College Athletics Branding - Name Image Likeness Rules

[Irish#1]

Dabo is pissed because he no longer has an advantage with the new spring church

First thing I thought when I read his comments is he won't be able to compete with a lot of the top dogs when it comes to NIL. So, show everyone how concerned he is with the student/athlete and win the PR battle.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

This. Clemsons donor base and marketable opportunities are minuscule compared to the weight class they have been in the last five years.

We'll see how their recruiting classes play out in the next few years.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Bitches bitch
Men take action

If Dabo believes what he is saying let him go full tilt Elon Musk and put up some money.

Start a

"Coaches for sanity in NIL" Not for profit. Invite his fellow coaches to chip in.. Show leadership and testosterone.

Otherwise............

No coach in college football is capable of taking over the NCAA or legislating NIL laws since they differ by state. He isn't alone in his message about the downside of NIL and schools buying high schoolers. Gundy and Saban have echoed the same sentiment, and those are just the ones who are willing to speak on it publicly. There are others.

When the guy he says he opposes anything that devalues the education, I see that as leadership and support it.

 

[IrishLax]

 

[IrishLion]

No coach in college football is capable of taking over the NCAA or legislating NIL laws since they differ by state. He isn't alone in his message about the downside of NIL and schools buying high schoolers. Gundy and Saban have echoed the same sentiment, and those are just the ones who are willing to speak on it publicly. There are others.

When the guy he says he opposes anything that devalues the education, I see that as leadership and support it.

He doesn't care about the education being devalued, that's just lip service. He's just annoyed that he has to try and manage a payroll if he wants to keep going to the college football playoff, and he has to do it after having told the world he would quit coaching if players started getting paid to play football.

When asked about his own contract, he talks about the free market... but the free market does not extend to players for Dabo.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

He doesn't care about the education being devalued, that's just lip service. He's just annoyed that he has to try and manage a payroll if he wants to keep going to the college football playoff, and he has to do it after having told the world he would quit coaching if players started getting paid to play football.

When asked about his own contract, he talks about the free market... but the free market does not extend to players for Dabo.

Exactly Right. Dabo is 100% NOT in the players corner for paying them. He is upset because now he has to compete in a free market for players. He has zero problems being paid what he is paid because of the free market value for coaches.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Wondering if this turns into a billion dollar NIL "Endowment"

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

He doesn't care about the education being devalued, that's just lip service. He's just annoyed that he has to try and manage a payroll if he wants to keep going to the college football playoff, and he has to do it after having told the world he would quit coaching if players started getting paid to play football.

When asked about his own contract, he talks about the free market... but the free market does not extend to players for Dabo.

No coach in college should have to manage a payroll and hopefully we get our arms wrapped around this NIL stuff and what it's supposed to be for. D1 head coaches are overseeing multi million dollar organizations, so let the market be what it is. I've got no beef there. In the meantime, look around college football. The teams with the biggest collectives and promising the most money are doing so because they're desperate.

It's not Bama, OSU, or Georgia, and not Clemson. It's mediocre teams like A&M and Tennessee, USC, Penn State. I'll reiterate...let's see how this all shakes out in the next few years. Dabo is 100% spot on in that a lot of poor decisions will be made for short term gain and even more kids are going to be on the short end. He's 100% right that only 2% of college players are going pro. Whether you graduate from ND, Northwestern, or Louisiana Tech...having a four year degree is better than no degree (more often that not).

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

We'll see how their recruiting classes play out in the next few years.

It will not be on par with previous years. Outside of the 864 area code there are little to no NIL marketable opportunities except for a couple of elite players …. Maybe….Dabo knows this.

I do remember last year The DJ was put on a Dr. Pepper commercial around here but it lasted just two weeks because he was struggling so bad the first couple games. Never saw those commercials again. I can’t imagine Dr. Pepper does that again. I don’t know what agreement was but I’d assume it was for more than two weeks of slots. I’d also imagine that if he had a good season those commercials would have run more than two weeks. Dabo doesn’t have anything to do with that really. He isn’t putting Dr. Pepper in front of DJ. Likely that has to happen via a non team affiliated agent or third party.

 

[notredomer23]

Pay Dante his damn money

 

[DCDomer]

Pay Dante his damn money

Any guesses who this quote is from?

Mine is Narduzzi. He loves to talk and he is bitter about everything that isn't going Pitt's way

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Pay Dante his damn money

Bet that Power 5 coach quote is Dabo...

 

[TorontoGold]

Bet that Power 5 coach quote is Dabo...

Anytime Dabo complains about people buying players

 

[Rockin’Irish]

It appears NBC Sports is partnering with ND (and Vandy/Temple) for NIL opportunities with their advertisers.

 

[GATTACA!]

Anytime Dabo complains about people buying players

Dabo when he realized he's going to be outspent by every real blue blood.

