COVID-19

[RDU Irish]

OK ... maybe there is some usefulness in this UVC business. It, however, is not an obvious solution to our big problems.

The basic science: ultraviolet light generally will destroy micro-organisms and viruses along with mutating our own cells. UV is "divided" artificially by scientists into three wavelength ranges. UVA (near UV) is poorly filtered by the ozone layer and can cause some disinfecting action, suntan, and some amounts of skin cancer through over-exposure. UVB sneaks some amount through the ozone layer and is a real bad guy as to cancers. UVC is the shortest length UV class radiation (abutting up against the X-rays) but is entirely filtered out by the Ozone layer. "A" "B" and "C" decrease in wavelength, and thereby increase in potential chemical bond destruction, and (one would think) cellular danger and molecular damaging. To some degree that is correct.

BUT. Although UVC is theoretically a dangerous chemical bond-breaker, it (of course) has to "hit" that vulnerable cell or whatever to break that bond and ultimately flummox the cell's or the virus' ability to function. "Shine" that light directly on something and whatever organic molecules get "hit" may likely "break." For a micro-organism, "break" equals "die", so this has been used against Tuberculosis for a while.

UVC is used in human situations because if it is prevented from being too intense and just limited to human skin surfaces, the outer layers of our skin (dead cells called Keratinocytes I think I remember) will absorb the UVC stopping it from going deeper to the living level. If "germs" are on the surface, UVC may well kill them without damaging the person. This doesn't hold for the UVB range, so whatever your radiative device is must be very well engineered.

Also, in the COVID situation, the idea floated is to have all sensitive areas of personal interaction (especially medical, but also common areas such as grocery stores et al) outfitted with UVC devices. The idea of these would be to sterilize the air and, using air drafts/circulation, some percentage of contaminated surfaces. Not a dead simple thing.

1. This is EXPENSIVE.
2. It requires very good engineering --- air drafting to push air constantly over surfaces and upwards through the devices to bring contaminants close to the UV kill zones in the devices is one example of the engineering involved.
3. UVC is a form of Light, so it diminishes in intensity by the standard 1 over r-squared law. That means distances are just as important as radiation power in the initial generator. That's geometry and therefore more clever engineering.
4. It would be nice to know exactly what the vulnerability (fragility) of COVID was before we did all that engineering --- i.e. how much ZAP does it take to make it inert?
5. BIG money organizations MIGHT be able to afford all this --- Small ones surely couldn't.
6. The public is not only uneducated but almost hysterical when it comes to ANY mention of "radiation." How much trouble will their (ignorant --- yes that's all you can call it) emotions cause?

Well, the list can easily go on. You get the idea. NOT a quick fix to the COVID problem.

Is this similar to the UV lights people promote in HVAC air handlers to help with allergies?

Another interesting concept presented to me recently on antibodies. Is exposure required to create the antibodies that get found in testing and those reduce over an unknown time as you are further removed from exposure such that a few weeks after you resist or recover you may no longer show antibodies? If I had it or resisted it in February - entirely possible I no longer test as such?

 

[Legacy]

The Economic Impact of COVID-19

The Economic Impact of COVID-19

The health insurance market is in the process of major changes and significantly impact state revenue and costs related to the skyrocketing sudden unemployed who had obtained heath insurance through their employers.

- Twenty-five million workers or more could lose employer-based health insurance due to COVID-19-related unemployment.
- An estimated 160 million people nationwide under the age of 65 had health insurance through their employer just before the COVID-19 pandemic hit.
- Thirty million workers filed for unemployment between March 15 and April 25, according to federal statistics.
- Millions who lose their jobs and their dependents enroll in Medicaid, purchase Marketplace coverage, or become uninsured.

I previously posted the stats on unemployment and uninsured. Those are expected to increase per the Admin's Economic Counsel through May. A recent study by the Urban Institute and the Robert Woods Johnson Foundation found that this sudden unemployment in those states will disproportionally affect states who did not expand Medicaid, losing that possible safety net. This was also reported in the Commonwealth Fund with their analysis and conclusions.

Their conclusions:

Joblessness will likely increase uninsurance rates throughout the country in the coming months, and states that did not expand Medicaid under the ACA will likely see larger increases. Given that unemployment rates may reach unprecedented heights during the COVID-19 crisis, steep increases in Medicaid coverage will strain state budgets, restricting already limited resources in the very communities hardest hit by the pandemic. Increasing the federal Medicaid matching rate, beyond the increase already mandated under the recently passed Families First Coronavirus Response Act, could help provide the critical resources needed to protect the states most in need.

