Candidates to switch position to RB?

[fightingirish26]

Oh I'm not scoffing at it... I totally understand it.

I just think he's too important to the QB depth chart to move to RB, especially since there are other guys on the roster who could play RB as the emergency 4th or 5th (or even 6th) option, and especially since Brandon is just 4 or 5 more good-throws-per-game from being a really good quarterback.

If he works out his issues and figure out how to throw an accurate slant pattern, ND's long-term success is much better served with Brandon at QB.

This is true unless Phil J comes in and lights the world on fire. Maybe they could try to crosstrain BW at QB/RB, although there are a bunch of issues with that, such as injuries and him not getting enough reps to actually improve at QB.

On the other hand, it seems like most of his issues are mental, so maybe it would do him some good to not have to spend all of his time focusing on his passing deficiencies all day.

 

[fightingirish26]

A RB and a running QB are quite a bit different with running at pad levels. I dont see this being an option. Possible FL or some thing that could be used as a potential gimick play maybe but he doesnt run anyway like a RB.

BW better get a good degree because he isnt sniffing an NFL stadium any which way short of buying a ticket

At the end of the season, I was leaning towards BW to WR, but the depth chart has a gaping hole at RB right now. This thread is about people switching positions to RB, so no matter who we nominate it is going to be someone who would have to adjust their running style.

 

[stlnd01]

Wimbush is a QB. Maybe he could become a situational RB who gets a few direct snap runs a game. But he’s too valuable at QB, at least this year. If we’re looking for a true multi-purpose RB who can replace CJ Holmes on the depth chart, I think you’ve got to look elsewhere, while not robbing a different position of a major contributor.

On the current roster I guess I’d start with Moala or Bracy. Both look built for the job and wouldn’t be at the top of the safety depth chart. .

In the next class, Jafar Armstrong perhaps. I wonder about Michael Young. He looks like just a good football player. But he’s also maybe our best replacement for Stepherson.

Of older guys I’d think about any safety who is about to get jumped on the depth chart. Studstill? I dunno, he’s small (or was the last time I remember seeing him on the field). Could we afford to give up Shaun Crawford on D?

 

[RDU Irish]

Wimbush is a QB. Maybe he could become a situational RB who gets a few direct snap runs a game. But he’s too valuable at QB, at least this year. If we’re looking for a true multi-purpose RB who can replace CJ Holmes on the depth chart, I think you’ve got to look elsewhere, while not robbing a different position of a major contributor.

On the current roster I guess I’d start with Moala or Bracy. Both look built for the job and wouldn’t be at the top of the safety depth chart. .

In the next class, Jafar Armstrong perhaps. I wonder about Michael Young. He looks like just a good football player. But he’s also maybe our best replacement for Stepherson.

Of older guys I’d think about any safety who is about to get jumped on the depth chart. Studstill? I dunno, he’s small (or was the last time I remember seeing him on the field). Could we afford to give up Shaun Crawford on D?

I'm seeing a whole lot of Happy Gilmore pouting about being a hockey player here...

 

[Desolation Angel]

BW=Cordell Stewart. Full time starter meh. On the field with a real QB, problems for the D with assignments.

 

[NDdomer2]

His odds of being an NFL qb are just as good as being a NFL RB.

As Irish lion pointed out, no one with half a brain is moving your best, to second best qb for next year to 3rd/4th string RB just so we have depth.

 

[loomis41973]

Any William Perry types on the team? Might convert on more of those 3rd or 4th downs only needing a yard.

 

[snoopdog]

Wimbush is a QB. Maybe he could become a situational RB who gets a few direct snap runs a game. But he’s too valuable at QB, at least this year. If we’re looking for a true multi-purpose RB who can replace CJ Holmes on the depth chart, I think you’ve got to look elsewhere, while not robbing a different position of a major contributor.

On the current roster I guess I’d start with Moala or Bracy. Both look built for the job and wouldn’t be at the top of the safety depth chart. .

In the next class, Jafar Armstrong perhaps. I wonder about Michael Young. He looks like just a good football player. But he’s also maybe our best replacement for Stepherson.

Of older guys I’d think about any safety who is about to get jumped on the depth chart. Studstill? I dunno, he’s small (or was the last time I remember seeing him on the field). Could we afford to give up Shaun Crawford on D?

Nicco fertita is a safety....still don't want him playing there.

As an athlete he is a great strong runner. As a passer....worst in P5. And I say worst because he would have had better protection and better receivers than the 2 or 3 who were below him.

