Boston College Post Game

[Circa]

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Love this from our young guys!
BC came out with some fire and was laying some wood early but ya gotta love how we came out in the second half.

 

[Irishize]

That's great, isn't it? Or do you want to give those yards back?

BC had the biggest, nastiest RB on the field by far and ND's had 4 players outrushed him. And yes, three of them were two QBs and a WR. That was great!

BTW, ND's starting RB, who got the job through injuries ahead of him, also outrushed Dillon on the day. And walk-on Mike Assaf had a higher ypc number than Dillon. The only unsuccessful ND rushers were C'Bo, Henry, and Jahmir who combined for 11 yds on 9 carries ... out of the team's 44.

Holtz counted all his QBs yards in the rushing attack. I don't recall him deducting Rice's, Mirer's, MacDougal's, or even Powlus's. He took what he could take and that included a stable of RBs, and highly productive FBs, and he also took ALL the rushing yards Rocket got as a Flanker ... in the air or on the ground.

Devine counted Montana's runs just as Ara counted his QBs strategic rushing yards.

Excellent points. My point about the lack of a running game has more to do w/ being solid to the point when ND is forced to run, they can survive long enough to stay competitive. The scUM game is a perfect example in more ways than one.

1. The weather was not conducive to run the ball. Michigan adapted. ND could not.

2. Don Brown took away the run making ND one-dimensional.

Regardless of who the HC of ND is, they should always be able to run the ball between the tackles b/c at least once per season, they will be in a spot where the weather isn’t ideal to pass &/or their facing a defense that can make ND one-dimensional. Just my two cents.

The BC win was awesome.

 

[pumpdog20]

ND now as 3 top 25 wins. Not as soft a schedule as we thought.

 

[Ndaccountant]

ND now as 3 top 25 wins. Not as soft a schedule as we thought.

That is true.

But ND still has 0 top 22 wins despite having 3 top 25 wins.

 

[Luckylucci]

ND now as 3 top 25 wins. Not as soft a schedule as we thought.

Yep. Hopefully VT stays hot and beats UVA. It’ll be interesting to see how it plays out if ND beats Stanford convincingly.

 

[Circa]

That is true.

But ND still has 0 top 22 wins despite having 3 top 25 wins.

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[drayer54]

Did any of you go to the game? I’m still annoyed with the bass guitar.

 

[Circa]

Did any of you go to the game? I’m still annoyed with the bass guitar.

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[ThePiombino]

Yep. Hopefully VT stays hot and beats UVA. It&#146;ll be interesting to see how it plays out if ND beats Stanford convincingly.

I think the pollsters and CFP committee have made it clear ND was given a short leash this year and won't be asked to any of the NY6 dances barring complete chaos ahead of us. For us not to have budged in the past three weeks (esp the last two after quality wins) tells it all IMO.

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[Circa]

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[Irish#1]

I think the pollsters and CFP committee have made it clear ND was given a short leash this year and won't be asked to any of the NY6 dances barring complete chaos ahead of us. For us not to have budged in the past three weeks (esp the last two after quality wins) tells it all IMO.

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I think the scUM game is still being held against us and when PSU and Oregon both lose and don't drop that far, the writing is on the wall. I just want to finish in the top ten for recruiting. PSU isn't losing this weekend. Need Minnesota to beat Wiscy, because if Wiscy wins, Minnesota probably won't drop below us. Also need Utah to beat Oregon in the P12CG because if Oregon wins, Utah won't drop behind us. Root for OSU to roll scUM, FSU to upset UF and OU to beat Baylor in the B1g 12 CG.

 

[notredomer23]

I think the pollsters and CFP committee have made it clear ND was given a short leash this year and won't be asked to any of the NY6 dances barring complete chaos ahead of us. For us not to have budged in the past three weeks (esp the last two after quality wins) tells it all IMO.

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Strong disagree. We had a short leash this year for the playoff, but definitely not for a NY6 bowl. Playoff they want the best 4 teams. For the NY6 they’d rather give it to a team like ND who will put asses in seats and tv ratings.

 

[ThePiombino]

Strong disagree. We had a short leash this year for the playoff, but definitely not for a NY6 bowl. Playoff they want the best 4 teams. For the NY6 they&#146;d rather give it to a team like ND who will put asses in seats and tv ratings.

Then why haven't we budged in the rankings after two completely solid games? This offense has turned a corner, so either they're not paying attention or they don't care. And even though we barely beat Virginia Tech, why aren't we being credited for a win against a decent team? ND has done enough for the committee to nudge us in the right direction, but it's been the opposite. Remember, it's not the bowl sponsors who pick the teams. It's the CFP committee. Sonif they want us there, why aren't we moving? I maintain zero tolerance policy with us.

