Chicago White Sox... The thread.

[Southside Sully]

I really want to see the Sox improve the backstop as well. Love the trade rumors about Sean Murphy. Also, you have to figure we are making some kind of move for a left handed starter. We can't be rolling out 5 Rightys. @MacIrish75 brought this up earlier. Can't stress this enough. Along with some LH bats for a change

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I really want to see the Sox improve the backstop as well. Love the trade rumors about Sean Murphy. Also, you have to figure we are making some kind of move for a left handed starter. We can't be rolling out 5 Rightys. @MacIrish75 brought this up earlier. Can't stress this enough. Along with some LH bats for a change

They have no choice but to move guys up or make trades. They've put $12M into Clevenger and based on what they have already said they don't have the money for a free agent 2B and or RF.

Rick Hahn said you can't just throw money at fixing problems. Feels like they just threw money at Clevenger.

 

[Southside Sully]

Holy shit I thought it was an $8M contract, and thought that was too high, $12m, f that.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Holy shit I thought it was an $8M contract, and thought that was too high, $12m, f that.

Per Jim Bowden.

2023 ZiPS Projections: Chicago White Sox

The White Sox have a lot of holes. Do they have the willingness to fill them?

blogs.fangraphs.com

Not a good team.

 

[Wild Bill]

I really want to see the Sox improve the backstop as well. Love the trade rumors about Sean Murphy. Also, you have to figure we are making some kind of move for a left handed starter. We can't be rolling out 5 Rightys. @MacIrish75 brought this up earlier. Can't stress this enough. Along with some LH bats for a change

What role will this play with Sheets, Vaughn and Eloy? Are they still considering moving one of these guys? Outside of Sheets, I believe they have two guys from the left side of the plate - Moncada and Grandal, and Grandal may be gone. I would have a hard time parting ways with Vaughn or Eloy but they would get more in return for those two than they would Sheets, and Sheets gives you some left handed power.

 

[Southside Sully]

What role will this play with Sheets, Vaughn and Eloy? Are they still considering moving one of these guys? Outside of Sheets, I believe they have two guys from the left side of the plate - Moncada and Grandal, and Grandal may be gone. I would have a hard time parting ways with Vaughn or Eloy but they would get more in return for those two than they would Sheets, and Sheets gives you some left handed power.

Eloy and Vaughn are going nowhere I'd imagine. Eloy now is your everyday DH for the most part. Vaughn is your starting 1B. Jose being gone alleviates a lot of that log jam at DH. Grandal would be great to unload, but no one, no one is going to take on that contract for this year, unless the Sox eat most of it. Jerry has money to spend but why would he?? He has a sweet deal, and he knows it. You'd think at his age, a lesser profit margin would be ok, but it is evident it is not. Once he bites it, Michael sells the team, or changes it drastically.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Sheets has always seemed like the odd man out. They drafted him, yeah, but Vaughn and Eloy likely aren't headed out. I still think there is risk trading Eloy, but he brings you the most in return most likely. I don't see where Sheets plays every day on a Division winner.

Vaughn just has to replace the guy who was the best player on last year's crap team who had club house intangibles that made him a veteran leader and was like an older brother to the contingent of young Cuban players in the organization. No sweat.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

• Manager: Pedro Grifol
• Bench Coach: Charlie Montoyo
• Pitching Coach: Ethan Katz
• Bullpen Coach: Curt Hasler
• Hitting Coach: José Castro
• Assistant Hitting Coach: Chris Johnson
• First Base Coach: Daryl Boston
• Third Base Coach: Eddie Rodríguez
• Major League Field Coordinator: Mike Tosar
• Senior Director of Sports Performance: Geoff Head

Thoughts? Yes. Why is Daryl Boston still here? It makes me wonder if Grifol has total say over his coaching staff.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

My fervent hope is that he sells the team.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

He should not still have a job. Period.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

The sound of crickets has never been so loud.

 

[chisea03]

Nelson Cruz shoots free agency shot with White Sox: ‘I would love to play for them’

 

[Southside Sully]

Ya Joey Gallo and Nelson Cruz names getting knocked around.. Going back to the overaged power hitter, like the days of Dunn etc.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

They're just about out of options for an OF, which they need, and it appears that it's Leury Garcia for second base yet again.