If I were BK I would Give him the Marcellus Washington speech about pride "just f#@kin with ya"

 

[irishog77]

Nicco fertita is a safety....still don't want him playing there.

As an athlete he is a great strong runner. As a passer....worst in P5. And I say worst because he would have had better protection and better receivers than the 2 or 3 who were below him.

If I were BK I would Give him the Marcellus Washington speech about pride "just f#@kin with ya"

Wallace

 

[stlnd01]

Nicco fertita is a safety....still don't want him playing there.

As an athlete he is a great strong runner. As a passer....worst in P5. And I say worst because he would have had better protection and better receivers than the 2 or 3 who were below him.

If I were BK I would Give him the Marcellus Washington speech about pride "just f#@kin with ya"

So of everyone on Notre Dame’s football team, the only person suited to be our No. 3 running back is our current starting quarterback?
Because that was the original question. Who should they move to running back to make up for losing Holmes and McIntosh.
But go on, keep bitching about Wimbush. There’s only seven months left in the offseason.

 

[Desolation Angel]

So of everyone on Notre Dame’s football team, the only person suited to be our No. 3 running back is our current starting quarterback?
Because that was the original question. Who should they move to running back to make up for losing Holmes and McIntosh.
But go on, keep bitching about Wimbush. There’s only seven months left in the offseason.

I have many faults. Waxing the steps at nearby nursing homes. Not pulling the fire alarm when the neighborhood orphanage is ablaze. Being a lifelong Patriots fan. My desire for an Irish QB to complete 50% of his passes ain’t one of them.

 

[STLDomer]

Wimbush is a QB. Maybe he could become a situational RB who gets a few direct snap runs a game. But he’s too valuable at QB, at least this year. If we’re looking for a true multi-purpose RB who can replace CJ Holmes on the depth chart, I think you’ve got to look elsewhere, while not robbing a different position of a major contributor.

On the current roster I guess I’d start with Moala or Bracy. Both look built for the job and wouldn’t be at the top of the safety depth chart. .

In the next class, Jafar Armstrong perhaps. I wonder about Michael Young. He looks like just a good football player. But he’s also maybe our best replacement for Stepherson.

Of older guys I’d think about any safety who is about to get jumped on the depth chart. Studstill? I dunno, he’s small (or was the last time I remember seeing him on the field). Could we afford to give up Shaun Crawford on D?

If this was baseball, 100% chance Wimbush would have a negative WAR as a QB.

 

[snoopdog]

Wallace

Him too

 

[snoopdog]

So of everyone on Notre Dame’s football team, the only person suited to be our No. 3 running back is our current starting quarterback?
Because that was the original question. Who should they move to running back to make up for losing Holmes and McIntosh.
But go on, keep bitching about Wimbush. There’s only seven months left in the offseason.

Not Bitching about BW. But he is better suited as a runner than a passer. Either Change the offense to a running option program or have him change positions.

He proved he can’t pass the ball effectively at the P5 level.

And if the coach gambles that he will suddenly transforms into a productive P5 passer and fails, the coach should be fired.

Because here’s the thing, Defences are going to let him throw the ball like Miami, wake Forest, Navy, Stanford and LSU did. And the results were a little (lot) disappointing

 

[BeatSC]

So,how do we think the candidates for a change besides BW would be?

Crickets?

 

[SouthSideChiDomer]

So,how do we think the candidates for a change besides BW would be?

Crickets?

Just throwing this out there, but Chris Finke? We know his ceiling at WR, he is decently slippery to get through the line, he was a walk-on so he probably won't have an attitude about having to switch positions, and from his time as punt returner we know he isn't afraid to take a hit.

If he could figure out how to block he could be a nice complement to Tony Jones in a two back set. One is the between the tackles guy and one is the outside the tackles guy, they both could pass block and they both could catch out of the backfield.

 

[IrishLion]

Jalen Elliott as an emergency option? He ran the ball quite a bit as a QB in high school, and he's probably got enough muscle on the frame to run through traffic.

Depends on how the safety competition plays out too, though. Most people think Genmark-Heath starts, as well as Gilman, but Elliott is a returning starter who has the inside track if he gets better over the offseason.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Jalen Elliott as an emergency option? He ran the ball quite a bit as a QB in high school, and he's probably got enough muscle on the frame to run through traffic.