(Urban Institute)

Missing out on federal dollars

The fact that nonexpansion states are missing out on federal funding is not new. But now we have an urgent need for coverage and funds to pay providers. States that don’t take up the expansion face this crisis with considerably fewer federal resources. We calculated the federal dollars states will receive through the new Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act (CARES) Act, which will be allocated to all states by population, along with the federal funding states receive through Medicaid. We found that expansion states will receive $1,755 in federal funding per state resident; in comparison, nonexpansion states will receive $1,198 per resident.1 Looking at states with similar populations, Kansas, which has not yet expanded, will receive $1,083 per state resident, compared to $1,436 per resident in its neighboring expansion state, Iowa.

(Commonwealth Fund)

As the uninsured rate skyrockets, states that have expanded Medicaid will be in a much stronger position. Medicaid expands when people lose their jobs and health insurance. But in nonexpansion states, millions of low-income parents and other adults will not qualify for coverage no matter how low their income. A recent study found that in states that have expanded Medicaid, the program covered 35.8 percent of all unemployed adults ages 19 to 64; in nonexpansion states, Medicaid reached only 16.4 percent of unemployed adults. As a result, the uninsured rate among the unemployed in nonexpansion states was nearly double the rate in expansion states (42.5% vs. 22.6%).

(CWF)

In Pennsylvania, for instance:

The avalanche of claims has overwhelmed state unemployment offices. The Pennsylvania Department of Labor and Industry’s Unemployment Compensation Office, which has called in retirees and workers from other state departments, says it responded to 5,196 emails on Tuesday. Despite the added help, the backlog is now so large that the wait time for an email reply has grown to 34 days.

The unprecedented payouts of billions of dollars in jobless benefits is also rapidly depleting government unemployment insurance coffers, pushing trust funds close to insolvency State officials say the cash-burn rate will not jeopardize payments, but it will force many states to borrow funds, which will need to be repaid with higher unemployment insurance taxes on employers in future years.

The conclusions by RWF:

Researchers suggest several policy options to mitigate burdens on state budgets and the rise in uninsurance, such as temporarily enabling more Medicaid support in non-expansion states, expanding the income range for premium subsidies in the ACA marketplaces, providing subsidies for COBRA insurance, and enhancing Medicaid matching rates.

The debate over expansion vs non-expansion is not new. But states that did not expand may consider this as one alternative to reduce that uninsured rate from 42.5%.

It’s important to consider the timing of an expansion. Implementation could not happen overnight but experience with expansion and previous disaster-related coverage initiatives (e.g., post-Hurricane Katrina) suggests it could be put into place relatively quickly. This is particularly true if states streamline their requests for the purpose of initial implementation and the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services acts with the same level of urgency it has employed throughout this crisis. Expansion could come in time to address the current COVID-19 crisis, depending on how long the crisis extends and whether it recurs. And expansion certainly could be in place to address the economic consequences of the pandemic. Another concern is states’ costs, particularly as state revenues plummet. States have found that general revenue spending has not grown as a result of expansion because of offsetting savings and reliance on other sources of funding for the nonfederal share, such as existing or recalibrated provider fees.

States that have yet to expand Medicaid are forgoing billions of federal dollars that can cover the uninsured and dramatically reduce the losses sustained by hospitals and other health providers. The current public health crisis, skyrocketing number of uninsured, and fragility of our health care system offer compelling reasons for nonexpansion states to take another look.

(CWF)

States that have also lost revenue from other sources such as the oil and gas producing states or those in precarious budget situations prior to COVID-19 or those states who have been hard hit by COVID-19 cases and their economic costs will see increased pressure on their budgets. Other options - besides federal bailout money and to broaden the income bracket for premium subsidies for anyone purchasing health insurance through the Marketplace - are to provide subsidies for purchasing COBRA policies, and make Medicaid matching rates more attractive. (Those states who expanded Medicaid and run their own exchanges and control their special open enrollment periods have done that and provided that alternative for health insurance.)

 

[SonofOahu]

‘Shocking’: 66% of new coronavirus patients in N.Y. stayed home: Cuomo


https://www.nydailynews.com/coronav...0200506-eyqui4b5lfdn7g6cqswkf6otly-story.html

Wow. It must be those damn 5G towers

So statistically speaking, you have a lower chance of getting hospitalized if you don't "Shelter in place"?