What an ass clown show. The fans deserve so much better than Jerry Reinsdorf.

 

[chisea03]

White Sox add Benintendi on 5-year, $75M deal (source)

 

[Southside Sully]

I’m real good with this. 304/373/399 slash 3.5WAR last year. I’ll take that all day. It’s insane to me this is the highest contract in team history. Gotta assume AB is in left colas in right, eloy dh.

 

[stlnd01]

Old enough to remember when the Red Sox traded Benny to KC for spare parts because they told themselves he was past his prime at age 26. (Mainly he had a bad year in 2020. Who didn't?)

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

He bats second behind TA lost likely. They needed to do this. Trade market isn't going to be what people think it is. Teams are playing free agency and paying the money, then holding onto their players and prospects.

I don't have a lot of faith that Kenny and Rick know the market well enough but we'll see. Revamping your roster via trade could prove difficult. Spring training is about two months away.

 

[Southside Sully]

Apparently sox are in the market for a LH #2 starter... via trade

 

[Wild Bill]

Apparently sox are in the market for a LH #2 starter... via trade

Anyone in particular?

 

[MacIrish75]

Anyone in particular?

Anyone that doesn’t cost Colas or Montgomery, please.

 

[Southside Sully]

I have not seen more about names. I am also very disappointed in this thread that no one has formally welcomed Billy Hamilton back to solve all of our OF woes. haha.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

White Sox pitcher Mike Clevinger under investigation for alleged domestic violence, child abuse, per report

A woman with whom Clevinger has a child accused him of physical, verbal and emotional abuse

www.cbssports.com

This franchise is an embarrassment.

 

[MacIrish75]

Fucking embarrassing. Cut this asshat immediately.

 

[NDFAN2008]

Let the investigation happen people are going by what his ex is saying. We know how crazy woman can be

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Fucking embarrassing. Cut this asshat immediately.

Trying to find out when this investigation began by MLB in conjunction when he was signed. If they had begun a file prior to the CWS giving him a contract, this front office is going to have another egg on their face.

I really hope for their sake this started AFTER the fact, because if not, they're going to look like complete idiots.

 

[luckofirish8]

Trying to find out when this investigation began by MLB in conjunction when he was signed. If they had begun a file prior to the CWS giving him a contract, this front office is going to have another egg on their face.

I really hope for their sake this started AFTER the fact, because if not, they're going to look like complete idiots.

Depending on the verbiage in this contract, they (CWS) may also be able to get out of it if the need arises.

 

[Crazy Balki]

Let the investigation happen people are going by what his ex is saying. We know how crazy woman can be

Don't know why this was negged.

Domestic situations are very messy and aren't as cut and dry as "man hit woman".

I'd rather we make a rational decision based on charges rather than accusations.

If the dude did it and charges get pressed, then I say you cut his ass for cause. Until then, you don't really gain anything by acting early. Nobody is going to care you acted early in cutting him, just that you went after him in the first place and then he did this. The White Sox will have to wade through the shit storm no matter what their course of action is.

 

[NDFAN2008]

Don't know why this was negged.

Domestic situations are very messy and aren't as cut and dry as "man hit woman".

I'd rather we make a rational decision based on charges rather than accusations.

If the dude did it and charges get pressed, then I say you cut his ass for cause. Until then, you don't really gain anything by acting early. Nobody is going to care you acted early in cutting him, just that you went after him in the first place and then he did this. The White Sox will have to wade through the shit storm no matter what their course of action is.

Yeah I'm waiting to make judgement once the investigation happens. I've talked to a local detective years ago about this subject and he told me you wouldn't believe the crap some woman make up months or years after they claimed it happened. Long story short he said the ex kids made because he wouldn't do something then makes up lies to make him look bad. It happens all the time. Anyone can scratch themselves or put bruises on themselves and take a picture and claim so and so did it. Unless you have physical evidence of him hitting her video ect it's all hearsay.