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The Marlins have hired Cardinals Bench Coach Skip Schumaker.

Fingers crossed this means Joe Espada is happening. If they hire Ozzie Guillen, I might send all my Sox gear to Goodwill.
 

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Against my better judgment, I think this office does make the right move and go with Espada.

Hiring one manager who hadn't managed in a decade was bad, but hiring another manager who hadn't managed in a decade is psychotically negligent. There's a reason why nobody has jumped to nab Ozzie over 10 years.
 

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Against my better judgment, I think this office does make the right move and go with Espada.

Hiring one manager who hadn't managed in a decade was bad, but hiring another manager who hadn't managed in a decade is psychotically negligent. There's a reason why nobody has jumped to nab Ozzie over 10 years.
He's bad gravy. Crashed out of Chicago and his brief stint with the Marlins was a disaster.

My only hope is this is taking too long because Espada is still active in the World Series and as soon as Houston is done playing, an announcement will come.

It's just taking too long for Jerry to fuck it up.
 

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He's bad gravy. Crashed out of Chicago and his brief stint with the Marlins was a disaster.

My only hope is this is taking too long because Espada is still active in the World Series and as soon as Houston is done playing, an announcement will come.

It's just taking too long for Jerry to fuck it up.
Another name I’ve heard gaining some steam is Kevin Long, from Philly. I like him a lot but don’t know that he’s been formally interviewed.
 

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Yeah, I've just started seeing his name come up. He won WS with NYY in 2009 and the Nats in 2019. He could get a third this year.

Very interesting.
 

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Yeah, I've just started seeing his name come up. He won WS with NYY in 2009 and the Nats in 2019. He could get a third this year.

Very interesting.
I like this option based on the seemingly obvious paths he's been on.

But, kind of off subject, the Blackhawks have been at best hideous over the past few years... new GM, new coach, fresh new young talent and now they look like a playoff team. So there's hope for the Sox...unless its ozzie or someone else from the past.
 

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I like this option based on the seemingly obvious paths he's been on.

But, kind of off subject, the Blackhawks have been at best hideous over the past few years... new GM, new coach, fresh new young talent and now they look like a playoff team. So there's hope for the Sox...unless its ozzie or someone else from the past.
Very off the subject. Same town, different sports and different franchises entirely.

The hope for the White Sox lies in Jerry doing what he did with the Bulls: getting the fuck outta the way and letting people who know what they're doing run the ship, not the same old people who rely on him for employment.

I have started to wonder if Kenny Williams and Rick Hahn are employable by anyone else. Both have been Jerry's boys for their entire careers. Who else would hire either one and why?
 

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I think Espada is a done deal honestly. We won't know who it is until November 6 the latest.
I hope this is the case.

Admittedly, I have never heard of Long prior to now. Wouldn't be all that disappointing if it were him. I just don't want any stupid Jerry surprises from Ghosts of White Sox Past.
 

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Very off the subject. Same town, different sports and different franchises entirely.

The hope for the White Sox lies in Jerry doing what he did with the Bulls: getting the fuck outta the way and letting people who know what they're doing run the ship, not the same old people who rely on him for employment.

I have started to wonder if Kenny Williams and Rick Hahn are employable by anyone else. Both have been Jerry's boys for their entire careers. Who else would hire either one and why?
It’s meant to be about concepts. DaBulls need to step out of their comfort zones, rebuild the front office as well as start bringing up some of the young talent. New attitudes will bring better results vs complacency.
 

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FINALIST: KEVIN LONG, ESPADA, AND OZZIE, FRONT OFFICE WANTS ESPADA, JR WILLING TO GIVE OZZIE ANOTHER SHOT.
 

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It’s meant to be about concepts. DaBulls need to step out of their comfort zones, rebuild the front office as well as start bringing up some of the young talent. New attitudes will bring better results vs complacency.
They just did that.

Jerry made his son Michael COO. His first act was to ax Gar Foreman and John Paxson. They hired Artūras Karnišovas as VP of Ops and Marc Eversely as GM. Went and got Billy Donovan as HC. The turnaround into a playoff team was pretty quick.

Imagine Jerry empowering someone to clean house with the White Sox. KenHahn goes out on their ass like GarPax did. 100%.

Look at this nonsense:

Executive Vice President Ken Williams
Senior Vice President/General Manager Rick Hahn

Special Assistants to the Senior VP/GM Nick Hostetler, Marco Paddy, Bill Scherrer, Jim Thome
Special Assistant to the Executive Vice President Todd Steverson

Assistant General Manager/Player Development Chris Getz
Assistant Director, Player Development Ken Williams Jr.
Special Assistant to Baseball Operations José Contreras
 

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Loooooots of rumblings on Soxtalk that it’s gonna be Ozzie…I guess if all we’re doing is hiring former managers for another go-around, I prefer Ozzie to Terry Bevington.
 

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I really don't know how I'm surprised by this, but if this actually happens, this franchise will have found a way to reach a new low point.

At this point, why does Hahn even stick around? He already had one managerial hire blocked by Jerry, and now he's meddling in another one.
 

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I recently read that Elvis Andrus may be back at second base next year. He may be the best option because the free agent pool is extremely bad for 2nd basemen. But they may also look to bring someone up and hope for the best.

And apparently, the manager announcement should come any day...
 

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I recently read that Elvis Andrus may be back at second base next year. He may be the best option because the free agent pool is extremely bad for 2nd basemen. But they may also look to bring someone up and hope for the best.

And apparently, the manager announcement should come any day...

One of the few guys that played with a set of balls down the stretch this year. I'll take him.
 

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If it was ozzie they would have announced already I'm guessing long
If they're announcing any day, it's going to be Ozzie. Long has at least three more games left to play, possibly more.

I'm more than prepared for them to name Ozzie the manager. Again.

When it fails, get Jeff Torborg and Gene Lamont on standby.
 

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If they're announcing any day, it's going to be Ozzie. Long has at least three more games left to play, possibly more.

I'm more than prepared for them to name Ozzie the manager. Again.

When it fails, get Jeff Torborg and Gene Lamont on standby.
I wonder if they said no to Espada, or if Espada said no to them.
 

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I wonder if they said no to Espada, or if Espada said no to them.
He has interviewed for a lot of jobs over the years and doesn't have one yet. I'm wondering if it is because Eric Bienemy did a bad thing twenty years ago or something.

Nothing about this has been straightforward, and all the other vacancies have been filled.
 
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