The presentation of the headline is misleading. It article talked about 66% of the recent positives, or something to that extent. That's not surprising.

 

[SonofOahu]

So to summarize: Governor Cuomo forced elderly patients (for which we can ALL agree are the most vulnerable in this pandemic) who were positive COVID-19 patients back into their respective nursing homes. While the state provided PPE for the nursing home employees, they went a step further and provided body bags for their eventual deaths (basically admitting they know this is a bad idea)

How does a “brilliant” mind like Cuomo not know that the last thing you want to do w/ the most vulnerable citizens is to introduce a vector that is guaranteed to spread the virus amongst those most vulnerable? It’s not like this happened in the first few weeks of the pandemic.

Unbelievable

https://www.businessinsider.com/nur...hen-they-accepted-coronavirus-patients-2020-4

You realize why this has to occur, right? It's a throughput issue. What happens when your hospitals get overwhelmed? You have to clear out enough space to take care of the most sick. You discharge patients who have a fighting chance to make it, or don't admit them to begin with. You need the space for the worst off.

You can't discharge them to the street, so you have to place them back where they came from (hopefully) and tell them to section off a wing/floor/area for COVID patients and cohort as many as they can into those areas. Hopefully those sectioned areas are completely isolated. Probably not, though.

Are people going to die in that case? Yes. Were they vulnerable to begin with? Hell Yes. Do you feel terrible about that? No doubt. Do you have to make that choice in order to try and save the most lives? Yes.

So tell me, what would you do? Or have you not thought this process through? Because I've had to game out this exact choice, brother. It ain't that easy, and NY wasn't necessarily wrong.

 

[SonofOahu]

Thank you for the post Mike. The UV light is also used internally in the body (remember when people laughed at Trump) for even implying that could happen. The company is Aytu Bioscience and their device is currently being used by Cedar Sanai. They are now testing it on Covid patients. The scary thing to me was the reaction of Dr. Birx! She either had no idea the technology exists or believes Trump is the dumbest man alive or a combination of both. That should put a scare in you that the people put in charge of saving us from a deadly virus have no idea what is currently being used in the field. I have on several occasions brought up the drug Lironlimab. It has shown the most positive results especially in late stage Covid patients. That drug is now being used in compassionate care at UCLA. Hey, but let's continue to use Big Pharma drugs with all of their side effects. I posted a link on the UV technology.. There is a video on the company website that shows how it works. Sadly, once Trump mentioned the thought of such a thing this small Bio company has been getting harassed and threatened.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/president-trump-asked-light-inside-142434136.html

This UV system is theoretical; it has not gone through clinical trials. You should slow your roll, here.

 

[SonofOahu]

Is this similar to the UV lights people promote in HVAC air handlers to help with allergies?

Yes, same principle as the HVAC lights, but way way stronger. The Nebraska method for n95 disinfection is like Dr. Manhattan level blue-glow. It's crazy cool. Exposure time is a problem, though. The amount of UVC needed to kill SARS-CoV-2 is bound to cause cancer if you were to try to shove a bulb down your pie-hole.

 

[NorthDakota]

You realize why this has to occur, right? It's a throughput issue. What happens when your hospitals get overwhelmed? You have to clear out enough space to take care of the most sick. You discharge patients who have a fighting chance to make it, or don't admit them to begin with. You need the space for the worst off.

You can't discharge them to the street, so you have to place them back where they came from (hopefully) and tell them to section off a wing/floor/area for COVID patients and cohort as many as they can into those areas. Hopefully those sectioned areas are completely isolated. Probably not, though.

Are people going to die in that case? Yes. Were they vulnerable to begin with? Hell Yes. Do you feel terrible about that? No doubt. Do you have to make that choice in order to try and save the most lives? Yes.

So tell me, what would you do? Or have you not thought this process through? Because I've had to game out this exact choice, brother. It ain't that easy, and NY wasn't necessarily wrong.

In NYC's case, could have sent the old folks to the Javitz Center I imagine.

Im not gonna roast Cuomo too hard because hindsight is 20/20 and idk what info he had...I do find it amusing that New York has gotten completely fucked relative to every other part of the country and the media makes him out to be a faultless guy just doing no wrong.

