College Athletics Branding - Name Image Likeness Rules

[Cackalacky2.0]

Chasing autographs will be for middle schoolers. The most savviest and capital rich high school athletes will be coming out with their own brands of clothing and hosting social media supported events allowing vendors to hock their wares just like the motherfuckin Catalina wine mixer event.

Apparently we are not quite there yet and chasing autographs is for reclassifiers. lol

 

[Irish#1]

I think we are going to look back on NIL 5 to 10 years from now and realize stuff like this wasn’t necessarily good for the sport, I don’t blame guys for getting paid but I can see some high level guys that were sure things flame out due to distractions. That already happens a lot but I just don’t see this being good for the sport overall

In 5 - 10 years, it probably won't even resemble what it does today.

 

[Irish#1]

Chasing autographs will be for middle schoolers. The most savviest and capital rich high school athletes will be coming out with their own brands of clothing and hosting social media supported events allowing vendors to hock their wares just like the motherfuckin Catalina wine mixer event.

Not doubting that it will happen, I have to wonder how successful this will be? HS athletes are pretty localized, so the only true audience they have is their HS. Don't see many from other HS's in the area rushing to buy clothes from a kid at a neighboring HS. When they get to college, it will expand some for the really good athletes, but the you have the chance that they may be a bust in college as already mentioned.

 

[BrownerandFry]

Not doubting that it will happen, I have to wonder how successful this will be? HS athletes are pretty localized, so the only true audience they have is their HS. Don't see many from other HS's in the area rushing to buy clothes from a kid at a neighboring HS. When they get to college, it will expand some for the really good athletes, but the you have the chance that they may be a bust in college as already mentioned.

Your judgement seems sound here.

Not many will have much success. But the really prized recruits will be.
https://www.si.com/nba/2021/07/22/mikey-williams-nil-deal-excel-sports

Basketball, at the high school level has been pimped up since the days of Landon "sonny" Cox at MLK in chicago, who found a willing helper in Nike.

But Mikey Williams is bypassing both the high school system and the whole corrupt one and done shticik.

In Lexington, KY, the "One and done" is a misnomer, as frosh Wildcats going pro stop going to class around Groundhog Day.

The one thing you can count on with pimps. They seem to focus on the high priced hookers.

After this Sycamore debacle, why should Mikey Williams not "get his?"

 

[clashmore_mike]

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/mattfreemanISD/status/1448758629453213703?s=20[/TWEET]

 

[BrownerandFry]

I hope Spencer Rattler got paid up front!

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/JPaschalx/status/1463173873856303117?s=20[/TWEET]
This is really good lol

 

[IrishLion]

NIL is destroying college athletics...

Jk. Most of the stuff is small, lighthearted, fun ways for college kids to make some extra cash while helping out local businesses.

There will always be star players making too much money based on ROI, but these other guys cashing in like this is what makes it a good decision overall.

The NCAA spent 75+ years fighting back against some lineman making money off of their love for food... or some skilled athletes using their money to give back to their community (shoutout to that RB from scUM)... or a random walkon from Kansas using Applebees to troll the entire state of Texas after a once-in-a-lifetime game-winning catch.

 

[BrownerandFry]

Ewers collected a cool millio from NIL. Now he,s gone. I think he made more per pass attempt tha Mahomes or Allen. Now? Goodbye Columbus!

 

[irishff1014]

Ewers collected a cool millio from NIL. Now he,s gone. I think he made more per pass attempt tha Mahomes or Allen. Now? Goodbye Columbus!

So he does get to keep that?

 

[GATTACA!]

Ewers collected a cool millio from NIL. Now he,s gone. I think he made more per pass attempt tha Mahomes or Allen. Now? Goodbye Columbus!

Well he didn't attempt a single pass IIRC, so yes he's have to be #1.

 

[GATTACA!]

So he does get to keep that?

I read somewhere that the stipulation is that he has to play a certain percentage of snaps next season to keep it. No idea if that meant specifically for OSU or just in general.

 

[irishff1014]

I read somewhere that the stipulation is that he has to play a certain percentage of snaps next season to keep it. No idea if that meant specifically for OSU or just in general.

Thanks. I am gonna need to read up more on this.

 

[greyhammer90]

I read somewhere that the stipulation is that he has to play a certain percentage of snaps next season to keep it. No idea if that meant specifically for OSU or just in general.

Pretty sure NIL rules don't permit for any payment to based on on-field performance. Maybe somebody found a creative way around that, but I'm pretty sure that would be considered "pay for play" which isn't permitted.

 

[BrownerandFry]

I read somewhere that the stipulation is that he has to play a certain percentage of snaps next season to keep it. No idea if that meant specifically for OSU or just in general.

Well, I hope that is the case.

And what I want for Christmas (our family has eschewed gift exchange for over 30 years) is for the University of we lost to the only two good teams we played (Oregon and Michigan) to come after Ewers with legislative vengeance. Perhaps they can deploy Sydney Powell and Joe DiNova to go after Ewers.

I may have to buy more Orville Redenbacher popcorn to watch that one.