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[Luckylucci]

Then why haven't we budged in the rankings after two completely solid games? This offense has turned a corner, so either they're not paying attention or they don't care. And even though we barely beat Virginia Tech, why aren't we being credited for a win against a decent team? ND has done enough for the committee to nudge us in the right direction, but it's been the opposite. Remember, it's not the bowl sponsors who pick the teams. It's the CFP committee. Sonif they want us there, why aren't we moving? I maintain zero tolerance policy with us.

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Well, CFP rankings haven’t come out for the week. So we’ll see if there is any movement. I maintain that if we win convincingly against Stanford there can be a lot of movement in the final 2 weeks. As other teams could be losing in front of us.

https://collegefootballnews.com/2019/11/college-football-playoff-rankings-projection-week-4

 

[Irish#1]

Well, CFP rankings haven’t come out for the week. So we’ll see if there is any movement. I maintain that if we win convincingly against Stanford there can be a lot of movement in the final 2 weeks. As other teams could be losing in front of us.

https://collegefootballnews.com/2019/11/college-football-playoff-rankings-projection-week-4

Other teams in front of us will lose given several of them play each other. Just need the right ones to lose and roll Shaw & Co.

 

[PANDFAN]

Other teams in front of us will lose given several of them play each other. Just need the right ones to lose and roll Shaw & Co.

they aren't even bowl eligible this year....my how the mighty have fallen

 

[InKellyWeTrust]

Then why haven't we budged in the rankings after two completely solid games? This offense has turned a corner, so either they're not paying attention or they don't care. And even though we barely beat Virginia Tech, why aren't we being credited for a win against a decent team? ND has done enough for the committee to nudge us in the right direction, but it's been the opposite. Remember, it's not the bowl sponsors who pick the teams. It's the CFP committee. Sonif they want us there, why aren't we moving? I maintain zero tolerance policy with us.

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We are absolutely getting punished for the no show vs Michigan, as we should. This years schedule set up for that game to be make or break because there was no chance to make up for it afterwards. Beating Duke, Navy, and BC (whether it's by 1 or by 40) doesn't move the needle.

 

[dad4aa]

We are absolutely getting punished for the no show vs Michigan, as we should. This years schedule set up for that game to be make or break because there was no chance to make up for it afterwards. Beating Duke, Navy, and BC (whether it's by 1 or by 40) doesn't move the needle.

Yet Alabama gets kudos for blowing away a 3-9 FCS team

 

[InKellyWeTrust]

Yet Alabama gets kudos for blowing away a 3-9 FCS team

Are they really though? That game is a non factor in Bamas current ranking

 

[IrishLax]

We are absolutely getting punished for the no show vs Michigan, as we should. This years schedule set up for that game to be make or break because there was no chance to make up for it afterwards. Beating Duke, Navy, and BC (whether it's by 1 or by 40) doesn't move the needle.

Who is Utah beating? Who is Oregon beating?

 

[InKellyWeTrust]

Who is Utah beating? Who is Oregon beating?

Not disagreeing here but looking at the big picture including advanced statistical rankings such as FPI, SOR, ect plus human polls - we are about where we should be ranked. Sure, you could argue placing us ahead of 2 loss Oregon but that's about it. Florida, no. Michigan, no. Penn St, no.

 

[Rogue219]

On the cusp of an 11-2 season. Facing the worst Stanford team in a decade to finish the regular season and a likely winnable Camping World bowl game.

The rough patch will undoubtedly be the Michigan blowout and VT comeback.

To have back to back unbeaten seasons at home should be something incredibly significant to this fan base. Do not understate that accomplishment when you consider what we have gone through over the years with Syracuse, UConn, Tulsa, etc. Expecting to win at home is as it should be.

 

[Luckylucci]

On the cusp of an 11-2 season. Facing the worst Stanford team in a decade to finish the regular season and a likely winnable Camping World bowl game.

The rough patch will undoubtedly be the Michigan blowout and VT comeback.

To have back to back unbeaten seasons at home should be something incredibly significant to this fan base. Do not understate that accomplishment when you consider what we have gone through over the years with Syracuse, UConn, Tulsa, etc. Expecting to win at home is as it should be.

Couldn't agree more. The UM debacle is stopping people from realizing how much success this group has had the last 2 years.

 

[SouthernIndianaNDFan]

Couldn't agree more. The UM debacle is stopping people from realizing how much success this group has had the last 2 years.