 

[Irish#1]

It appears NBC Sports is partnering with ND (and Vandy/Temple) for NIL opportunities with their advertisers.

Huge

 

[stlnd01]

Perhaps being independent with our own TV contract has its advantages after all.

 

[TNUtoNotreDame]

Perhaps being independent with our own TV contract has its advantages after all.

It does, ND just needs to get out of their own way.

 

[notredomer23]

 

[TNUtoNotreDame]

 

[IrishLax]

I thought that this quote from The Athletic was interesting:

A lot of people around college sports are sitting around waiting/hoping for someone to step in and punish the schools/collectives seen as brazenly violating the rules against recruiting inducements. I would not be holding their breath. Attempting to limit financial competition for athletes is how we got here in the first place. The NCAA had nearly seven years from the original Ed O'Bannon court decision to develop an orderly, equitable model to share NIL revenue with its athletes. Instead, membership spent hundreds of millions in legal fees defending a losing cause only to get thoroughly repudiated by the Supreme Court. In doing so, they have inadvertently ceded control of the recruiting market to these third-party collectives that they're powerless to regulate.

Basically, Mark Emmert and his cronies killed college sports out of hubris and greed. All they had to do was establish global guidelines for licensing of players' NIL instead of punt on the topic. But instead they lit hundreds of millions of dollars on fire fighting a losing case... when they could've just given that money to the athletes instead........

 

[stlnd01]

I thought that this quote from The Athletic was interesting:


Basically, Mark Emmert and his cronies killed college sports out of hubris and greed. All they had to do was establish global guidelines for licensing of players' NIL instead of punt on the topic. But instead they lit hundreds of millions of dollars on fire fighting a losing case... when they could've just given that money to the athletes instead........

Seriously. A cut of video game and jersey revenue, maybe not freaking out about unionization talk, and none of this happens.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

F*ck this guy and his cheap toupee. Deserves far more hate than he gets.

 

[NDPhilly]

Rep for Miami star Wong: Better NIL deal or exit

Miami star basketball player holding out for more money or stating he will transfer.

College sports are absolutely fucked.

 

[Irish4life]

 

[Dale]

Rep for Miami star Wong: Better NIL deal or exit

Miami star basketball player holding out for more money or stating he will transfer.

College sports are absolutely fucked.

Why should a player that can make 6 figures in the G league right now at worst not make the appropriate 6 figures in college if he chooses to stay?

 

[Irish#1]

Rep for Miami star Wong: Better NIL deal or exit

Miami star basketball player holding out for more money or stating he will transfer.

College sports are absolutely fucked.

From his agent

"If Isaiah and his family don't feel that the NIL number meets their expectations "they" will be entering the transfer portal tomorrow, while maintaining his eligibility in the NBA draft and going through the draft process"

"They will be entering the portal"? This smacks of the family calling the shots and using a little blackmail. So much for contracts and commitments.

 

[Irish#1]

Why should a player that can make 6 figures in the G league right now at worst not make the appropriate 6 figures in college if he chooses to stay?

Then go to the G league. Every kid has the right to try and earn what they want, but not going about it this way.

 

[irishandy]

College sports are absolutely fucked.

Well said-- I don't know if you are for or against the NIL era. What are these kids going to do if they cannot play their sport professionally? There is no transfer portal after college.

 

[IrishLax]

Rep for Miami star Wong: Better NIL deal or exit

Miami star basketball player holding out for more money or stating he will transfer.

College sports are absolutely fucked.

The real problem is their "representation" plus immediate eligibility. If you get rid of immediate eligibility, it'll stop a lot of the nonsense and tampering in its tracks, but right now kids have major financial incentive to put themselves on the auction block after a good freshman year.

Their "representation" is pushing these kids to only look at the NIL check that they can cash. The agent gets a 10% cut so do you think they'd ever advise a kid "hey go to Stanford, it's your best long term decision" versus "yeah I know that Western Kentucky doesn't have the best academics, but they're offering you $50k! take the money!" It's lunacy. All these agents want is a payday.

What I've heard with ND is that one of the reasons ND is having success right now (in addition to Freeman and this staff being great... and we'll see if it stays this way come signing day) is that in the NIL era a lot of kids/families are really starting to see the big picture that ND has always tried to sell. "This degree is worth $350k, you'll make $X in your career outside of football when you graduate, and here is what guys are making in NIL" actually resonates pretty well versus crappy state schools that are like "yeah our school is cheap and bad, but we'll give you $400k up front". So the same value ND has always pitched is starting to have broader appeal and you have better people delivering the message... more people are looking at it like a business decision now. Are you going to turn down MILLIONS from Tennessee if you're looking out for your pocket book first? Nah, probably not. And some kids really want that up front guaranteed money.

I do worry about classes from '23 onwards getting on campus though and being induced to transfer because ND isn't locking people in with NIL contracts how an A&M or someone else does.