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Anybody got a link to that guy's 37-0 covid mask? I can't find the post anywhere.
 

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In this day and age of the way people have decided to follow....


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GATTACA!

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What are you speaking of?

There was a link on here the other day to a Twitter post of a guy showing off his custom covid mask. It was a picture of the scoreboard after we beat Michigan 37-0. Can't find it anywhere though.
 

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I prefer to let science and health determine the proper course of action.



Irate and pissed off, too.

Sen. Kennedy slams acting DHS secretary for lack of coronavirus answers
BY NIV ELIS - 02/25/20 12:17 PM EST



DHS and HHS share responsibility for implementing the federal response to a pandemic. Seems more like the Three Stooges, Senator Kennedy.

A bipartisan Pandemic Preparedness and Response Act was passed in 2005 with appropriations, estimated costs of a pandemic and details for a federal response to minimize costs below that do not include "the economic effects of pandemic on commerce and society".

The Senate version,



Governors and Mayors of both parties are responsible for opening up businesses safely in their communities.

The following states have opened recently and numbers continue to go down. How's that for science?

Texas
Florida
Georgia
Tennessee
 

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The following states have opened recently and numbers continue to go down. How's that for science?

Texas
Florida
Georgia
Tennessee

Wait, what? Texas is definitely seeing an increase
https://abcnews.go.com/US/texas-cases-covid-19-increasing-thousands-reopening/story?id=70720497
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/article/Massive-jump-in-Texas-COVID-19-cases-15275484.php

Also it is too early to know the effects of reopening. Florida really doesn’t start a true reopening till Monday and even then they are keeping some of the more populous areas under stricter orders...
 

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Wait, what? Texas is definitely seeing an increase
https://abcnews.go.com/US/texas-cases-covid-19-increasing-thousands-reopening/story?id=70720497
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/article/Massive-jump-in-Texas-COVID-19-cases-15275484.php

Also it is too early to know the effects of reopening. Florida really doesn’t start a true reopening till Monday and even then they are keeping some of the more populous areas under stricter orders...

I don't have the historical data for Georgia/Tennessee, but active cases are increasing in Texas and Florida per https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/texas/.

Guys, here's a link you might enjoy (IHME model). You can toggle to each state. Shows actuals and projections in many areas. I particularly enjoyed the hospital capacity graph.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/georgia
 

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Florida had a 25% increase in deaths last week. Texas deaths were up 0.9% (the US as a whole was down 2.4%)
 

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Guys, here's a link you might enjoy (IHME model). You can toggle to each state. Shows actuals and projections in many areas. I particularly enjoyed the hospital capacity graph.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/georgia

The data viz on that model is really good, I really liked the lower projections for Georgia in particular since they started that model. I really wish it was more up to date though (data is current as of May 10th). Talking to a lot of people in Georgia (GF's family lives in the Atlanta area) seems like they're taking it seriously and doing a good job tackling it.
 

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The data viz on that model is really good, I really liked the lower projections for Georgia in particular since they started that model. I really wish it was more up to date though (data is current as of May 10th). Talking to a lot of people in Georgia (GF's family lives in the Atlanta area) seems like they're taking it seriously and doing a good job tackling it.

Updates lag about 5-7 days as they are waiting on official #s I believe. World Meters IIRC is unofficial.

What is interesting to me is that the confirmed infection rates in a lot of places are not rising, while at the same time, the amount of testing is steadily rising.

If you look through several states, it's a very strong arguments for some states (like TN) to reopen). Every city, county, state, etc. is different, and should be treated so. Especially those states with decreases (or very low) infection rate, PLUS low hospital utilization.

As far as impacts of reopening, there will be a 10-20ish day lag in case increases due to incubation rates.
 

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Florida had a 25% increase in deaths last week. Texas deaths were up 0.9% (the US as a whole was down 2.4%)

Not to sound insensitive, but deaths are a lagging indicator. We’re talking hospitalizations from pre-opening that are dying now.

Someone said Florida has gone up. That is wrong. Their total cases are down marginally which is very impressive considering they do the third most testing in the nation. The most important indicator, hospitalizations, are down significantly though. See here: https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/96dd742462124fa0b38ddedb9b25e429

Texas had a slight spike in cases, but proportional to their population combined with hospitalizations going down, I don’t think there is much concern there yet. Definitely something to monitor going forward if the hospitalizations don’t continue to dip.
 

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Updates lag about 5-7 days as they are waiting on official #s I believe. World Meters IIRC is unofficial.

What is interesting to me is that the confirmed infection rates in a lot of places are not rising, while at the same time, the amount of testing is steadily rising.

If you look through several states, it's a very strong arguments for some states (like TN) to reopen). Every city, county, state, etc. is different, and should be treated so. Especially those states with decreases (or very low) infection rate, PLUS low hospital utilization.

As far as impacts of reopening, there will be a 10-20ish day lag in case increases due to incubation rates.

That's interesting, I had always assumed it was based on when they updated the model. I've found World Meters tends to lag a couple hours or a full day to what the countries report (personally found Canada to be always 3-4 hours behind it).

100% with you on those points. The increase in tests and decrease in amount of positives per test is really good to see.

Yeah, Georgia will be a really good state to look at in terms of the best practices for reopening (seeing what works and what not).
 

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Florida had a 25% increase in deaths last week. Texas deaths were up 0.9% (the US as a whole was down 2.4%)

FL deaths are projected to keep rising till Jun 9ish. Yesterday's deaths (47) were down from last week (59) same time. Jun 9 is projected to be the peak at 71.

The death projections are likely a % of total infected in my opinion, so I kinda look at that graph a few weeks back to get a feeling of the death projections.
 

