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You do realize that every topic in this country is now just a reason to spew your political rhetoric. Hell, I've seen people on here say the reason the SEC teams are good at college football is because they are located in red states.

Their kinky but just watch your butt. They can be too kinky.... Just my very personal experience... A friend told me about em.
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PSA: I'm joking about the red heads state of mind.... and I love me a auburn women
 
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Let’s say they extend the lockdown into the Fall, which sadly I think some are rooting for. When more people lose their jobs, money will be tighter than ever. When most regular folks have the choice between their shelter, food or meds; guess which one gets paid for last? So in addition to suicide, more indirect deaths from coronavirus.

Just the tip of the iceberg.

There are DOZENS of ways to directly and indirectly measure the impact of the "panic". Sadly, suicide, meds, are just two examples of directly attributing deaths to the "panic" if we continue to hit the gas on this.

I think people are inching towards waking up and thinking critically about this.
 

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You do realize that every topic in this country is now just a reason to spew your political rhetoric. Hell, I've seen people on here say the reason the SEC teams are good at college football is because they are located in red states.

When's the last time Cali or NY won a CFB natty?
 

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That's Madonna? I don't really believe It. She really might be an alien.

*Catholic Steve Rogers voice* "There's only one Madonna, YJ, and she doesn't dress like that."

So what are the rules here? We doing politics or not?

I'd prefer we keep the politics out. Threatens to destroy the virtues of this thread. There's virtually no topic that's not at least tangentially about COVID-19 right now, so anyone who wants to rail against a party or an elected official can do so in the Politics or the Trump thread.
 

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Just the tip of the iceberg.

There are DOZENS of ways to directly and indirectly measure the impact of the "panic". Sadly, suicide, meds, are just two examples of directly attributing deaths to the "panic" if we continue to hit the gas on this.

I think people are inching towards waking up and thinking critically about this.

I'm really curious If the people will push for a serious mental health agenda that comes directly from this chaos.
I'll be the first to admit I have had a rough few years and suicide has been an option.
My blood brother (we were adopted after 12 years of foster care) killed himself at 17 because of bullying and I honestly believe I exist because he did that.
Also I can't leave my kids like that.
 

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I've been thinking of rural America and the hospitals that serve them recently.
Rural areas, which tend to have older and more at-risk populations, have special challenges when it comes to testing, access to healthcare, shortages of providers, nurses, RTs, vents, supplies like the n95s. They rely on being able to transfer pts that are more complicated, will be in the hospital for any length of time, may require procedures or equipment above a certain level.

Hospital administrators within their systems have been preparing and know that geograhic distances is no assurance they will escape the pandemic. Rural hospitals have been closing in many communities and some have been on the verge of it prior to this. Few have ICU beds. They too are no longer doing what elective procedures they usually perform - a revenue stream. Some are in states that never expanded Medicaid which provides some reimbursement and will leave states footing the bill. You can bet they have had discussions with regional hospitals in towns of 25,000 or more and know the impact a surge in tiertiary hospitals will impact all. Many residents are uninsured but may have chronic diseases that will complicate their care. With staff shortages, the impact when some get Covid 19 and those exposed who need to self-quaranteen will be significant.
 

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For those interested in the potential Covid origins.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/03/200317175442.htm

Scientifically speaking, sounds like the most likely origins are one of the two below (based on molecular/backbone data). Not sure if either are commonly available in the Wuhan wet market they closed quickly.


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For those interested in the potential Covid origins.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/03/200317175442.htm

Scientifically speaking, sounds like the most likely origins are one of the two below (based on molecular/backbone data). Not sure if either are commonly available in the Wuhan wet market they closed quickly.


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Not the first outbreak to be tied to Chinese wet markets. What's the point of tolerating an authoritarian government if it's not even capable of stomping out such things?
 

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I've been thinking of rural America and the hospitals that serve them recently.
Rural areas, which tend to have older and more at-risk populations, have special challenges when it comes to testing, access to healthcare, shortages of providers, nurses, RTs, vents, supplies like the n95s. They rely on being able to transfer pts that are more complicated, will be in the hospital for any length of time, may require procedures or equipment above a certain level.

