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IrishLax

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I really, really don't know if you can judge Lyght looking at what he has been asked to do.

I do think you can judge Booker, but honestly our return game has gotten WAY better and our coverage units are generally fine. I just don't think he gets it done as a TE coach.
 

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Sorry but feeling no sorrow for one on the most overpaid under delivering D.C. In CFB. He had good players and a good offense behind him and he puts up some of the worst ND numbers ever! On top of that he will keep getting paid a few more mil over the next couple years.... I'm sure he would be welcomed in the Austin, East Lansing and Chapel Hills neighborhoods. Hope his kid graduates in December or he can hang out with Max.
 

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The DC from Houston is a pretty solid coach. His ties to the state of Texas, the Mid West, and in Fla can't hurt.
 

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With Les Miles out we have to go get Aranda don't we? He's a great defensive mind who did a ton with average talent at Wisconsin.
 

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With Les Miles out we have to go get Aranda don't we? He's a great defensive mind who did a ton with average talent at Wisconsin.

Yes please, from his bio at LSU:

In three years as the Wisconsin defensive coordinator and inside linebackers coach, Aranda led a Badger defense that combined to rank among the top 5 in the nation in the four major defensive categories – scoring, total yards, passing yards and rushing yards.

From 2013-15, Arandas defense allowed an average of 289.4 yards per game – which ranks first in the nation over that span. His defense allowed 16.9 points (No. 2 nationally), 179.9 passing yards (No. 3 nationally) and 109.6 rushing yards (No. 4 nationally) over the three years, a span that saw Wisconsin post a 30-10 record, reach the Big Ten title game in 2014 and play in two New Years Day bowl games.

In three years at Wisconsin, Arandas defense pitched five shutouts (2 in 2013 and 2015, 1 in 2014) and didnt allow opponents to score more than a single touchdown in 18 games over that stretch.

Arandas 2015 defense capped the regular season leading the nation in points allowed at 13.1 points a contest. Wisconsin also currently ranks No. 3 in the nation in total defense (268.5 yards per game), No. 4 in rushing defense (95.4 yards per game) and No. 7 in passing defense (173.2 yards per game).
 

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I'd be over the moon with either Les or Aranda. Our defensive recruiting would explode with Les IMO. He's a coach you want to play for.
 
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I don't know enough about Hudson, his defensive schemes, his mindset coming in mid-season, or where the defensive players minds are after 1-3. I'd say .500 is what it looks like if I'm being optimistic
 

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I don't know enough about Hudson, his defensive schemes, his mindset coming in mid-season, or where the defensive players minds are after 1-3. I'd say .500 is what it looks like if I'm being optimistic

That's my fear and this was the year the schedule was going to give us a shot at the playoffs...smdh
 

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First, I never once quoted the article. I simply said he had valid points.

That's the same thing. You want to argue semantics on "quoting" or something?

I'm going off of the article that was posted, which is why I wrote it. Perfectly reasonable.

I couldn't think of a better writeup to display my hatred of Kelly. I have/have not wanted to bring up the controversies of Seeberg and Sullivan, but he had a hand in both. No matter what anyone says to the contrary, if you look at it, Kelly was complicit in the death of Sullivan, and possibly even Seeberg.

It does not get more clear than that.

All of these instances are reasons someone like Kelly should be let go. It's building a case against someone, just any normal job.The Sullivans may not publicly blame Kelly, but you're a damn fool if you think they dont blame him AND ND in their hearts for his wrongful death.

You're so ignorant it's almost not worth responding to you. Truly, I don't know how someone in your shoes... someone who knows literally nothing but sits at home thinking they know everything... even exists.

News flash: the Sullivans sent other kids to ND after Declan. They're supportive of the University, and the University is supportive of them. I have a relative who has worked with Barry Sullivan on Horizons for Youth stuff, and not once in any context have they bashed ND for anything.

Your opinion is bullshit.

How can you defend him? He had no business putting him up on that lift in those conditions.

As someone who works in construction and has actually used scissor lifts, boom lifts, etc. here are a couple inconvenient facts for you:
1) There was a direct supervisor to Declan Sullivan (NOT Brian Kelly) that is responsible for them.
2) Additionally, they're responsible for ensuring that they're a "competent person" that knows how and when to operate the machinery in a safe manner. Declan Sullivan should have been trained such that he was individually capable of determining when it was unsafe to use the machinery and avoiding said situation. If he had raised a concern and was "ordered" or "overruled" to do something unsafe, that is a completely different situation. There is no evidence of that happening.

Secondly, I don't squarely put the blame on Kelly for Seeberg. Yet I do believe he had a part in what ended up being the result. The football team and the university threw her under the bus and did NOTHING when she came to them. She was then so distraught she took her own life. I feel terrible for her. That is a horrible situation. I love ND and the program, but they were all completely in the wrong on this situation.

What really bothers me about people like you is that my in laws are very good friends with the Seebergs. My brother in law was one of her best friends, cousin-in-law (is that a thing?) taught her in school. So it really bothers me when people like you try to leverage her death into something to benefit their football opinion. You should be concerned about the failure of St. Mary's mental health professionals, but you're talking about her vis a vis Brian Kelly.

The idea that the "university threw her under the bus" is a lie. Even if it was true, Brian Kelly has literally zero input there and he SHOULDN'T have any. So your premise is, like all of your other points, total bullshit.

If you believe the reason she took her life was because of Brian Kelly you are beyond help. If you think it's because of Notre Dame you're simply misinformed. And that's all I'm going to say on it.
 

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I'm all for Aranda. Hopefully BK spent part of today looking at potential replacements.

Do you guys think they hire someone before bowl season or after? Personally, I prefer before so he can build relationships with recruits.
 
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That's the same thing. You want to argue semantics on "quoting" or something?

It does not get more clear than that.

You're so ignorant it's almost not worth responding to you. Truly, I don't know how someone in your shoes... someone who knows literally nothing but sits at home thinking they know everything... even exists.

News flash: the Sullivans sent other kids to ND after Declan. They're supportive of the University, and the University is supportive of them. I have a relative who has worked with Barry Sullivan on Horizons for Youth stuff, and not once in any context have they bashed ND for anything.

Your opinion is bullshit.

As someone who works in construction and has actually used scissor lifts, boom lifts, etc. here are a couple inconvenient facts for you:
1) There was a direct supervisor to Declan Sullivan (NOT Brian Kelly) that is responsible for them.
2) Additionally, they're responsible for ensuring that they're a "competent person" that knows how and when to operate the machinery in a safe manner. Declan Sullivan should have been trained such that he was individually capable of determining when it was unsafe to use the machinery and avoiding said situation. If he had raised a concern and was "ordered" or "overruled" to do something unsafe, that is a completely different situation. There is no evidence of that happening.

What really bothers me about people like you is that my in laws are very good friends with the Seebergs. My brother in law was one of her best friends, cousin-in-law (is that a thing?) taught her in school. So it really bothers me when people like you try to leverage her death into something to benefit their football opinion. You should be concerned about the failure of St. Mary's mental health professionals, but you're talking about her vis a vis Brian Kelly.

The idea that the "university threw her under the bus" is a lie. Even if it was true, Brian Kelly has literally zero input there and he SHOULDN'T have any. So your premise is, like all of your other points, total bullshit.

If you believe the reason she took her life was because of Brian Kelly you are beyond help. If you think it's because of Notre Dame you're simply misinformed. And that's all I'm going to say on it.

Post of the year!!!! reps to Lax as much as I can
 
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