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That's interesting, I had always assumed it was based on when they updated the model. I've found World Meters tends to lag a couple hours or a full day to what the countries report (personally found Canada to be always 3-4 hours behind it).

100% with you on those points. The increase in tests and decrease in amount of positives per test is really good to see.

Yeah, Georgia will be a really good state to look at in terms of the best practices for reopening (seeing what works and what not).

A lot of folks outside GA think we're wide open or something. We're not. Only a few businesses have reopened and it's not like folks are racing out to them. Still pretty quiet. IMO, the biggest at risk areas are still the poorer areas where some are still ignoring SD rules.
 

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Cuomo playing games with the numbers.

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/peterjhasson/status/1261368038063869952[/TWEET]
 
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The rise in cases in Texas was mainly attributed to the $45 million program they started about a week ago to begin to test all of the inmates. Not because people ran out to get hair cuts for the first time in two months.

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/05/12/texas-prisons-coronavirus-testing/

Reminded me when we saw a rise here in California in the prisons because inmates were intentionally trying to contract the virus because Newsom was granting those with the virus an early release.

https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/202...intentionally-trying-to-contract-coronavirus/
 
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Cuomo playing games with the numbers.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: New York Admits Knowingly Undercounting Nursing Home Deaths After Quietly Changing Reporting Rules. <a href="https://twitter.com/AndrewKerrNC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AndrewKerrNC</a> reports: <a href="https://t.co/O6dULIzeuX">https://t.co/O6dULIzeuX</a></p>— Peter J. Hasson (@peterjhasson) <a href="https://twitter.com/peterjhasson/status/1261368038063869952?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So avg death age will get even higher and most will ignore that and focus on the fact that there are simply more deaths.
 

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Cuomo playing games with the numbers.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: New York Admits Knowingly Undercounting Nursing Home Deaths After Quietly Changing Reporting Rules. <a href="https://twitter.com/AndrewKerrNC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AndrewKerrNC</a> reports: <a href="https://t.co/O6dULIzeuX">https://t.co/O6dULIzeuX</a></p>— Peter J. Hasson (@peterjhasson) <a href="https://twitter.com/peterjhasson/status/1261368038063869952?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He went from Dem savior and potential prez candidate, to nursing home grim reaper in just a few months....
 

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So avg death age will get even higher and most will ignore that and focus on the fact that there are simply more deaths.

I think the deaths are being counted overall, they just aren't being counted in the nursing home and long term care facility number subset.

Pretty transparent what they are trying to do. The policy in New York was a disaster.
 

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Sounds like New Yorker's are over the lock down. Photos all over twitter from last night. Looked more like Mardi Gras.

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2020...e-upper-east-side-turned-into-bourbon-street/

I saw a lot of that stuff. The strict states look to be having a lot more fun than the more open states lol....

My fav was this tweet

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">People are hitting the bar in Ocean City, Maryland with these giant intertube contraptions for social distancing. <a href="https://t.co/o6OyvdLyPR">pic.twitter.com/o6OyvdLyPR</a></p>— brandon wenerd (@brandonwenerd) <a href="https://twitter.com/brandonwenerd/status/1262145621735153666?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 17, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

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I saw a lot of that stuff. The strict states look to be having a lot more fun than the more open states lol....

My fav was this tweet

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">People are hitting the bar in Ocean City, Maryland with these giant intertube contraptions for social distancing. <a href="https://t.co/o6OyvdLyPR">pic.twitter.com/o6OyvdLyPR</a></p>— brandon wenerd (@brandonwenerd) <a href="https://twitter.com/brandonwenerd/status/1262145621735153666?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 17, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This looks like fun? It's as If we are learning to walk like a baby?... It's demeaning. But I guess kids like the way this Is working out.
 

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I saw a lot of that stuff. The strict states look to be having a lot more fun than the more open states lol....

My fav was this tweet

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">People are hitting the bar in Ocean City, Maryland with these giant intertube contraptions for social distancing. <a href="https://t.co/o6OyvdLyPR">pic.twitter.com/o6OyvdLyPR</a></p>— brandon wenerd (@brandonwenerd) <a href="https://twitter.com/brandonwenerd/status/1262145621735153666?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 17, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That's awesome to see our area on the news. That bar is always a fun place to go.
 

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My posts on the meat packing industry in Grand Island, Nebr and the prison population in Ohio, and the Navajo reservation in NM and Ariz as well as the discussion on the NHs in NY and NJ shows the hotspots that contribute to overall state numbers. The western counties in NM account for a third of the total state's positive cases. Austin is still at the stay at home stage as is Gallup and other places. I believe there are outbreaks in the migrant detention facilities for children. DC may still be, too. Austin has plans to shutdown again should the need arise.

The asymptomatic rates on the USS Roosevelt (60% in two weeks) and a prison in Kansas (86%) may indicate the lesser symptomatic impact on a younger group. I don't see much of a problem with releasing the older prison population, those more vulnerable with multiple medical conditions, those that pose no criminal threat or those nearing parole hearings, which may not be held due to restrictions. The usual procedure with a prisoner who develops severe enough symptoms to be hospitalized is to have a guard outside the room should they pose a risk twenty-four hours. That exposes the guard to the conditions healthcare workers face daily. So, I doubt many prisoners are hospitalized outside the facilities.

I do wonder about the average age of those hospitalized and those in the ICUs are. I expect the elderly will go downhill quickly. I imagine the average age for those hospitalized is lower than the those overall both in positive cases and mortality rate.

One issue may be that in a metropolitan area like DC, Maryland and Virginia states and the city may have different schedules for reopening with many residents in the states feeding into DC for the federal jobs via commuter rail. Workers from meatpacking companies shut down may just go down a highway or interstate to one that is open and hiring.
 
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