Depends on how the safety competition plays out too, though. Most people think Genmark-Heath starts, as well as Gilman, but Elliott is a returning starter who has the inside track if he gets better over the offseason.

So bye bye to Coleman?


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[snoopdog]

Just throwing this out there, but Chris Finke? We know his ceiling at WR, he is decently slippery to get through the line, he was a walk-on so he probably won't have an attitude about having to switch positions, and from his time as punt returner we know he isn't afraid to take a hit.

If he could figure out how to block he could be a nice complement to Tony Jones in a two back set. One is the between the tackles guy and one is the outside the tackles guy, they both could pass block and they both could catch out of the backfield.

Or Justin Yoon. He just sits around most of the game...time to get some value from his scholly

 

[ab2cmiller]

Or Justin Yoon. He just sits around most of the game...time to get some value from his scholly

Why in the world would you suggest using our starting kicker???? Our backup kicker Jonathan Doerer makes a lot more sense.

 

[stlnd01]

Why in the world would you suggest using our starting kicker???? Our backup kicker Jonathan Doerer makes a lot more sense.

Is Montgomery Van Gorder eligible for a fifth year?

 

[PANDFAN]

Why in the world would you suggest using our starting kicker???? Our backup kicker Jonathan Doerer makes a lot more sense.

i think he forgot the sarcasm font...he wasn't being serious

 

[BeatSC]

So bye bye to Coleman?


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I think Coleman's name was one of the first mentioned outside this thread somewhere. If getting Ellitott in the backfield gets him out of the defensive backfield I'm all for it.

 

[BeatSC]

Finke as a blocker could be scary. I watched the Wake highlights and will say that BW looked good all the way around and when he got past the line of scrimmage he wasn't coming down with an arm tackle and he was friggn fast. He also threw some good balls and didn't turn the ball over. IF he can learn to make easy short passes this year he's the starting QB. We talk about 49% completion rate but it would be 55% if the WR's helped him out with the drops and he could pick up another 5% easily just by making the throws that we all know he will be making next year.

 

[ab2cmiller]

i think he forgot the sarcasm font...he wasn't being serious

And by my response, you thought I was? LOL

 

[IrishLion]

So bye bye to Coleman?


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As a starter, maybe. I wasn't predicting that he's leaving or anything.

It was a poorly-kept secret that Gilman would have been a sure-fire starter this past season had he been ruled eligible, which makes him a favorite to bump someone out of their starting job for '18.

Add Genmark-Heath to that mix, because all the analysts came away from their bowl-season work talking about how he probably takes a starting job next year... at first I thought it was just a bold prediction from Sampson based on his bowl practice and spot duty against LSU, but the amount of ND beat guys falling in line with that belief seems to show that someone has some concrete information in that regard from the inside.

Now you're talking about two NEW guys taking starting jobs at safety, where there was already a 3-man rotation. There's not gonna be a 5-man rotation, so someone is gonna be looking for work in some way, shape or form.

And that doesn't even account for what happens when Derrik Allen figures out what he's doing, because you're not keeping him off the field for anybody if he learns the defense.

 

[stlnd01]

As a starter, maybe. I wasn't predicting that he's leaving or anything.

It was a poorly-kept secret that Gilman would have been a sure-fire starter this past season had he been ruled eligible, which makes him a favorite to bump someone out of their starting job for '18.

Add Genmark-Heath to that mix, because all the analysts came away from their bowl-season work talking about how he probably takes a starting job next year... at first I thought it was just a bold prediction from Sampson based on his bowl practice and spot duty against LSU, but the amount of ND beat guys falling in line with that belief seems to show that someone has some concrete information in that regard from the inside.

Now you're talking about two NEW guys taking starting jobs at safety, where there was already a 3-man rotation. There's not gonna be a 5-man rotation, so someone is gonna be looking for work in some way, shape or form.

And that doesn't even account for what happens when Derrik Allen figures out what he's doing, because you're not keeping him off the field for anybody if he learns the defense.

Yeah, whether it's Coleman, Elliott, or one of the younger guys, the most likely backup RB is probably someone now playing safety.

 

[SoIll]

So 180 pound Chris Finke is going to play running back?

k

 

[irishog77]

So 180 pound Chris Finke is going to play running back?

k

175lb Avery Davis is too light.

180lb Chris Finke will get the job done though.

 

[snoopdog]

175lb Avery Davis is too light.

180lb Chris Finke will get the job done though.

Exactly


Justin Yoon is 192lbs of........... mean mean running back machine