Hospital administrators within their systems have been preparing and know that geograhic distances is no assurance they will escape the pandemic. Rural hospitals have been closing in many communities and some have been on the verge of it prior to this. Few have ICU beds. They too are no longer doing what elective procedures they usually perform - a revenue stream. Some are in states that never expanded Medicaid which provides some reimbursement and will leave states footing the bill. You can bet they have had discussions with regional hospitals in towns of 25,000 or more and know the impact a surge in tiertiary hospitals will impact all. Many residents are uninsured but may have chronic diseases that will complicate their care. With staff shortages, the impact when some get Covid 19 and those exposed who need to self-quaranteen will be significant.

I would love to hear from someone that knows more about this topic. Where I live in Cali, the population has grown tremendously since I was a kid in the 80's yet I can only think of two new hospitals. Why is that? Whether a pandemic or a natural event, it seems like the infrastructure would be overrun, but no one ever prepared for something everyone believed could happen.
 

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I listened to a few broadcast today that said this virus may have been started by someone's mistake in a bio-lab in Wuhan. A mistake that happened and we can carry this for 37 days without any symptoms.
Wuhan has labs that test for biological diseases.
 

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Not the first outbreak to be tied to Chinese wet markets. What's the point of tolerating an authoritarian government if it's not even capable of stomping out such things?

I'm just surprised we didn't see massive and mysterious spread in some of the re-education camps and in the general, the Turkic and Hui Muslim communities.
 

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I've been thinking of rural America and the hospitals that serve them recently.
Rural areas, which tend to have older and more at-risk populations, have special challenges when it comes to testing, access to healthcare, shortages of providers, nurses, RTs, vents, supplies like the n95s. They rely on being able to transfer pts that are more complicated, will be in the hospital for any length of time, may require procedures or equipment above a certain level.

Hospital administrators within their systems have been preparing and know that geograhic distances is no assurance they will escape the pandemic. Rural hospitals have been closing in many communities and some have been on the verge of it prior to this. Few have ICU beds. They too are no longer doing what elective procedures they usually perform - a revenue stream. Some are in states that never expanded Medicaid which provides some reimbursement and will leave states footing the bill. You can bet they have had discussions with regional hospitals in towns of 25,000 or more and know the impact a surge in tiertiary hospitals will impact all. Many residents are uninsured but may have chronic diseases that will complicate their care. With staff shortages, the impact when some get Covid 19 and those exposed who need to self-quaranteen will be significant.

So how is the above scenario really any different then what is happening in metropolitan areas? Aren't urban areas concerned about hospital space and don't they have uninsured? Also given how this virus is spread I would think living in an urban environment makes one more likely to contract this virus versus living in a rural area.
 

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I'm just surprised we didn't see massive and mysterious spread in some of the re-education camps and in the general, the Turkic and Hui Muslim communities.

That's because China was systematically killing them before the virus could... but that's another thread.
 

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So how is the above scenario really any different then what is happening in metropolitan areas? Aren't urban areas concerned about hospital space and don't they have uninsured? Also given how this virus is spread I would think living in an urban environment makes one more likely to contract this virus versus living in a rural area.

There's both pros and cons, that's for sure. One of the talking head docs, as well as Cuomo touched on the issues today. Personally, I'd rather hunker down in a rural area than hunker down in a dense dense metro. Cuomo kind of suggested they plan to use upstate beds when NYC beds fill up, so really sounds like they anticipate the rural will fare better early on.
 

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Not the first outbreak to be tied to Chinese wet markets. What's the point of tolerating an authoritarian government if it's not even capable of stomping out such things?

They need to shut those wet markets down.

And you seem to disappear if you don't tolerate it.
 
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I'm really curious If the people will push for a serious mental health agenda that comes directly from this chaos.
I'll be the first to admit I have had a rough few years and suicide has been an option.
My blood brother (we were adopted after 12 years of foster care) killed himself at 17 because of bullying and I honestly believe I exist because he did that.
Also I can't leave my kids like that.