 

[RDU Irish]

Yes, same principle as the HVAC lights, but way way stronger. The Nebraska method for n95 disinfection is like Dr. Manhattan level blue-glow. It's crazy cool. Exposure time is a problem, though. The amount of UVC needed to kill SARS-CoV-2 is bound to cause cancer if you were to try to shove a bulb down your pie-hole.

I don't see this as a personal treatment method as much as a sanitation of public spaces. IMO this is more a matter of reducing virus load in many areas. What if a "safe" level shining full time on the carts at the entrance reduces load by 20-30%? Is that not a worthwhile thing? If Walmart blasts the HVAC with UVC or blasts the whole building overnight - virus load will be less. Shut down public transit for 20 minutes and blast the UVC to disinfect surfaces quickly and easily.

Perfect is the enemy of good - which is my biggest problem with all of the hysteria.

 

[GoldenToTheGrave]

I don't see this as a personal treatment method as much as a sanitation of public spaces. IMO this is more a matter of reducing virus load in many areas. What if a "safe" level shining full time on the carts at the entrance reduces load by 20-30%? Is that not a worthwhile thing? If Walmart blasts the HVAC with UVC or blasts the whole building overnight - virus load will be less. Shut down public transit for 20 minutes and blast the UVC to disinfect surfaces quickly and easily.

Perfect is the enemy of good - which is my biggest problem with all of the hysteria.

I know they already use UV light to disinfect ambulances and such so this isn't exactly new, can't speak to what the procedures are in hospitals.

 

[Irishize]

You realize why this has to occur, right? It's a throughput issue. What happens when your hospitals get overwhelmed? You have to clear out enough space to take care of the most sick. You discharge patients who have a fighting chance to make it, or don't admit them to begin with. You need the space for the worst off.

You can't discharge them to the street, so you have to place them back where they came from (hopefully) and tell them to section off a wing/floor/area for COVID patients and cohort as many as they can into those areas. Hopefully those sectioned areas are completely isolated. Probably not, though.

Are people going to die in that case? Yes. Were they vulnerable to begin with? Hell Yes. Do you feel terrible about that? No doubt. Do you have to make that choice in order to try and save the most lives? Yes.

So tell me, what would you do? Or have you not thought this process through? Because I've had to game out this exact choice, brother. It ain't that easy, and NY wasn't necessarily wrong.

He had the Navy ship and the Javet center as options to house the infected rather than expose the vulnerable. He CHOSE to expose the vulnerable because there’s no money in low mortality numbers...brother.

And CUOMO is the one who said EVERY life is precious. Brownie from the Hurricane Katrina debacle had more sense than this empty suit. But the media loves his pressers & watching his brother & him make out on CNN every night.

 

[notredomer23]

New Jersey had our first day under 1000 cases today since March 25th. From it's peak on April 14th at 8,084 hospitalizations, there are currently 4,328 hospitalizations with 19,718 beds available as of April 28th. Ventilator capacity is at 31.5%.

Yet Governor Murphy has provided even less directive on reopening than even Cuomo. He says a plan is coming this week with dates, but this should have already been out there.

Source of the data: https://www.nj.gov/health/cd/topics/covid2019_dashboard.shtml

 

[Legacy]

Patients discharged from the hospital post-COVID are no longer contagious. NHs are one of the parts of our healthcare system that is for-profit. One aspect of this virus is the length of time it takes to recover enough to get off ventilators. If you are a NH operator and want to maximize your profits expecting that your hospitalized resident may return in 1-2 months, especially if you have a waiting list, hospital discharge personnel may have nowhere to send the patient when they are ready because the NH operator has filled that bed.

Staying in a hospital can be dangerous to a patient whose immune system has been stressed, especially considering hospital acquired infections. The patient ready for discharge may be one that has federal health insurance, which reimburses at a lower rate. So if you have someone ready to take their bed with private insurance, you fill it with them. Hospital discharge personnel can't send them to the Javits Center, where all are active COVID patients nor to the Navy ship which was not accepting COVID patients.

When a patient meets discharge criteria no matter what type of insurance, reimbursement ends. What would you do? Contact the family, if possible, and force them to take the patient? Keep them in the hospital, effectively creating a NH with losses for uncompensated care? The NH they left knows them and their needs best. For a continuity of care, you would want them to continue there, right? If you have to obtain a new placement, the only bed could be many miles away (from family too?).

