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If you want Fickell as ND's next coach, the best case scenario might be that Franklin leaves Penn State and he takes that job. Big enough to be a step up, but not big enough that he can't be poached when the time is right. He might also prefer that over some of the other open spots because its still mostly operating in the Midwest and probably doesn't have the unrealistically high expectations or organizational dysfunction of places like USC, LSU or Florida.
 

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It sounded like from what I listened to they’d be hiring a new AD and Manny gets a year to save his job or they will go after Cristobal next cycle. Cristobal no shot he takes it though unless they convince him they’ll actually support the program

They have a Coral Gables problem.

Lot of big dough.
Less land

Lots of big dough that is not that excited about college football.

And playing far off campus simply does not work.

the Orange Bowl in Little Havana was the exception
 

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Random poster on USC site that they’re respecting as an insider (broke Helton firing news) says Fickell to USC ain’t happening

I believe it. I just don’t see southern cal as a top job. Fickell could have his pick, might be pining for a particular one, and sc just isn’t some drop everything and go kind of job.
 

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Any chance fickell thinks Day may take a NFL job and he's waiting it out to take over at OSU?
 

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Decent chance Napier:

- First choice for TCU, passed
- Top group if not choice for Va Tech
- early but potentially top group for Florida
- Top backup for LSU, maybe most likely
- Top choice for ASU if they move on

Passing on South Carolina and Auburn looking pretty damn smart lol
 

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Any chance fickell thinks Day may take a NFL job and he's waiting it out to take over at OSU?

If he’s eyeing the CFP this year then he’s probably not going to be ready to make any decisions on a timeline that works for these schools. Especially with early signing day in December.
 

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I think the sense of regret on when will I get the next job at that level has somewhat been lowered with UC joining the Big 12 and the CFP is part of it. Imagine this continues to be Fickell’s world: AAC with a 4 team playoff and compare that to his future if he stays of Big 12 with a 8-12 team playoff and Big 12 has an AQ. That is reason to not take a USC or LSU you aren’t totally comfortable with. Michigan, PSU, OSU, & ND while none are open you can imagine one comes open in the next 5 years. I still think Florida would a decent place to take that jump though.
 

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Give me the choice between Napier and Franklin, I'm choosing Napier without even thinking twice.
 

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Once the top level schools make their hires, I am really curious if the Clemson staff doesn't get torn apart with those next level openings. Both Venables and Elliot have been reluctant to interview for jobs when the team is going to the playoffs. Will be interesting to see if that changes this year. Both those guys could be in play - and maybe above Marcus Freeman...
 

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Once the top level schools make their hires, I am really curious if the Clemson staff doesn't get torn apart with those next level openings. Both Venables and Elliot have been reluctant to interview for jobs when the team is going to the playoffs. Will be interesting to see if that changes this year. Both those guys could be in play - and maybe above Marcus Freeman...

If those guys were ever going to leave, now is the time to do it, considering where Clemson is going to finish and the amount of high end jobs that are open right now.

I think Marcus Freeman is going to get calls and interviews now. These recent results on the field will not be ignored and nor will the list of verbals he's put together. The current openings will be filled and those fillings will create additional openings. If Fickell leaves UC and or Campbell leaves Iowa State, those are potentially great landing spots for Freeman.
 

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Interesting thought but Billy Gonzales (UF) and Mickey Joseph (LSU) are two of the best WR coach recruiters in the country and are likely hitting free agency. Not a fan of the free agent OLine coaches so far that I know of but interesting names out there for WR coach
 

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Interesting thought but Billy Gonzales (UF) and Mickey Joseph (LSU) are two of the best WR coach recruiters in the country and are likely hitting free agency. Not a fan of the free agent OLine coaches so far that I know of but interesting names out there for WR coach

Gonzales reportedly makes $632K a year at Florida. Joseph makes $407K. I don't know what Alexander makes at ND but can we assume it is less than both of these? I'd assume both get snapped up rather quickly, but I question them as plausible hires at ND to begin with.

Pitt wide receivers coach Brennan Marion would be a fantastic hire. There is also Trey Holtz from Louisiana Tech, who is not only good, but Lou's grandson. Iowa State running backs/wide receivers coach Nate Scheelhaase would be another guy I'd look at. All are currently employed, seem like good culture fits and are probably economically viable.
 

