or pulmonary problems like asthma or COPD.

‘There’s a lot we don’t know’: UW researchers look at how coronavirus turns body against itself and kills

Kudos to your wife (and you), who is a front-line hero in this war.

 

[Legacy]

Comparing COVID-19 in China to Italy, though countries who delayed implementing those mitigation measures like essential travel only, social distancing, etc. may have different behaviors by the virus as it became more established earlier. The Illinois Gov acted earlier though, right?

Case-Fatality Rate and Characteristics of Patients Dying in Relation to COVID-19 in Italy

 

[Jimmy3Putt]

Doubling my dip intake. Sacrifices must be made.

I posted earlier in this thread that one of my employees contracted the virus. He lied. Things just didnt add up, and I was on the phone all day to figure out how I could confirm. He finally admitted he was full of shit later that day and was terminated. It's almost hard to believe. Unfortunately, we did get have an employee test positive but he's recovering and it's been about ten days since he's had contact with anyone at the office. So far nobody else has had symptoms or tested positive. Fingers crossed.

The guy who tested positive is 41 and in relatively good shape - no pre-existing conditions, non-smoker and not terribly overweight. He's recovering and should be fine but he said it's brutal. He had difficulty breathing and had a high fever that was difficult to break.

I previously mentioned my wife is a nurse at a large hospital in Chicago and she's had a few COVID patients in the last week. The hospital is preparing for a a huge influx of patients this upcoming week and they're doing their best to change some things around to keep staff and other patients safe. Unfortunately, part of their plan is to place all covid patients in the building she works at and all non-covid patients will be placed in a separate building. It has to happen to prevent the spread to non-covid patients. It is what it is.

The patients that have been treated on her floor have had a rough time so far. They have an 18 year old girl who was intubated the other day and is strugging to survive. She's extremely overweight and the doctor treating her said she has the lung capacity of a 60 year old. In short, this isn't your typical flu. It's really difficult to breathe and anyone that is overweight will likely struggle to fight this off without hospitalization. I'm not posting this to panic anyone. Just relaying what I think may be useful info.

Stay safe boys.

I hope your wife stays healthy.
Please thank her for her service.

 

[Jimmy3Putt]

On a lighter note, I bought/won a Garmin G80 golf GPS last year in a silent auction. I used it as a on course GPS last year, but recently realized it has a launch monitor built in.

It has target practice, driving range, tempo training, and even virtual golf.
Basically it's a really cheap golf sim.
It only reads distance and smash factor (not accuracy) but I've been playing every day in my garage. Once you're on the green, it just adds 1-3 strokes for your putts depending on how close you are.


good times

 

[NDRock]

WWIII has entered the chat.

Ha. Well I’d prefer to avoid that.

 

[Sea Turtle]

China needs to be sanctioned into collapse after this is all done.

That's racist and xenophobic according to the media.

I sure hope it happens.

 

[texbender]

The engineering company I work for has so far been classified as "essential workers" in Texas. Our field staff continue to mobilize unless they want to stay home; office staff has transitioned to work from home. So at least we're working and have paychecks and health benefits.
My bother (doctor) and daughter (audiologist) seem to be concerned of the system being totally overwhelmed, which would be disasterous. I get the feeling they understand what's about to hit better than the rest of us.

 

[IrishLax]

The engineering company I work for has so far been classified as "essential workers" in Texas. Our field staff continue to mobilize unless they want to stay home; office staff has transitioned to work from home. So at least we're working and have paychecks and health benefits.
My bother (doctor) and daughter (audiologist) seem to be concerned of the system being totally overwhelmed, which would be disasterous. I get the feeling they understand what's about to hit better than the rest of us.

We were deemed "essential" here too. At first they ordered us closed but said that "construction" was essential... and then within a couple hours said "just kidding! I guess we need engineers and architects to keep the jobs running too!" I have very mixed feelings on this.

 

[loomis41973]

China needs to be sanctioned into collapse after this is all done.

Sign me up.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Sign me up.

i'm in.

 

[loomis41973]

30 more days of lock down? Not gonna happen without very bad outcomes.

 

[Irish YJ]

Rogan talked about the role of the president in one of his recent podcasts. He said that the president's main job during a time of crisis is to provide some sort of measured guidance. There has been none of that, from our dear leader. He called this a hoax; quite possibly the worst thing one can do when trying to control public fear and to gain buy-in for isolation measures. That ship has sailed, and it is what it is.

I hope that you and your fam stay safe, too, my friend. I have a nice supply of whiskey to see me through this storm. Remember, 120+ proof should be enough to kill the virus!

Regarding the hoax stuff. At minimum, very debatable.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-coronavirus-rally-remark/

If you can be critical of that, and not critical of much of the political stuff from the other side, then your mind is already pre-set. Especially the early attacks about being xenophobic an overreacting because he shut down China travel so early. The projections had he not done so that early, are simply frightening.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsa...onavirus-patients-test-negative-then-positive -- well, if this is accurate we could all be kinda screwed.

I've posted a few articles on the topic relevant to why we were slow on the testing front. In short, the original tests were found inaccurate, and CDC wanted totally new/different tests. Not surprising to see this getting more pub now.

I get that Trump could be criticized regardless of how he answers, but I can't think of a worse response than, "You are a terrible reporter".

I just watched his presser today (and many of the past dailies). The reporters are clearly in attack mode, and some don't even try to mask it. Even today it happened on simple topics that have been played out 10x already this week. The constant gotcha questions with clear motive are just tiresome. Quite simply, we have a bunch of terrible reporters simply wanting to be Orange Man Bad in all things. It's why the media's approval rating right now is lower than Trumps. If you honestly think the media isn't in attack mode, not sure what to tell ya.

Boris Johnson's government is reportedly furious with China and believes it could have 40 times more coronavirus cases than it claims

I truly hope there is a reckoning.

Serious question, can’t we just make them pay for all our economic losses? Just take it off the money we owe them. Much better than Mexico paying for a wall.

At minimum, they are going to lose a ton of business on goods considered essential. I hope we totally pull business for all essential drugs and medical supplies at minimum. That would be a huge loss, and I hope we do much, much more. It's time for the Western countries to come together on this. At minimum US, Canada, EU, Japan, etc..

30 more days of lock down? Not gonna happen without very bad outcomes.

Yup. There's just so much that could happen. No easy answer either way.
Even the simple and non-serious impacts like stir-craziness is impacting folks big time. Wouldn't be surprised if Netflix doesn't become free for a time pretty soon like some of the other premium services in an attempt to help.

I'm most concerned with folks getting desperate. The longer this goes on, the more impacts creep in.

 

[Irish2155]

I might be able to help and didn’t even expect it...

Cummins just asked me to mass provide people to make masks, etc... The details we’ll work through tomorrow morning and I’m sure my company will agree to not for profit.

I might have some temp jobs all over the country if anyone wants to help.

 

[GrangerIrish24]

I might be able to help and didn’t even expect it...

Cummins just asked me to mass provide people to make masks, etc... The details we’ll work through tomorrow morning and I’m sure my company will agree to not for profit.

I might have some temp jobs all over the country if anyone wants to help.

That’s awesome!

 

[Irish2155]

That’s awesome!

I’m pretty sure this’ll be go. I’m reading back through and don’t see any question marks in this email. A very important customer with growth on the horizon...I have 3 RFPs out right now. We’ll find a way to make this work, I’m sure of it. We could be talking about 1,000s of jobs here...