These are all great accomplishments, but can't we enjoy and respect these accomplishments while also wanting more for a program as prestigious and capable as Notre Dame? People always act like it's binary, you're either negative/positive, which in turn makes you a good fan or bad fan. One of my favorite quotes is "Don't judge people just because they sin differently than you." This can be applied to ND fandom, don't judge people (fans) just because they cheer/follow differently than you.

Not saying you guys are, but it's a common theme around here. If you don't "get in line" it's kind of a mob mentality.

 

[ND88]

These are all great accomplishments, but can't we enjoy and respect these accomplishments while also wanting more for a program as prestigious and capable as Notre Dame? People always act like it's binary, you're either negative/positive, which in turn makes you a good fan or bad fan. One of my favorite quotes is "Don't judge people just because they sin differently than you." This can be applied to ND fandom, don't judge people (fans) just because they cheer/follow differently than you.

Not saying you guys are, but it's a common theme around here. If you don't "get in line" it's kind of a mob mentality.

No disrespect, but this is the same sh*t that happens to those labelled Kelly apologists. So while I agree with you, the advice goes both ways. It’s about balance. For example, I tend to post more positively when posters go off the deep end with negativity.

 

[ACamp1900]

I am the Yin and the Yang...

Stanford by fifty.

 

[ND88]

I am the Yin and the Yang...

Stanford by fifty.

Shaw’s mug vs. Kelly’s mug. What’s the spread?

 

[irishnd31]

These are all great accomplishments, but can't we enjoy and respect these accomplishments while also wanting more for a program as prestigious and capable as Notre Dame? People always act like it's binary, you're either negative/positive, which in turn makes you a good fan or bad fan. One of my favorite quotes is "Don't judge people just because they sin differently than you." This can be applied to ND fandom, don't judge people (fans) just because they cheer/follow differently than you.

Not saying you guys are, but it's a common theme around here. If you don't "get in line" it's kind of a mob mentality.

I can agree with most of this. I for one do not think that anyone that bad mouths the team, coach, or individual players is a "bad fan". I see a lot of passionate posters on here on both sides of the fence whether it be the "Kelly apologists" or the "Fire Kelly" brigade. Doesn't make anyone right or wrong. Its people's opinions and I respect all.
This is solely my opinion and I mean no disrespect to anyone but it seems that many on here during the game day threads only show up and post when things go wrong or there's something to point out in a negative manner. These posters rarely, if ever, post anything remotely positive even when all units of the team are firing on all cylinders. 30 point wins, solid QB play, stout defense, not a whisper from some. But when someone messes up in any way, the few on here are all over it.

As far as the "mob mentality", there's plenty of allies for both sides of the fence from what I see.

 

[Irish#1]

These are all great accomplishments, but can't we enjoy and respect these accomplishments while also wanting more for a program as prestigious and capable as Notre Dame? People always act like it's binary, you're either negative/positive, which in turn makes you a good fan or bad fan. One of my favorite quotes is "Don't judge people just because they sin differently than you." This can be applied to ND fandom, don't judge people (fans) just because they cheer/follow differently than you.

Not saying you guys are, but it's a common theme around here. If you don't "get in line" it's kind of a mob mentality.

Absolutely. I can't speak for anyone else, but what frost my balls are those posts who want to post a negative regardless of what happened. We can finish the season with a win against Stanford and a bowl win and the same people who predicted an 8-4 season will complain that we finished 11-2 because we lost to ScUM the way we did.

 

[Luckylucci]

I can agree with most of this. I for one do not think that anyone that bad mouths the team, coach, or individual players is a "bad fan". I see a lot of passionate posters on here on both sides of the fence whether it be the "Kelly apologists" or the "Fire Kelly" brigade. Doesn't make anyone right or wrong. Its people's opinions and I respect all.
This is solely my opinion and I mean no disrespect to anyone but it seems that many on here during the game day threads only show up and post when things go wrong or there's something to point out in a negative manner. These posters rarely, if ever, post anything remotely positive even when all units of the team are firing on all cylinders. 30 point wins, solid QB play, stout defense, not a whisper from some. But when someone messes up in any way, the few on here are all over it.

As far as the "mob mentality", there's plenty of allies for both sides of the fence from what I see.

And this is the crux of it all for me. Nobody is above constructive criticism and it provides healthy conversation. The problem I have is it's very rarely constructive and is usually one sided.

Look, we have a chance for 3 consecutive 10+ win seasons for the first time since 91, 92, 93 and for only the second time in school history. That's a big damn deal that we aren't talking about enough. Program is in a good spot that we didn't go into a tail spin after that UM game.