Sue the bastard, Buckeyes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Irish#1]

From si.com

Looks like some UT boosters are getting serious about getting back on the right track.

New NIL Program To Give Texas Offensive Lineman $50K To Play In Austin

Texas Football

is getting a boost from sponsors next season thanks to the Name, Image and Likeness program set by the NCAA.

Horns with Heart, a nonprofit charity organization based in Austin, will provide every Texas offensive linemen on scholarship with $50,000 annually as part of a new NIL program. This is the latest in a series of launches by Longhorns boosters and supporters in hopes of helping with recruiting and bringing more names towards the program.

The program is set to be named The Pancake Factory, in large part due to blocks set by offensive linemen when trying to open running lanes. It will be the first of its kind, supporting just one football position group for players to participate in charitable endeavors.

The Pancake Factory is set to begin August 1, 2022, with a total of $800,000 annually earmarked for the offensive line sponsorship. This, along with the Clark Field Collective, another company sponsoring Texas players, means each Texas OL will be making at least $150,000 per season.

The NIL deal began earlier this season, where players were able to sign with companies and organizations, representing them or their products as sponsors. Several Texas players currently are on deals, including running back Bijan Robinson, who recently agreed to terms with DAZN boxing earlier this month.

The $50,000 set by The Pancake Factory is merely just the starting figure for players who come to the Forty Acres. Other deals are certainly in place, but the Pancake Factory will not sponsor it as of this time.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

So boosters create a charity just for 1 position group and will pay over $1 mil per season to OL players? ND better catch up. Free bbq aint gonna cut it

 

[BrownerandFry]

So boosters create a charity just for 1 position group and will pay over $1 mil per season to OL players? ND better catch up. Free bbq aint gonna cut it

Or Notre Dame must decide whether it wants to be a Catholic University

or the most Catholic pimp in what is becoming a whore's game

You can't have two first priorities

And it neither irrational nor inconsistent with the message of Christ (if that matters to people on this board) to announce that Notre Dame will no longer participate in the runaway train/arms race.

Remember, you are warned. NIL is not 6 months old.

Texas and A&M are in an arms race in Texas

And Lincoln Riley went to USC because they can unleash Hollywood and entertainment bucks for NIL

There was a question asked 2,000 years ago.

"What doth it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul>"

Does Notre Dame still have a soul?

 

[Riddickulous]

Didn't Swarbrick say ND would be "aggressive" with NIL or something to that effect?

 

[SouthSideChiDomer]

So boosters create a charity just for 1 position group and will pay over $1 mil per season to OL players? ND better catch up. Free bbq aint gonna cut it

I said this in another thread. ND should be looking into something similar. We might not have the mega-rich boosters like the football factories just because we have fewer alumni, but we have a ton of people that aren't exactly living paycheck to paycheck. I believe ND has one of the highest rates of alumni donations of any university. We should be tapping into that and bring a ton of small contributions together to make a bigger impact.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Didn't Swarbrick say ND would be "aggressive" with NIL or something to that effect?

He did. He also said that Kelly would win a title at ND.

 

[irishff1014]

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/TimShep_/status/1468714092588376070?s=20[/TWEET]

Sorry i put the wrong tweet on here. Not sure who he is or how accurate he is.

 

[ab2cmiller]

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/TimShep_/status/1465769128065736706?s=20[/TWEET]

The world has gone crazy.

 

[NDdomer2]

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/TimShep_/status/1468714092588376070?s=20[/TWEET]

Sorry i put the wrong tweet on here. Not sure who he is or how accurate he is.

And those 3 schools surprise absolutely no one.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/saturdaygameday/status/1470168520214339585?s=21[/TWEET]

 

[NDohio]

The Andy Staples Show podcast had Brandon Wimbush on last week. They went fairly deep into NIL and even touched on ND's approach to it. I'm not a big Andy Staples fan but listened because of Wimbush. It is worth a listen.

 

[Dale]

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/finebaum/status/1471227230659530761?s=21[/TWEET]

One line and a laugh can say so much

 

[stpeteirish]

The NIL stuff is already out of control, it didn't take long. The NCAA (cough, cough) needs to do something. There has to be a cap or some form of limitation by school or else the SEC schools will simply price the rest of us out of the market.

The "let the market decide" approach won't work, there's too much money out there.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

The NIL stuff is already out of control, it didn't take long. The NCAA (cough, cough) needs to do something. There has to be a cap or some form of limitation by school or else the SEC schools will simply price the rest of us out of the market.

The "let the market decide" approach won't work, there's too much money out there.

The courts took this issue out of the NCAAs hands. If I were the NCAA I'd sit back and watch it all go bananas. Free market baby!

 

[Dale]

The NIL stuff is already out of control, it didn't take long. The NCAA (cough, cough) needs to do something. There has to be a cap or some form of limitation by school or else the SEC schools will simply price the rest of us out of the market.

The "let the market decide" approach won't work, there's too much money out there.

money will always find its way into the pockets that want it. We are just seeing it over the table now.