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[TWEET]https://twitter.com/footballscoop/status/1462832554634096649?s=21[/TWEET]

DeBoer, Hafley, Harsin, Wilcox and Oregon St HC Jonathan Smith

I’ve seen Campbell, Aranda and Sitake too elsewhere
 

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Hafley is interesting. Didn’t realize he’d get West Coast looks but now seeing he was with Shanahan, some people love that guy.
 

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Gonzales reportedly makes $632K a year at Florida. Joseph makes $407K. I don't know what Alexander makes at ND but can we assume it is less than both of these? I'd assume both get snapped up rather quickly, but I question them as plausible hires at ND to begin with.

Pitt wide receivers coach Brennan Marion would be a fantastic hire. There is also Trey Holtz from Louisiana Tech, who is not only good, but Lou's grandson. Iowa State running backs/wide receivers coach Nate Scheelhaase would be another guy I'd look at. All are currently employed, seem like good culture fits and are probably economically viable.

Does anyone have a ballpark estimate on what our co-ordinator and position coach figures look like? Have we become top tier or second tier competitive? I'd have to assume we've been taking steps by virtue of the fact that Freeman's here, but anyone with further details?
 

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Does anyone have a ballpark estimate on what our co-ordinator and position coach figures look like? Have we become top tier or second tier competitive? I'd have to assume we've been taking steps by virtue of the fact that Freeman's here, but anyone with further details?

I do not. Safe to say the OC and DC do fine. Where it goes from there I honestly do not know.

I have a hard time imagining the WR coach is making $500K+
 

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Napier to UF is hot hot on the streets. I think he’s the Florida or LSU coach in the next week. He’s either gonna take the Florida job or he’s using it as a last straw make your decision move to LSU
 

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Gonzales reportedly makes $632K a year at Florida. Joseph makes $407K. I don't know what Alexander makes at ND but can we assume it is less than both of these? I'd assume both get snapped up rather quickly, but I question them as plausible hires at ND to begin with.

Pitt wide receivers coach Brennan Marion would be a fantastic hire. There is also Trey Holtz from Louisiana Tech, who is not only good, but Lou's grandson. Iowa State running backs/wide receivers coach Nate Scheelhaase would be another guy I'd look at. All are currently employed, seem like good culture fits and are probably economically viable.

I haven't watched much of Pitt this year. Have they been using any elements of his go-go offense? Because if he is still refining that and using it, it might work really well with Buchner.
 

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I haven't watched much of Pitt this year. Have they been using any elements of his go-go offense? Because if he is still refining that and using it, it might work really well with Buchner.

Knowing what I know of that offense and having watched Pitt a few times (Pickett is really good), if they are using any of it they are using snippets at best. Go Go is a very unique offense and Pickett has a set of talents that lend themselves to throwing the ball downfield.

Marion is WR coach and is up and coming. If he were to run that offense he'd have to become HC at a place like Akron. At that point he becomes like the guy at Coastal Carolina if it works. "Well, he can do that in the MAC, but he can't do that in the ACC or Big Ten." Or if it fails he's done for.

I think he's up and coming to a level where if he came to ND he may not be there long, and we all know how so many in this fan base think assistant coaches should be there for life.
 

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I want Lane Kiffin to go to USC. The hiring would be official when a USC jet arrives at an Oxford airport and picks him up on the runway.
 

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I want Lane Kiffin to go to USC. The hiring would be official when a USC jet arrives at an Oxford airport and picks him up on the runway.

Florida may actually consider him to replace Mullen. He'd be a good fit in some ways.
 

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Florida may actually consider him to replace Mullen. He'd be a good fit in some ways.

If this were to happen, I wonder if Ole Miss would consider Napier.

I look at what Napier has done and he's truly done more with less where he currently is. Giving a guy like that resources could end well. I think he's young and hungry enough that he'd get after it. Fully understand how and why Kiffin is attractive to LSU and Florida. You just better realize you get everything that comes with him.
 

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If this were to happen, I wonder if Ole Miss would consider Napier.

I look at what Napier has done and he's truly done more with less where he currently is. Giving a guy like that resources could end well. I think he's young and hungry enough that he'd get after it. Fully understand how and why Kiffin is attractive to LSU and Florida. You just better realize you get everything that comes with him.

Kiffin has a high ceiling and might take a team like LSU or Florida to a NC, but yeah, there's always the fear that you get Bad Lane and your program gets set back several years. I'm a little surprised that LSU didn't grab Napier already. He just seems like the obvious hire.
 

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another thing to consider is how many college guys will make jump to NFL and vice versa
 
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