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Brian Kelly Revisited


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Notre Dame Joe

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This is 5 years old, my memory is not that good, but my recollection is that they absolutely did go ask for modifications to his contract during or immediately after that season. Swarbrick shut it down completely and said absolutely not, we're not negotiating on this, we expect you to keep coaching under the deal you signed. Which yeah, absolutely makes sense considering they had just done that song and dance a year ago, why would you entertain that again?

Your links and information have me strongly questioning my "99.9%" claim but that's what I remember... I remember someone telling me that his agent had asked for more money / more guarantee at some point that year and Swarbrick refused to play ball. And what he ultimately signed at LSU was nowhere close to what ND was willing to offer him under any circumstance, so it was a moot point on ND keeping him if that was what somewhere else was willing to offer him.


Yeah this is true. But also, agents operate in a gray area, and the whole point of having representation is that they can call your employer. Like there is always the threat of you leaving, that's where the leverage comes from. They say stuff like "hey I've gotten some calls, we aren't entertaining these overtures right now, but we need to talk about compensation because we're below the market rate for my client." Kelly renegotiated deals multiple times over his tenure at ND -- for both positives and negatives -- and the last deal he signed I think Swarbrick intended it to be the last one he ever did with Kelly.
The agent probably did ask for a raise, that's his job. And there might have been some fantastic amount of dollars that would have kept BK at ND if it was offered. That given, there was no real bidding war between ND and LSU nor is there much evidence that BK's motivation was pay driven.
 

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John Carroll (D-III - OH): Brian Polian has announced the additions of Scott Phillips (OC / QBs), Jack Bush (WRs), Pat Denecke (OL), Alex Wood (TEs), and Kenzel Kelly (OLBs). Phillips is a former offensive quality control coach at Toledo, Bush has prior stops at Northwestern, Central Michigan, and also coaching the running backs at Hillsdale (D-II - MI), Denecke is the former offensive line coach at Valpo (FCS - IN) and Holy Cross (FCS - MA), Wood is a ohio native who has been the head coach at two FCS programs including Florida A&M, and Kelly is the son of former Notre Dame and LSU head coach Brian Kelly who recently graduated with his Masters Degree from LSU.
 

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Coaching at John Carroll won't put any pressure on you. When I was at Case Western Reserve for my PhD program, they didn't even have scholarships.
 

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Wood is a ohio native who has been the head coach at two FCS programs including Florida A&M,


Knew that name sounded familiar.

ETA: he's also the guy that took over Buffalo after Jeff Quinn got fired midway through 2014 before he came to ND
 

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Coaching at John Carroll won't put any pressure on you. When I was at Case Western Reserve for my PhD program, they didn't even have scholarships.
It's always weird to see my alma mater randomly brought up on college football boards. But actually, JCU has put a lot of coaches and admin into the NFL, it's a weirdly good pipeline for football coaching out of a d3 program.
 

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It's always weird to see my alma mater randomly brought up on college football boards. But actually, JCU has put a lot of coaches and admin into the NFL, it's a weirdly good pipeline for football coaching out of a d3 program.
London Fletcher!

JCU used to come to Dublin a few times during the early Dublin CFB games (2012 perhaps last time?)
 

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Usually the ex-coaches and players that went into the studio were liked by someone. I’m thinking of Mack Brown, Lou Holtz, even Urban Meyer I think is still appreciated by FL and OSU fans, but Brian Kelly is literally hated by everyone. When he talks I can’t think of one fan base that will listen.
 

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I will listen to anybody who knows football and is talking about football.
(That also goes for any subject. ... as long as they are not dissing other people as they do it.)
 

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Usually the ex-coaches and players that went into the studio were liked by someone. I’m thinking of Mack Brown, Lou Holtz, even Urban Meyer I think is still appreciated by FL and OSU fans, but Brian Kelly is literally hated by everyone. When he talks I can’t think of one fan base that will listen.

Likability is overrated. Skip Bayless, SAS and Colin Cowherd are three of the highest paid talking heads in the industry.
 

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Agreed. Those are three of the biggest asses I've seen. But, they push me into not watching them because they are OVERTLY such talking assholes. Coach does not rave like that when asked a football question, so OK.
 

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Agreed. Those are three of the biggest asses I've seen. But, they push me into not watching them because they are OVERTLY such talking assholes. Coach does not rave like that when asked a football question, so OK.


Right, but there's no accountability asked for amongst the non-idiot class of talking heads, either. Aikman gets praised and stands out because he's not afraid to say someone messed up on MNF when that happens. Almost nobody else does that, and I think it's partly because they don't want to be seen as too negative. Nobody wants to be grouped in with SAS, et al because some (too many) fans don't see a distinction in criticism.

I'm not sure BK will stick his neck out like that, either. He could and certainly he's shown he's not afraid to say something stupid, but he can also be a politician and not add anything of substance.
 

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Usually the ex-coaches and players that went into the studio were liked by someone. I’m thinking of Mack Brown, Lou Holtz, even Urban Meyer I think is still appreciated by FL and OSU fans, but Brian Kelly is literally hated by everyone. When he talks I can’t think of one fan base that will listen.
But my God, can he dance...
 

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I need him doing a postgame show after ND wins the Natty
Knowing him, he'd find a way to spin it to give himself credit lol

"Glad to see MF could finish the job I started"

You left it in a solid spot, sure, but MFMF has taken this thing to another level. The quality and depth of this current roster is the type of team BK couldn't get over the hump playing against.
 

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Knowing him, he'd find a way to spin it to give himself credit lol

"Glad to see MF could finish the job I started"

You left it in a solid spot, sure, but MFMF has taken this thing to another level. The quality and depth of this current roster is the type of team BK couldn't get over the hump playing against.

The funniest thing is that I could see BK saying that and meaning to make a self-depreciating joke but fumbling it so badly that it comes across as genuine. Guy was terrible at the rhythm of making a joke (see: flubbing the old execution joke so hard that he wound up just saying that he wanted to kill the team post-game).
 

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I think He’s going to be great in this role where he’s lobbed soft ball questions and can be Mr Politicians. Smart for him to go on a PR tour.
 

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London Fletcher!

JCU used to come to Dublin a few times during the early Dublin CFB games (2012 perhaps last time?)
Played football at Fisher while Bikes training camp is going on. They take over everything ours for about 2 weeks lol. But as I was walking to defensive meetings Fletcher Spikes and Angelo Crowell come walking out. Take up the entire hallway just because of how huge everyone is
 
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