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ab2cmiller said:
BK totally left for the money. All the other narratives is simply posturing
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No, I think IrishLax has it right. BK never really bought into ND and was looking for greener grass beginning in 2012. His up-and-down seasons from 2013 to 2015 and then the disaster of 2016 ruined his chances of parlaying ND success into what he thought would be better prospects. He reinvented himself in 2017 because A) he was forced to by Swarbrick, and B) because he wanted to rehabilitate his tarnished profile to look more desirable to the outside market.

Initially after BK 2.0 in 2017, I convinced myself that maybe BK finally bought into ND and saw that there could be no greater coaching legacy than winning the first national championship at ND in over 30 years. I thought maybe he finally figured out that getting a statue outside of ND Stadium would be a much greater lasting coaching achievement than he could ever hope for in the NFL or some other blueblood CFB program. I was wrong. He really hadn't bought in.

ND was already paying BK handsomely. They would have paid him even more if he had forced the issue. There is a lot of evidence BK was looking around before LSU came calling. It wasn't just a money grab. He thought ND was holding him back but it turned out he was the one holding ND back. He hit his ceiling here. MF is proving there are greater heights that can be reached once you buy into what ND is and can be.
 
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No, I think IrishLax has it right. BK never really bought into ND and was looking for greener grass beginning in 2012. His up-and-down seasons from 2013 to 2015 and then the disaster of 2016 ruined his chances of parlaying ND success into what he thought would be better prospects. He reinvented himself in 2017 because A) he was forced to by Swarbrick, and B) because he wanted to rehabilitate his tarnished profile to look more desirable to the outside market.

Initially after BK 2.0 in 2017, I convinced myself that maybe BK finally bought into ND and saw that there could be no greater coaching legacy than winning the first national championship at ND in over 30 years. I thought maybe he finally figured out that getting a statue outside of ND Stadium would be a much greater lasting coaching achievement than he could ever hope for in the NFL or some other blueblood CFB program. I was wrong. He really hadn't bought in.

ND was already paying BK handsomely. They would have paid him even more if he had forced the issue. There is a lot of evidence BK was looking around before LSU came calling. It wasn't just a money grab. He thought ND was holding him back but it turned out he was the one holding ND back. He hit his ceiling here. MF is proving there are greater heights that can be reached once you buy into what ND is and can be.
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You're spot-on on everything except for ND paying him more. I have no inside information, but I would assume that Jack and the admin wouldn't pay him more because they knew he was putting himself first above ND and the program.
 
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ab2cmiller said:
BK totally left for the money. All the other narratives is simply posturing
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The bigger issue was his relationship with Jack. One of my clients has been close to the Kelly’s for years. He was actually with Brian the day the LSU negotiations went down.
 
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GrangerIrish24 said:
The bigger issue was his relationship with Jack. One of my clients has been close to the Kelly’s for years. He was actually with Brian the day the LSU negotiations went down.
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And…
And what is it u actually do? You are a man of mystery
 
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Brian Kelly pulling for Notre Dame as ex-Irish coach addresses backlash over comments stemming from departure

Kelly is pulling for his former team in the College Football Playoff National Championship against Ohio State
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"I'm happy for all those guys, I pull for them," Kelly told CBS Sports as he exited an American Football Coaches Association meeting Tuesday in Charlotte. "A lot of the guys there that are on both sides of the ball, I recruited. Obviously I want to see those guys win it all, and I think they're in a great position. Totally excited for those guys."

“Nearly three years later, Kelly believes fans and media misinterpreted his words.”

"They're selling it the way they want to sell it," he told CBS Sports. "Why do you leave Notre Dame? You leave Notre Dame because you're taking another challenge. I took Notre Dame to championships. It's just the way you want to twist it: 'You only leave Notre Dame to go win a championship.' I wasn't leaving Notre Dame because I couldn't win a championship. You can win championships at Notre Dame, but I chose another path because I wanted a different challenge."

"I felt like I did everything that I could at Notre Dame and they felt like they did everything they could do for me," he said at the time. "I felt like we had both got to a point where this is what they could do, right? This is what I did. And we couldn't get past that. OK? And so here we are."
 
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Coach Kelly's comments are half genuine and half trying-to-make-himself-feel-and-look-better. In both of these he shows me that in most ways he's just another guy who does some good and some bad in personal choice. I believe that he is genuinely happy that all those players that he coached have a chance to be champions. I think he'll clap his hands and grin if we win. (and be pissed if OSU does.)

But he is rewriting history about the "just going for a different challenge" thing. I think that he truly believed that's chances for a championship at his age depends upon him being able to get monsters on his team without himself being able to beat the trails to do so. LSU stalwarts like Marcus Spears and Ryan (I forget his last name) both said on the initial hire that (speaking about defensive power in the line, and overall speed,) Kelly was not going to get those kind of players at Notre Dame that LSU has all the time.

Right or wrong on that doesn't matter. Kelly believed it, and loyalists like Spears believe it. Kelly wanted a championship, and he felt that he couldn't quite do it at ND and he just might at LSU --- that's the whole deal. ... and he might be right on both guesses. He had a "way" that set you up to succeed most of the time, but maybe not at that highest pinnacle. And, if he has a darn good record next year (he might), he might yet stumble into another champion level QB with a more typical LSU defense in another year or so. Miles and Orgeron won. Kelly is a better coach than they are.
 
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www.cbssports.com

Brian Kelly pulling for Notre Dame as ex-Irish coach addresses backlash over comments stemming from departure

Kelly is pulling for his former team in the College Football Playoff National Championship against Ohio State
www.cbssports.com www.cbssports.com

"I'm happy for all those guys, I pull for them," Kelly told CBS Sports as he exited an American Football Coaches Association meeting Tuesday in Charlotte. "A lot of the guys there that are on both sides of the ball, I recruited. Obviously I want to see those guys win it all, and I think they're in a great position. Totally excited for those guys."

“Nearly three years later, Kelly believes fans and media misinterpreted his words.”

"They're selling it the way they want to sell it," he told CBS Sports. "Why do you leave Notre Dame? You leave Notre Dame because you're taking another challenge. I took Notre Dame to championships. It's just the way you want to twist it: 'You only leave Notre Dame to go win a championship.' I wasn't leaving Notre Dame because I couldn't win a championship. You can win championships at Notre Dame, but I chose another path because I wanted a different challenge."

"I felt like I did everything that I could at Notre Dame and they felt like they did everything they could do for me," he said at the time. "I felt like we had both got to a point where this is what they could do, right? This is what I did. And we couldn't get past that. OK? And so here we are."
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