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WVU has lost two in a row and is now 3-5. They go to Iowa State this weekend.

South Florida has lost six in a row and is now 1-7 so they cannot likely make a bowl.
 

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When does the SEC change their scheduling model? When Texas and OU join? Auburn’s been in scheduling hell the last few years with the SEC West and cross division Georgia.
 

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What keeps Lane at Ole Miss? Lane imported a team into Ole Miss just this year via the portal, for no reason other than he can. He openly laments Ole Miss funding compared to the rest of the SEC when it comes to recruiting and assistant coaches. He complains about attendance. All the shots he takes at the top dogs playing the lowly underdog may not be as funny to Ole Miss fans soon.
 

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When does the SEC change their scheduling model? When Texas and OU join? Auburn’s been in scheduling hell the last few years with the SEC West and cross division Georgia.
I'm sure the scheduling model will have to change once TEX and OK join, but to what extent and how, nobody knows yet. Personally, I'm strongly in favor of the 4 Pod model. As for Auburn and their current scheduling, they want UGA as their permanent cross division rival. That's one of the oldest annual rivalries in CFB and UGA is almost as big of a traditional rival to them as Bama is. Granted, playing Bama, A&M, Ole Miss, LSU, and UGA every year is brutal right now (or has been lately), but all those programs cycle up & down and many years most of them are mediocre to bad.
 

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Coached 21 games.

Auburn has problems. Auburn has deep-seated, institutional problems and it's hard to see them getting everything sorted out anytime soon. I can't think of a program more inclined to take short-term solutions to long-term problems, succumb to civil war within their power structure, and shoot themselves in the foot over and over than Auburn. It is probably the most dysfunctional program and cultish fanbase in CFB. I don't know who they'll hire, but I'm confident it will involve stepping on their own genitalia, causing their various booster factions to go to war against each other, and cause their fanbase to declare whoever it is as the greatest hire in CFB history and start counting the imaginary championships they're "absolutely guaranteed" to win.
 

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Why not wait for Florida State? He's got a better shot at winning there anyway.

Auburn should tell Sankey to go pound sand and hire Hugh Freeze.
I think Freeze is the best candidate out there for Auburn too, but I think he just signed a big new contract with Liberty this week, which would make it difficult for Auburn to hire him, even without the Sankey issues.
 

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I think Freeze is the best candidate out there for Auburn too, but I think he just signed a big new contract with Liberty this week, which would make it difficult for Auburn to hire him, even without the Sankey issues.
I agree with where you are coming from, but those extensions are easy to get around.

Auburn has already thrown an absurd amount of money at firings. What's buying out Freeze at Liberty if he's the guy they want?

 

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Hiring Miss St AD tells me the PTB is going all in on Mullen. Lane has a better job at Ole Miss and if he ever wants to get to Bama he knows he has to pass on the Barn.
Such an Auburn move. Hire the guy that crashed out of Florida. That'll get it done.

It's such another buy low move for them.
 

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I wonder if Auburn would go after Matt Campbell. An good coach. I thing special but there will be no drama.

James Franklin’s name normally comes up in these topics as well. Can recruit ok but struggles to coach at times.
 

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I wonder if Auburn would go after Matt Campbell. An good coach. I thing special but there will be no drama.

James Franklin’s name normally comes up in these topics as well. Can recruit ok but struggles to coach at times.
Matt Campbell wouldn't touch Auburn with a ten-foot pole. And why would Franklin? I'm sure they'll pay well but Auburn is not really that good a job. Brutal schedule, awful booster situation, second fiddle to Bama in your own state. Why would you leave Penn State, or Tennessee right now, or even Ole Miss for that? I suspect they end up with a southern G5 coach in the end. Or Dan Mullen.
 

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Such an Auburn move. Hire the guy that crashed out of Florida. That'll get it done.

It's such another buy low move for them.
I personally would love it. Mullen doesn’t like recruiting and his in game decision making was questionable his last year or two.
It will be interesting to see how Auburn goes with the hire. Nobody saw the Harsin hire and I think the Barn tries to go with the safest hire they can. That’s why I don’t think Prime Time is in play. Can’t see the PTB giving him the keys to the program. Then again it’s Auburn so who really knows.
 

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Bryan Harsin spent one year at Arkansas state. You can throw in the two years at Texas before that if you want, but he had virtually zero experience recruiting in the Southeast. It was a bad fit on paper and he coached 21 games before being fired.

And the solution to his is replacing Brian Harsin with Matt Campbell?
 

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You can still win a Natty at Auburn. There is only so many schools you can say that. Better job than given credit for. Best job on the market if you really wanna win, and not close.
 

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You can still win a Natty at Auburn. There is only so many schools you can say that. Better job than given credit for. Best job on the market if you really wanna win, and not close.
I believe you can win at Auburn but putting up with Yellow Wood and crew makes it hard. I don’t see Campbell as an option simply because I think they will stick with someone with a bit more southern roots this go round.
 