Another part of his order was that NH cannot deny admission or re-admission based on a diagnosed or suspected diagnosis of COVID-19. Say they sent a NH patient to the ER. The patient was negative or did not meet the criteria and was not serious enough to admit. You do not want the NH to refuse to take the patient back. They have the ability to follow basic isolation precautions. This is why Cuomo was calling it their "basic fiduciary obligation" that they were violating. Reimbursements are given to such facilities at the beginning of the month and they are obligated to provide the care under standard criteria.

There are quite a number of considerations here from a health care perspective. The optimal solution is to place them back at the NH they came from. The only other issue I could see would be if they were deconditioned to the point they needed rehab which that NH could not provide. That might delay a discharge, but a hospital would not be reimbursed for it since it should be handled at a lower level of care.

 

[Legacy]

While the discharge issues from hospitals back to NHs remain the same, Cuomo has partially reversed himself.

Cuomo Reverses Nursing Home Directive to Take COVID-19 Patients, Requires More Staff Testing

Whether those NH beds will be available to return to, where those medically stable positive NH patients without serious symptoms are to be placed, continuity of care and the impact on ERs and their hospitals remain problems to resolve, especially when elective surgeries and other admissions start filling up beds.

VA NHs have their own issues, but operate more as a closed system. Staffers sick with the virus seems to aggravate the short staffing situation.

Veterans Home In Paramus, With 72 Dead, Suffers One Of Worst COVID-19 Outbreaks In U.S.

 

[calvegas04]

Looks like another $1200 check will be getting out to everyone

 

[TheRealLynch51]

Looks like another $1200 check will be getting out to everyone

Got a link? Last I heard, Senate Republicans weren't too keen on anotherobig relief package

 

[Circa]

Hey, I just recently,,,...... yesterday, (I got my Doctorate In Human Relations/Economics/ and Idiotic behavior by our 2 party system....

Now will you listen? I can say I'm the 2nd coming of Christ and you all would call your neighbor and ask If Around and about exists?.

Our Economy Is on the verge of collapse, Our Healthcare system Is failing and Dr. Fauci Is OK with it and the failure of our children's school system IS being #Fauici'ed.

If for 2 seconds you believe Dr. Fauici Isn't a fraud built up by some crazy type of monetary control... Good luck. I want everyone to do well. E V E R Y.... ONE!

 

[Circa]

Looks like another $1200 check will be getting out to everyone

Where Is this money coming from? And when everyone that wants their children's tax return and do not understand 2400 dollars will be coming out of their refund check next year, what will happen then? Bail out with gold bullion.???
It's a Bush 2001 era tactic. It caused major pain to be a movie.... JK about the movie....

 

[Circa]

Patients discharged from the hospital post-COVID are no longer contagious. NHs are one of the parts of our healthcare system that is for-profit. One aspect of this virus is the length of time it takes to recover enough to get off ventilators. If you are a NH operator and want to maximize your profits expecting that your hospitalized resident may return in 1-2 months, especially if you have a waiting list, hospital discharge personnel may have nowhere to send the patient when they are ready because the NH operator has filled that bed.

Staying in a hospital can be dangerous to a patient whose immune system has been stressed, especially considering hospital acquired infections. The patient ready for discharge may be one that has federal health insurance, which reimburses at a lower rate. So if you have someone ready to take their bed with private insurance, you fill it with them. Hospital discharge personnel can't send them to the Javits Center, where all are active COVID patients nor to the Navy ship which was not accepting COVID patients.

When a patient meets discharge criteria no matter what type of insurance, reimbursement ends. What would you do? Contact the family, if possible, and force them to take the patient? Keep them in the hospital, effectively creating a NH with losses for uncompensated care? The NH they left knows them and their needs best. For a continuity of care, you would want them to continue there, right? If you have to obtain a new placement, the only bed could be many miles away (from family too?).

Another part of his order was that NH cannot deny admission or re-admission based on a diagnosed or suspected diagnosis of COVID-19. Say they sent a NH patient to the ER. The patient was negative or did not meet the criteria and was not serious enough to admit. You do not want the NH to refuse to take the patient back. They have the ability to follow basic isolation precautions. This is why Cuomo was calling it their "basic fiduciary obligation" that they were violating. Reimbursements are given to such facilities at the beginning of the month and they are obligated to provide the care under standard criteria.

