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If they're announcing any day, it's going to be Ozzie. Long has at least three more games left to play, possibly more.

I'm more than prepared for them to name Ozzie the manager. Again.

When it fails, get Jeff Torborg and Gene Lamont on standby.
What about Jim Fregosi?
 

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the Chicago White Sox are the last club with a managerial opening. The latest reporting has it that Joe Espada is out, and only Royals bench coach Pedro Grifol and former White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen are the confirmed other interviewees. I still have trouble believing the White Sox would go back to Guillen, ESPECIALLY having just dealt with the disaster that was Tony La Russa. But, hey, if they do it, I’ll certainly watch with rapt attention …
 

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This club has a lot of fans, more than they can ever realize, who are longing for new ideas and innovation. Renteria,, LaRussa, Guillen are not that.

So fortunate we got to see a Series winner in 2005. Likely not going to happen as long as Jerry is alive, and I'm guessing he's going to outlive everyone at this point.
 

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Apparently now the Sox either have or are seeking permission to interview Yankee bench coach Carlos Mendoza.
 

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No way it is Ozzie. No fucking way. I mean how stupid could you be at that point. I mean it worked so well the first time with TLR.
 

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No way it is Ozzie. No fucking way. I mean how stupid could you be at that point. I mean it worked so well the first time with TLR.
I’d feel better about Ozzie than I ever did with Tony. The problem with Ozzie is that he and Tony are basically the same when it comes to their approach to managing. Too much old time baseball and not enough willingness to utilize modern analytics.
 

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Apparently now the Sox either have or are seeking permission to interview Yankee bench coach Carlos Mendoza.
No way it is Ozzie. No fucking way. I mean how stupid could you be at that point. I mean it worked so well the first time with TLR.
They're interviewing a broad range of candidates and will only fuck it up regardless of that. This is the "progress" we're used to.
 

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They're interviewing a broad range of candidates and will only fuck it up regardless of that. This is the "progress" we're used to.
Same as it ever was. FO presents their candidate. Jerry pulls out a roster from 1980-1990, spins around in his desk chair, and points to a name who will become the next manager.

48 hours from now we’ll introducing Ron Karkovice as the next Sox manager.
 

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Until someone is announced I am not believing anything. First it was Espada, then Ozzie or Kevin Long. I wil say Grifol name has been around since the start. Again until its announced Jerry still has a chance to Jerry.
 

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The new KC Royals regime went with Quatraro for their opening, which makes sense. Grifol has been with KC since 2013. He's 52 and getting his shot. He's worked his way up albeit with one organization for the most part and they just had a front office reshuffle for the first time in a long time.

The White Sox seem to have fascination with former KC front office execs and or coaches that began about 20 years ago with Buddy Bell. That's got to be a Jerry thing.

What scares me is KC was one of the last remaining teams that had kind of an old school front office mentality with Dayton Moore. So where Grifol lies on the spectrum of employing new ideas and listening to people outside of his own scope of experience is what will be interesting.
 

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What exactly has Pedro Grifol done for Kansas City? This just seems like a cheap higher by Jerry.
 

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What exactly has Pedro Grifol done for Kansas City? This just seems like a cheap higher by Jerry.
Won a World Series in 2015. He has as many rings as Jerry has, therefore. He's been a finalist for multiple jobs over the last few years. Seems well respected. He's been around baseball his entire adult life.

Grifol, 53 later this month, has been with the Royals organization since 2013 and has served as a quality control coach, catching coach and bench coach along the way. He’s also spent extensive time in the Mariners organization, where he spent three seasons as a minor league manager before being named the club’s coordinator of minor league instructor and, eventually, director of minor league operations.

No one in their right mind would have expected Jerry to shell out stupid money for Joe Maddon, Joe Girardi, etc. Probably not the best idea anyway.
 

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This is a very solid hire if it is Grifol, Montoyo and Katz to start. Sounds like Rick Hahn was actually allowed to do his job.

I'd really only want Katz back out of this current coaching staff.
 

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We excited with this guy over Ozzie? We'll see. I've always been Team Ozzie, but maybe this guy can get it done with this talent.
 

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The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal reported Tuesday that pitching coach Ethan Katz will be retained, and multiple outlets, including MLB.com and the Chicago Sun-Times, reported that assistant pitching coach Curt Hasler will return as well.

But multiple outlets, including MLB.com and the Sun-Times, reported that former Blue Jays manager Charlie Montoyo will be the new bench coach under Grifol. Montoyo’s presence will bring major league managerial experience to Grifol’s staff, and plenty of previous work translating data into usable information from Montoyo’s time with the Rays, where he was well-liked by the front office.
 

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Grifol and Montoyo appear so share a philosophy that home runs are good. Ball go far, team go far.

This is a revelation from the 2022 White Sox that did nothing but hit singles.
 

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Grifol and Montoyo appear so share a philosophy that home runs are good. Ball go far, team go far.

This is a revelation from the 2022 White Sox that did nothing but hit singles.
Hearing Mike Tosar from KC may be coming over to become the hitting coach. He’s widely credited with unlocking the power of Soler and Salvi Perez.

Also, Joe McEwing isn’t returning which is another huge win.

I’m pretty ecstatic so far.
 

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Hearing Mike Tosar from KC may be coming over to become the hitting coach. He’s widely credited with unlocking the power of Soler and Salvi Perez.

Also, Joe McEwing isn’t returning which is another huge win.

I’m pretty ecstatic so far.
Perez considers Grifol one of the keys to his success and sees him as a father figure. Any different set of eyes right now is critical.

McEwing has been in the organization for over a decade. Again, it was time.
 
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