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The right portal guys and JUCOs until you build the recruiting base back up. This is a tough job for sure with a lot of outside influences, but still a job you can compete for Nattys with. Is Rhule an option here? Had no roots in Texas but built that up quick at Baylor. Going to be interesting.
 

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The right portal guys and JUCOs until you build the recruiting base back up. This is a tough job for sure with a lot of outside influences, but still a job you can compete for Nattys with. Is Rhule an option here? Had no roots in Texas but built that up quick at Baylor. Going to be interesting.

Good call on Rhule.
 

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“You can win a Natty there” feels like a trap. You can win a natty if you can buy a Cam Newton. But buying a Cam Newton is harder now that buying kids is above board. Auburn’s cheat code now belongs to Tennessee.

Beyond that? You can get some good players but at least until Saban retires you’re #2 in your own state and looking up at four or five SEC programs - several of which you’ll play annually - with more firepower. I’d rather be LSU or A&M or even Tennessee right now.

Then throw in the lack of “alignment,” which is legendary at this point. It’s knives out at all times. Maybe this will be a quiet cycle at the high end, and this is the “best” job that comes open. But personally I don’t think it’s a top 20 or 25 job in college football and guys like Kiffin and Lanning would be nuts to leave what they’ve got to take it.
 

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This will never happen and it’s really more of just a hypothetical, but I think the best fit for Auburn would be Jim Harbaugh. Obviously he wouldn’t be afraid of Saban and wouldn’t take nonsense from boosters.

Actually now that I think about it. Since the ACC future is up in the air, would Dabo be interested? Maybe he’s written off going back to Bama in time.


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SEC Shorts from earlier today with a spot on sendup of Auburn getting ready to hire a coach.

 

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Hugh Freeze doesn't have Malik Willis this year and he's had a gaggle of injuries. They're 7-1 and headed to Arkansas this weekend. Good audition.

He's got the baggage but this is the school that hired Bruce Pearl to be their basketball coach, so in the end, is the juice worth the squeeze....
 

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“You can win a Natty there” feels like a trap. You can win a natty if you can buy a Cam Newton. But buying a Cam Newton is harder now that buying kids is above board. Auburn’s cheat code now belongs to Tennessee.

Beyond that? You can get some good players but at least until Saban retires you’re #2 in your own state and looking up at four or five SEC programs - several of which you’ll play annually - with more firepower. I’d rather be LSU or A&M or even Tennessee right now.

Then throw in the lack of “alignment,” which is legendary at this point. It’s knives out at all times. Maybe this will be a quiet cycle at the high end, and this is the “best” job that comes open. But personally I don’t think it’s a top 20 or 25 job in college football and guys like Kiffin and Lanning would be nuts to leave what they’ve got to take it.
Forget National Championships. They need to focus first on finishing higher than third in the SEC West. Climb the first step in front of you. Their expectation is surely National Championship because they've seen previous coaches in this century get bites at the apple. Realistically, they need to give the new guy three years to get a foundation established.

Freeze will recruit and likely be on his best behavior. He's a born again Christian after his transgressions at Ole Miss. He wanted the Auburn job last time and they didn't consider him because they went with Harsin, Venables and Napier. Freeze has beaten Alabama twice. His Liberty buyout didn't really go up that much last week.
 

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Forget National Championships. They need to focus first on finishing higher than third in the SEC West. Climb the first step in front of you. Their expectation is surely National Championship because they've seen previous coaches in this century get bites at the apple. Realistically, they need to give the new guy three years to get a foundation established.

Freeze will recruit and likely be on his best behavior. He's a born again Christian after his transgressions at Ole Miss. He wanted the Auburn job last time and they didn't consider him because they went with Harsin, Venables and Napier. Freeze has beaten Alabama twice. His Liberty buyout didn't really go up that much last week.
wasn't he already an evangelical before he starting fucking hookers behind his wife's back?
 

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Coaches have egos. Harsin will want to prove he can coach and that Auburn was just a bad fit, never got a fair shake, etc. Could he go back to Boise St? Arizona St? Another west coast school?
 

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Coaches have egos. Harsin will want to prove he can coach and that Auburn was just a bad fit, never got a fair shake, etc. Could he go back to Boise St? Arizona St? Another west coast school?
Sure. Colorado? Arizona State? A high G5 or low/mid P5 in that part of the country seems like a much better fit than Auburn.
 

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Coaches have egos. Harsin will want to prove he can coach and that Auburn was just a bad fit, never got a fair shake, etc. Could he go back to Boise St? Arizona St? Another west coast school?
This is such an important factor I think most of us forget about. Money and ego drive a lot of these decisions. On both ends.

With regards to Harsin, I think everyone scratched their head at that hire. However, Any objective neutral can grasp that 21 games isn't near enough of a sample size under remotely normal circumstances. It wasn't a good fit on paper when he was hired, sure, but he ultimately good have turned the job down. He's getting $13.5 million plus money already earned for his troubles.

Arizona State and Colorado are surely better fits than Auburn. ASU is a bit of a mess and CU has their own shortcomings with facilities, etc. None of that might matter to Harsin if he gets a chance at either job.
 
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