There are quite a number of considerations here from a health care perspective. The optimal solution is to place them back at the NH they came from. The only other issue I could see would be if they were deconditioned to the point they needed rehab which that NH could not provide. That might delay a discharge, but a hospital would not be reimbursed for it since it should be handled at a lower level of care.

It was only 3 weeks ago that we all had to worry about recurrences of this level 2 CDC virus (Level 3 and 4 are very contagious- Ebola-4 and Aids Is level 3)
The scientists weren't even wearing masks while manipulating-testing a coronavirus- Covid 0-19),.... that shut down the most economically developed country that the world has ever seen and the US dollar Is based off of... In our country...?

If the NFL and College sports are played today... (one can't equal the other)
IMHO we have been preyed upon by a more evil entity than any other in the history of the human existence.

We have been groomed. It's highway robbery. Those of us minions that can't afford these bribes will be those that are homeless too.

Some scientist say there are alternate universes... I now feel as tho I should believe them.

 

[TheRealLynch51]

Where Is this money coming from? And when everyone that wants their children's tax return and do not understand 2400 dollars will be coming out of their refund check next year, what will happen then? Bail out with gold bullion.???
It's a Bush 2001 era tactic. It caused major pain to be a movie.... JK about the movie....

From a literal sense, this isn't true. The stimulus checks were a tax credit that ends up being applied after all of the deductions you take. So if you're taxable income after deductions for yourself/kids etc. ends up being say 70K, this tax credit gets applied dollar for dollar to make your income $68,800. If your refund was going to be 2K before the credit, you'll still get your 2K tax refund. The IRS will just show that the "refund" amount you were eligible for is the 2K plus the $1200, so $3200. But since you got this check a month ago, that $1200 has already been taken out of your $3200 refund, hence why you would still get 2K in this scenario.

If you talking more in a broad sense, then I agree. Budget cuts and additional taxes are going to be needed somewhere down the road to make up for this.

 

[TorontoGold]

It was only 3 weeks ago that we all had to worry about recurrences of this level 2 CDC virus (Level 3 and 4 are very contagious- Ebola-4 and Aids Is level 3)
The scientists weren't even wearing masks while manipulating-testing a coronavirus- Covid 0-19),.... that shut down the most economically developed country that the world has ever seen and the US dollar Is based off of... In our country...?

If the NFL and College sports are played today... (one can't equal the other)
IMHO we have been preyed upon by a more evil entity than any other in the history of the human existence.

We have been groomed. It's highway robbery. Those of us minions that can't afford these bribes will be those that are homeless too.

Some scientist say there are alternate universes... I now feel as tho I should believe them.

Does Dr. Judy have videos on COVID 0-18?

 

[Circa]

From a literal sense, this isn't true. The stimulus checks were a tax credit that ends up being applied after all of the deductions you take. So if you're taxable income after deductions for yourself/kids etc. ends up being say 70K, this tax credit gets applied dollar for dollar to make your income $68,800. If your refund was going to be 2K before the credit, you'll still get your 2K tax refund. The IRS will just show that the "refund" amount you were eligible for is the 2K plus the $1200, so $3200. But since you got this check a month ago, that $1200 has already been taken out of your $3200 refund, hence why you would still get 2K in this scenario.

If you talking more in a broad sense, then I agree. Budget cuts and additional taxes are going to be needed somewhere down the road to make up for this.

I'm not sure If your completely correct, but I respect It. I live In a very impoverished area. People count on the child tax credit which equals 1200 dollars per kid. (at least It did 7 years ago... from what I can remember) So I think you can see what I'm upset about.

Those that are laid off can say I want taxes taken from my extra 600$ a week. But that Is considered unearned income and taxed at a very high rate 35-50% last time I checked.
Unearned Income is the highest tax their Is. They practically consider It lottery winnings.

Then, some have people that owe child support to me that don't pay anything... I still get taxed on their unearned income....

EDIT: Tax brackets have changed In the last year and a Half. I could be wrong. But there is a reason for the 1200.
Were Is this money coming from?

 

[Circa]

Does Dr. Judy have videos on COVID 0-18?

Yes. It got erased by big brother.

 

[TheRealLynch51]

I'm not sure If your completely correct, but I respect It. I live In a very impoverished area. People count on the child tax credit which equals 1200 dollars per kid. (at least It did 7 years ago... from what I can remember) So I think you can see what I'm upset about.

Those that are laid off can say I want taxes taken from my extra 600$ a week. But that Is considered unearned income and taxed at a very high rate 35-50% last time I checked.
Unearned Income is the highest tax their Is. They practically consider It lottery winnings.

