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IrishLax

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Who here on IE is a coach? Anything from youth sports for your kids to full time job counts.
 

Ndaccountant

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Youth sports for my young kids. Disappointed that BIKE shorts are not around anymore.....such a staple.
 

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I coached my sister (high school) and both daughters in softball (youth)... I've coached high school football as well.

I... lost the love for it and really don't see myself coaching in the future.
 

Irishize

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I currently coach USSSA baseball for my 13-y/o son’s team. I have also coached his flag football teams for four years.
 

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I help coach my son's competitive soccer team

Coached his youth teams for years
 

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I coached little kids basketball for 5 years (3-6 grade), coached volleyball for 6 years (8th grade thru JV), was a QB coach for high school for 10 years and also coached golf for 4 years. No time to coach anymore.
 

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I coached high school rugby for 30 years. Also helped coach the provincial team which has now produced some full Irish rugby internationals. After 30 years of wet dark Thursday evening I gave up and now just supervise the weights room.
 

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Basketball, football, and baseball.

Every age group at some point from 5-18

Hands down my favorite coaching is here with Special Olymics in Rhode Island.
 
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Beau coaches.

Beau knows coaches.

Been coaching football since I was a junior in high school. (I'm now 24.) I was coaching youth league then.

For the past 6 years I've been in charge of a successful junior high program and an assistant to a successful high school program, Monroe Central. Our varsity is currently headed to semi state after having a football program for less than a decade.
 

IrishLax

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Alright so question for the group (and basically why I started the thread)...

How do you guys manage the parents? Especially the helicopter ones, or ones who want their kid to emphasize something other than the sport? I'm talking HS level, so more serious than a rec league but obviously not scholarship players or anything like that.
 

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I’m a current strength and conditioning coach but have coached Lax and Football as well
 
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Alright so question for the group (and basically why I started the thread)...

How do you guys manage the parents? Especially the helicopter ones, or ones who want their kid to emphasize something other than the sport? I'm talking HS level, so more serious than a rec league but obviously not scholarship players or anything like that.

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Alright so question for the group (and basically why I started the thread)...

How do you guys manage the parents? Especially the helicopter ones, or ones who want their kid to emphasize something other than the sport? I'm talking HS level, so more serious than a rec league but obviously not scholarship players or anything like that.

So what’s the goal?

How competitive? Do you ensure playing time for all regardless of talent or do the best ones start and play the majority of the time w/ the rest being role players?

How much monetary investment from each family?

How much time investment for all involved?

Are you donating your time & efforts or being compensated in any way?

For youth sports, the Matheny Manifesto was popular to use w/ delusional or naive parents but if your team is HS aged it may not be necessary.

http://mikematheny.com/sites/default/files/docs/MathenyManifesto.pdf

Without knowing the answers to the above questions, my best advice is to lay out your expectations early with every parent present so you can state your goals & rules loud & clear. Print a copy out to hand to parents for future referenc eif you have to, but set the tone ASAP.

Best of luck!
 

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Alright so question for the group (and basically why I started the thread)...

How do you guys manage the parents? Especially the helicopter ones, or ones who want their kid to emphasize something other than the sport? I'm talking HS level, so more serious than a rec league but obviously not scholarship players or anything like that.

Set clear boundaries/polices, have them in writing, distribute them to each parent and discuss them in at a manditory meeting prior to the beginning of the season with all of the parents and players present.

Or bring in the two dudes in the latest video from the Post Game Miami thread.
 

IrishLax

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So what’s the goal?

How competitive? Do you ensure playing time for all regardless of talent or do the best ones start and play the majority of the time w/ the rest being role players?

How much monetary investment from each family?

How much time investment for all involved?

Are you donating your time & efforts or being compensated in any way?

For youth sports, the Matheny Manifesto was popular to use w/ delusional or naive parents but if your team is HS aged it may not be necessary.

http://mikematheny.com/sites/default/files/docs/MathenyManifesto.pdf

Without knowing the answers to the above questions, my best advice is to lay out your expectations early with every parent present so you can state your goals & rules loud & clear. Print a copy out to hand to parents for future referenc eif you have to, but set the tone ASAP.

