COVID-19

[Irish#1]

Which current world leader is doing this?

Doesn't take much to get a rise out of you! lol

My Doctor's office said not to. I might be a false negative for now. If I experience symptoms then get tested. Since I live with my fiance, I have to quarantine whether I'm positive or negative, so eh what's it matter too.

Hope both of you don't develop anything.

 

[GowerND11]

Whiskey is currently drafting a beautiful rage post. I hope he sends you an invoice as well lmaooo

While typing that I honestly thought, “Well I have disappointed Whiskey...”

 

[Irishize]

Which current world leader is doing this?

Don’t be a silly goose, Gertrude. You know who I’m talking about...our NEXT POTUS...Biden. You do agree that COVID-19 will still be ravaging America on a daily basis in January post-inauguration, right? Of course you do.

 

[TorontoGold]

Don’t be a silly goose, Gertrude. You know who I’m talking about...our NEXT POTUS...Biden. You do agree that COVID-19 will still be ravaging America on a daily basis in January post-inauguration, right? Of course you do.

Breathe in and breathe out.....

Likely going to be bad for a long time and it's not just the US. The key difference is that the cases per million have always been very high in the US. I do like the confidence though

 

[Irish YJ]

Breathe in and breathe out.....

Likely going to be bad for a long time and it's not just the US. The key difference is that the cases per million have always been very high in the US. I do like the confidence though

I have a feeling the Western Euros will catch up to us. Their new cases/mil are tracking higher than ours.

And we're still sitting middle of the pack vs the Euros in deaths/million even though the US likely kills the Euros in the amount of people with comorbidities. If it weren't for the huge skews from NY and NJ, we'd be much more respectable in that area.

 

[IrishLax]

I have a feeling the Western Euros will catch up to us. Their new cases/mil are tracking higher than ours.

And we're still sitting middle of the pack vs the Euros in deaths/million even though the US likely kills the Euros in the amount of people with comorbidities. If it weren't for the huge skews from NY and NJ, we'd be much more respectable in that area.

Don't think that's true. The only sizable European countries with higher deaths per million are Spain and Belgium. Belgium is 3rd, Spain is 5th, USA is 10th -- https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

In terms of major first world countries, Belgium has done by far the worst job out of anyone. Cuomo-style mismanagement but for an entire country. Spain and USA have both struggled for different reasons. Virtually everyone else has either done slightly or significantly better than those three, and I think it's extremely unlikely that the United States will get passed by anyone other than maybe the UK.

 

[Irish YJ]

Don't think that's true. The only sizable European countries with higher deaths per million are Spain and Belgium. Belgium is 3rd, Spain is 5th, USA is 10th -- https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

In terms of major first world countries, Belgium has done by far the worst job out of anyone. Cuomo-style mismanagement but for an entire country. Spain and USA have both struggled for different reasons. Virtually everyone else has either done slightly or significantly better than those three, and I think it's extremely unlikely that the United States will get passed by anyone other than maybe the UK.

If we look at the Western Euros, UK, Belgium, Spain, Italy, France, and Germany... Belgium and Spain are worse. Italy and the UK are very close to us. France is not far off, and having a HUGE spike and could catch up. Their new cases yesterday were twice that of the UK and Spain. Germany is the only one far outside US #s

Overall, the combined EU won't be that different when all is said and done.

 

[NorthDakota]

If we look at the Western Euros, UK, Belgium, Spain, Italy, France, and Germany... Belgium and Spain are worse. Italy and the UK are very close to us. France is not far off, and having a HUGE spike and could catch up. Their new cases yesterday were twice that of the UK and Spain. Germany is the only one far outside US #s

Overall, the combined EU won't be that different when all is said and done.

I'm starting to think most western places will end up fairly similar with some outliers. Europeans don't seem too keen on new lockdowns, I doubt Americans are going to be compliant with any new lockdowns either.

The science stuff is way beyond my forte, I'm exclusively looking at how people anecdotally seem to behave.

 

[Irish YJ]

I'm starting to think most western places will end up fairly similar with some outliers. Europeans don't seem too keen on new lockdowns, I doubt Americans are going to be compliant with any new lockdowns either.

The science stuff is way beyond my forte, I'm exclusively looking at how people anecdotally seem to behave.

I've said since the beginning, people with comorbidities and the elderly, and people who are living with those with comorbidities or elderly, need to stay home. The death rate for everyone else is tiny. Less than 100 deaths for those under 15. Less than 500 deaths for those under 25. Right around 2000 total deaths for those under 35, which is about half our population. So 1% of deaths come from half the population. The older than 35 crowd account for 99% of deaths. And that is highly skewed to the 65+ demographic. In short, lock down those at risk. Give others a choice. So

 

[Sea Turtle]

I'm starting to think most western places will end up fairly similar with some outliers. Europeans don't seem too keen on new lockdowns, I doubt Americans are going to be compliant with any new lockdowns either.

The science stuff is way beyond my forte, I'm exclusively looking at how people anecdotally seem to behave.