Everyone goes through dark times. Glad you made it through but your brother is heartbreaking.

Stay strong my man.
 

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They need to shut those wet markets down.

And you seem to disappear if you don't tolerate it.

I've been to wet markets in Mexico and Central America. Pretty interesting. Even our Intl Farmer's Market (extremely cool place) and a few bazaar type places around me are pretty wild. I also live just a few miles away from one of the most dense refuge populations in the US. I've seen some crazy stuff. Not wet market, but one neighbor about 1/2 mile outside of the neighborhood has a huge garden (probably close to an acre) that looks straight out of Cambodia. Bamboo structures holding up plants, plants I've never seen before, chickens and other shit running around. It's actually quite beautiful and extremely well kept, but it's certainly WTF type of stuff given the area/road.
 

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The mods are going to be more aggressive about keeping politics out of this thread. If your post contains the words "Democrat", "Republican", or an opinion on any specific elected official or proposed bill, there's a very good chance it doesn't belong here.
 

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The mods are going to be more aggressive more aggressive about keeping politics out of this thread. If your post contains the words "Democrat", "Republican", or an opinion on any specific elected official, there's a very good chance it doesn't belong here.

Sounds good.

Is communist still ok:eek:grin:
 

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I listened to a few broadcast today that said this virus may have been started by someone's mistake in a bio-lab in Wuhan. A mistake that happened and we can carry this for 37 days without any symptoms.
Wuhan has labs that test for biological diseases.

I'm just surprised we didn't see massive and mysterious spread in some of the re-education camps and in the general, the Turkic and Hui Muslim communities.


There was talk very early on how China has a laboratory in Wuhan that "studies" viruses and diseases. Supposedly researchers in that facility have also been known to sell animal test subjects on the street for extra cash. The media tried to squelch that talk, but if it's making rounds again you can bet where there's smoke there's fire. Even if it wasn't bio-engineered, the article doesn't discount the possibility that it was accidentally released from that facility. I mean, the first cases started occurring just 10 miles from the laboratory. What are the odds?
 
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There was talk very early on how China has a laboratory in Wuhan that "studies" viruses and diseases. Supposedly researchers in that facility have also been known to sell animal test subjects on the street for extra cash. The media tried to squelch that talk, but if it's making rounds again you can bet where there's smoke there's fire. Even if it wasn't bio-engineered, the article doesn't discount the possibility that it was accidentally released from that facility. I mean, the first cases started occurring just 10 miles from the laboratory. What are the odds?

The scientific publications have certainly not dismissed the possibility. Certain mainstream media sources however have done their best to defend both wet markets and Chinese lab culpability. The LA times wrote a piece that was LOL carrying water for China.
 

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As the U.S. and Canada share so many similarities, I am interested in knowing how governments will define "essential service(s)".

I had a discussion with a few individuals over the weekend and this might be a very tough one to define in light of current pandemic. Medical, Utilities, Food production and Distribution obviously but what additional goods and services?

We concluded that there could be several essential services.

Any thoughts?

Cheers and Go Irish!!
 

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As the U.S. and Canada share so many similarities, I am interested in knowing how governments will define "essential service(s)".

I had a discussion with a few individuals over the weekend and this might be a very tough one to define in light of current pandemic. Medical, Utilities, Food production and Distribution obviously but what additional goods and services?

We concluded that there could be several essential services.

Any thoughts?

Cheers and Go Irish!!

Our company is designated as essential. We are a distributor to aerospace service companies and medical manufacturers.
 

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My wife and I own a screen printing company in Frisco, Texas. With all the talk in the news and about the need for supplies and support for workers on the front line and the at risk population, we decided to offer tee shirts for sale with the proceeds going to the Center for Disaster Philanthropy's fund to support the efforts against COVID-19.
https://disasterphilanthropy.org/cdp-fund/cdp-covid-19-response-fund/


We thought it would be a fun way to help do our part. Feel free to buy a shirt or three and share with anybody else you know. Here is the online link. Shirts will be printed and mailed to your shipping address provided.

https://friscosportscares.itemorder.com/
 
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