Best of luck!

Paid, so I have a boss and am technically a public school employee. This is not my full time job, this is something I agreed to take on because I was asked and because I thought it might be fun. And I definitely do enjoy it.

Anyways, I've heard horror stories of people demanding someone be fired for everything from cursing to pushing kids too hard in conditioning to "playing favorites" to you name it. So with the start of the season around the corner I thought this would be a good time to ask because I'm brand new to this.

But honestly, the biggest issue I'm getting a vibe of at my school is actually kids/parents wanting to put commitment to the team all the way down the priority list. I don't know if this is a millennial thing or what... or what everyone else here has experienced in their coaching roles. But I was shown email chains from last year when an attendance policy was put in that are cringeworthy.
 
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Type a letter that includes your school's expectations, and then include your own. Get it approved by the AD and then have an informational meeting with the parents prior to, or at the very beginning of the season. Include everything from grades, to behavior, to attendance, to playing time and be open/honest about it with parents. Have a zero tolerance/policy with everything on there and most parents seem to respect that.
 

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But honestly, the biggest issue I'm getting a vibe of at my school is actually kids/parents wanting to put commitment to the team all the way down the priority list. I don't know if this is a millennial thing or what... or what everyone else here has experienced in their coaching roles. But I was shown email chains from last year when an attendance policy was put in that are cringeworthy.

You mean team success is of less concern to them than prepping them for the next level?

If so, one approach is to just meet that attitude head-on and tell them that you’ve got it under control. My alma mater is a small Catholic school in KY, so DI athletes used to be few and far between. However, starting three years ago, they’ve actually had an impressive run of kids getting DI offers/interest.

Now, three years later, the parents have been poisoned by the extreme luck/fortune of a few really good players, and they all think their kids are about to start getting love from a bunch of different colleges. Janice thinks her son Billy - 5’8”; 160 lbs; plays receiver and corner in a rotation; runs a 4.7 if he’s lucky - is going to get letters from UC. If he doesn’t start bringing them home during summer practice, it must be because the coach isn’t doing what he needs to do in order to network, send out films, and facilitate offers.

So now, the coach just gets a bunch of pamphlets from local schools, everything from NAIA to DI, and hands them out at a meeting to start the season. He says, “you’re son will get offered if he’s playing winning football, so that’s our main goal. We want to win State. If you’re son is doing his job and helping this program win, coaches will find him, and I’ll do what needs to be done in terms of films and visits.”

He just masks their desires behind the success of the team to mitigate the general crowd and thin the heard of phone calls, which gives him more time to deal with the BIG problem parents (and to help the one or two ACTUAL studs on the team get recruited). Just tell the parents a bit of what they want to hear, and keep coaching the kids up on the actual goals of the team.
 

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LAX,
Tried to send you a PM but it says your inbox is full....Clear some of that out...
 
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Set clear boundaries/polices, have them in writing, distribute them to each parent and discuss them in at a manditory meeting prior to the beginning of the season with all of the parents and players present.

Or bring in the two dudes in the latest video from the Post Game Miami thread.
I have not coached at any level but I have been a Cub Scout Pack master for three years. I can unequivaocably say that the parents are worse than the boys. Especially when I am trying to teach something like using cast iron on a fire or how to search for usable firewood.

But I want to echo the above by Bluto... set CLEAR boundaries and guidelines so you have something to fall on when things inevitably hit the fan. I had to basically "fire" a volunteer den leader (also a parent of the boy in the den) becasue they were so overbearing about doing things that boys were quitting scouting completely. I knew I would have to get the councils's approval and also have our charter rep on board with me before I could make a move. Luckily I had my rules and guidelines to fall back on which the council had approved and I was able to have the council and charter rep sign off on this person's removal from active leadership.

Scouts are a bit more informal regarding leadership than sports coaching or what you are doing but you have to draw a line, make sure everyone knows where that line is and stick to it.
 
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