It's almost like the U.S. is just a different animal than most countries.

I'm starting to think that anyone other than China is going to be hit pretty evenly with this because of the whole 'dragging entire towns and provinces literally kicking and screaming to isolation, forced labor to build onsite hospitals and burning bodies and reporters and whistleblowers simply disapearing for telling the truth' thing.

 

[Legacy]

Recent flu vax rates doesn't bode well for either vaccinations for the flu or Covid when we get one. If Trump is re-elected, there will be no change in policy and some enabling of behavior that will be counterproductive to any control of transmissions. Some will continue to feel they have a Constitution right to infect others and get the best medical care when they need hospitalization. I doubt anyone but a few idiots believes if ACA is ended by SCOTUS that there is a wonderful, low cost health plan with the same coverage and protections. We can all remember those who said the flu mortality is worse but don't step up and get vaccinated against it.

Winter also brings on Respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) and pertussis (whooping cough) in children and infants, but may occur in seniors. Both are highly contagious especially in close quarters. Prior to Covid, of the children hospitalized for an older coronavirus 85% of children had RSV. Children with both one of the older coronavirus infections and RSV needed intensive care at about the same rate as those who only had RSV. Worst case symptoms require emergency tracheostomies. However, having a higher viral load of that coronavirus was linked to more severe illness. Perhaps RSV with co-infection of a novel coronavirus would increase the rates of intensive care and the severity of symptoms.

Minimizing the effects of viruses this winter will be mask-wearing, social distancing, early intervention as rates rise, vaccinations, handwashing, quaranteening when necessary, early contact with physicians for testing and evaluation for adults and children and awareness of emergency symptoms in children. Behavior change may be necessary in some cases for the safety of others.

As Covid is filling up some hospitals, the area hospitals in some cases are arranging that one of them with pediatric ICUs take non-Covid pediatric patients. I would imagine those ped patients with a Covid co-infection would stay, though I am not sure if the accuracy of current Covid testing is the same for children.

 

[Irish#1]

Recent flu vax rates doesn't bode well for either vaccinations for the flu or Covid when we get one. If Trump is re-elected, there will be no change in policy and some enabling of behavior that will be counterproductive to any control of transmissions. Some will continue to feel they have a Constitution right to infect others and get the best medical care when they need hospitalization. I doubt anyone but a few idiots believes if ACA is ended by SCOTUS that there is a wonderful, low cost health plan with the same coverage and protections. We can all remember those who said the flu mortality is worse but don't step up and get vaccinated against it.

Winter also brings on Respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) and pertussis (whooping cough) in children and infants, but may occur in seniors. Both are highly contagious especially in close quarters. Prior to Covid, of the children hospitalized for an older coronavirus 85% of children had RSV. Children with both one of the older coronavirus infections and RSV needed intensive care at about the same rate as those who only had RSV. Worst case symptoms require emergency tracheostomies. However, having a higher viral load of that coronavirus was linked to more severe illness. Perhaps RSV with co-infection of a novel coronavirus would increase the rates of intensive care and the severity of symptoms.

Minimizing the effects of viruses this winter will be mask-wearing, social distancing, early intervention as rates rise, vaccinations, handwashing, quaranteening when necessary, early contact with physicians for testing and evaluation for adults and children and awareness of emergency symptoms in children. Behavior change may be necessary in some cases for the safety of others.

As Covid is filling up some hospitals, the area hospitals in some cases are arranging that one of them with pediatric ICUs take non-Covid pediatric patients. I would imagine those ped patients with a Covid co-infection would stay, though I am not sure if the accuracy of current Covid testing is the same for children.

My premiums and deductibles went way up once the ACA was introduced. I know quite a few that have seen the same thing happen to them.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

My Doctor's office said not to. I might be a false negative for now. If I experience symptoms then get tested. Since I live with my fiance, I have to quarantine whether I'm positive or negative, so eh what's it matter too.

My fiance's test came back negative, so after a week of sleeping in different rooms we're gonna have a few cocktails tonight and "celebrate." Carry on, lads.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

My premiums and deductibles went way up once the ACA was introduced. I know quite a few that have seen the same thing happen to them.

Mine became lower and have remained so. My wife works for a government agency and her plan has improved over time since ACA. Weird how it all works.

 

[GowerND11]

My fiance's test came back negative, so after a week of sleeping in different rooms we're gonna have a few cocktails tonight and "celebrate." Carry on, lads.

Good news!

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

We are setting daily records of new cases now. Deaths are rising again as well.

 

[notredomer23]

https://theeconomicstandard.com/dr-brian-tysons-first-person-account-of-treating-covid-19-with-hydroxychloroquine/

Anyone know the validity of the source? The only other source I could find verifying this doctor was from a local California news station. Website looks a bit janky so not buying it but would be something if true.

 

[yankeehater]

Mine became lower and have remained so. My wife works for a government agency and her plan has improved over time since ACA. Weird how it all works.