Then you have gals that owe child support to me that don't pay anything... I still get taxed on their unearned income....

It's correct when it comes to the the actual application of the credit itself in a bubble (even with couples and kids) But I'll admit, I have no idea what happens when you add in unemployment/child support/unearned income.

 

[Circa]

It's correct when it comes to the the actual application of the credit itself in a bubble (even with couples and kids) But I'll admit, I have no idea what happens when you add in unemployment/child support/unearned income.

I'm not real sure what they are going to do myself. It's slippery and especially in the obvious election year.
I just hope the Fed can keep up and not keep screwing our system of Freedom up.

 

[Legacy]

State's Phased Re-Opening Plans by Start Date
(plus percentage of tests that are positive for the coronavirus)

 

[SonofOahu]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/unreleased-white-house-report-shows-coronavirus-rates-spiking-heartland-communities-n1204751?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_ma

This should go well.

 

[SonofOahu]

I don't see this as a personal treatment method as much as a sanitation of public spaces. IMO this is more a matter of reducing virus load in many areas. What if a "safe" level shining full time on the carts at the entrance reduces load by 20-30%? Is that not a worthwhile thing? If Walmart blasts the HVAC with UVC or blasts the whole building overnight - virus load will be less. Shut down public transit for 20 minutes and blast the UVC to disinfect surfaces quickly and easily.

Perfect is the enemy of good - which is my biggest problem with all of the hysteria.

Not everyone can afford the robots, though. Here's the Xenex homepage:

https://www.xenex.com/

I think these guys start at about $8K per. Also, viral transmission is mostly person-to-person via droplet aerosols. I would wager a bet that very little transmission is occurring from surface contact.

 

[SonofOahu]

He had the Navy ship and the Javet center as options to house the infected rather than expose the vulnerable. He CHOSE to expose the vulnerable because there’s no money in low mortality numbers...brother.

And CUOMO is the one who said EVERY life is precious. Brownie from the Hurricane Katrina debacle had more sense than this empty suit. But the media loves his pressers & watching his brother & him make out on CNN every night.

https://www.syracuse.com/coronavirus/2020/04/coronavirus-timeline-in-ny-heres-how-gov-cuomo-has-responded-to-covid-19-pandemic-since-january.html

It wasn't until 21 March that Javits was even listed as an option. By that time, there were 10,356 cases due to exponential growth:

March 21

10,356 total cases, 58 total deaths in New York

In an executive order, Cuomo closes all DMV in-office transactions. License and permit expirations are extended.

Read the order »

New York begins gathering ventilators from across the state to be sent to to the most critical areas.

Cuomo announces the first four sites recommended by the Army Corps of Engineers to be converted into Temporary Hospitals. They are the Jacob K. Javits Convention Center, and locations at SUNY Stony Brook, SUNY Old Westbury and the Westchester Convention Center.

It was around 3 April when it (Javits) opened: https://www.voanews.com/science-health/coronavirus-outbreak/covid-19-surges-ny-javits-center-starts-taking-infected

The letter you listed is dated 25 March. The guidance, by the way, is the same type of guidance that we received.

As Legacy discusses, above, it's not like you just release a patient into the wild, there are strict discharge protocols involved. What has to happen, however, is you have be assured (as the hospital) that you can d/c your patient somewhere. We had multiple "patient dumps" at our ER, because the post-acute facilities are not bound by the same regulations (EMTALA) that we are. Result: we get stuck with a patient that just sits in our acute bed.

It's a complex problem, with many moving parts and no easy solutions. So again, I ask you, what would you have done?

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

For years I thought California would be the first failed state in the union due to budget/ finances. I was wrong. Their elected officials might voluntarily destroy their economy.

Pretty sad to watch, and I think we're going to see a ton of people leave for Arizona and Texas.

https://www.businessinsider.com/los-angeles-county-stay-home-orders-end-july-2020-5

Los Angeles' stay-at-home order is likely to last in some form until the end of July

 

[Irish#1]

Found out yesterday one on my staff tested positive. she showed several symptoms prior to getting tested. Recent college graduate, she lives with her mom and has been working from home since March. Mother works in a nursing home and tested positive a week prior. My staff is set to return on the 18th. She won't be coming back into the office for at least another two weeks and gets a clean bill of health from her doctor.