My wife lost her doctor she had been going to her whole life (regardless of where she worked or her insurance). He was a part of a small consortium of doctors which was no longer covered under the ACA. My guess is companies like Kaiser signed on to the ACA with the knowledge the "little guys" would not be covered.

I work for a Fortune 500 company and because of the increased rates under the ACA our corporation went from Aetna to Anthem. Even with that change, our monthly rates are still higher than pre-ACA.

Lastly, and the worst of all. My Mom's meds for A-Fib went from approx. $100 to over $1000 per month. Unbeknownst to us she stopped taking it which led to her having a massive stroke. I can say the ACA is partly responsible for her not being alive today so I TAKE THIS PERSONAL.

 

[PerthDomer]

The Afib medication thing is specifically covered in Biden's plan just FYI. And expansion of medicare to 60 will also lead to reduced commercial insurance prices by shifting off a high risk demo.

 

[ACamp1900]

My wife lost her doctor she had been going to her whole life (regardless of where she worked or her insurance). He was a part of a small consortium of doctors which was no longer covered under the ACA. My guess is companies like Kaiser signed on to the ACA with the knowledge the "little guys" would not be covered.

I work for a Fortune 500 company and because of the increased rates under the ACA our corporation went from Aetna to Anthem. Even with that change, our monthly rates are still higher than pre-ACA.

Lastly, and the worst of all. My Mom's meds for A-Fib went from approx. $100 to over $1000 per month. Unbeknownst to us she stopped taking it which led to her having a massive stroke. I can say the ACA is partly responsible for her not being alive today so I TAKE THIS PERSONAL.

Same. I take it personally too, my father is certainly not with us due to that bill, my uncle probably so as well tho his situation was one that may have worsened regardless (tho the ACA def helped quicken things). I get some are just programmed to support it because it’s a dem bill but I get very angry when I see some defend it like it’s this huge win win with nothing problematic at all about its passing or consequences. I often have to just step away and not post when it’s brought up.

 

[yankeehater]

The Afib medication thing is specifically covered in Biden's plan just FYI. And expansion of medicare to 60 will also lead to reduced commercial insurance prices by shifting off a high risk demo.

In my life, I have learned not to trust anything a politician says (or writes for that matter) especially one who was part of an administration who said "if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor" and promised a $2500 savings for the average family under their plan.

Fool me once.....

 

[NDBoiler]

https://theeconomicstandard.com/dr-brian-tysons-first-person-account-of-treating-covid-19-with-hydroxychloroquine/

Anyone know the validity of the source? The only other source I could find verifying this doctor was from a local California news station. Website looks a bit janky so not buying it but would be something if true.

I don’t know about the validity of that article, but I can share what a work colleague from Brazil had told me a couple months ago. He mentioned that many people in Brazil who have gone to the doctor for treatment have been given hydroxychloroquine and have recovered well from its use. This is one anecdotal case, but I think it underscores the point that not everyone views these treatments the same as what is reported in the US media or by government agencies. Too often I feel that we see something reported and automatically extrapolate it to be happening everywhere, when often that is not the case

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Healthcare is personal. It’s personal for everyone. My own personal experience and that of my immediate family has been improved. I don’t know why mine is better and yours isn’t. It’s weird and I don’t think wholly the fault of the bill but I know some people hate the bill so much they wont see past that. I know it’s not the same for everyone and I don’t blindly praise it because it’s a Dem Bill.

 

[Irish#1]

My fiance's test came back negative, so after a week of sleeping in different rooms we're gonna have a few cocktails tonight and "celebrate." Carry on, lads.

Have one for me.

 

[irishff1014]

We are setting daily records of new cases now. Deaths are rising again as well.

But they are reporting that the Flu cases are down.. LOL of course they are when you call it covid.

 

[NorthDakota]

My fiance's test came back negative, so after a week of sleeping in different rooms we're gonna have a few cocktails tonight and "celebrate." Carry on, lads.

Far too many degenerates on this board.

 

[Circa]

Both my ex wife, her new husband and my 2 oldest kids 13/14. All have it. Ex and hubby had a fever and lost taste, lasted 2 days. My kids have zero symptoms.... other than not being able to attend school and missing their social life. (The main symptom of Covid)

 

[Irish YJ]

Both my ex wife, her new husband and my 2 oldest kids 13/14. All have it. Ex and hubby had a fever and lost taste, lasted 2 days. My kids have zero symptoms.... other than not being able to attend school and missing their social life. (The main symptom of Covid)

prayers to all

 

[Irish YJ]

UK locking down again.

 

[GowerND11]

Update for us: I ended up with a pretty bad head cold from Thursday through yesterday. Nothing serious, and never had a temp, but annoying nonetheless. Today I feel like you do normally when recovering from a head cold, much better but still not 100%. I did lose some taste/smell. Beer has had no flavor, but food, iced tea, and etc all taste the same.

The fiance has had absolutely no issues at all, and she's really only suffering from boredom.