Boise State Issue

[Ironman8]

Ivan_Maisel Ivan Maisel

NCAA tells Boise State 63 football recruits received $4934 in extra benefits. Average: $78.32. Get feeling the real cheating isn't in Boise?

If they ever made the title game, they could afford to pay more...

 

[ACamp1900]

that's about a pair of extras shoes... that is the kind of stuff that does happen everywhere... "there is your shoes... only take one pair while I turn in the other direction."

 

[Irish Insanity]

Thats like the tip left by an OSU player after a dinner out.

 

[Riddickulous]

That's the hourly wage for Auburn football players. No biggie.

 

[BGIF]

NCAA tells Boise State 63 football recruits received $4934 in extra benefits. Average: $78.32. Get feeling the real cheating isn't in Boise?

So that's how they've been signing all those 5 Star recruits.

 

[Veer option]

Meh, Scam Newton spent that to get his shoes polished.

 

[k1ssme1m1r1sh]

Before someone gets their panties in a twist, they should realize there is no state called Boise. tee hee.


That was my funny for today. Please be nice, I haven't had any caffeine in three days.

 

[Praytorian]

awww Perk up with some De-caff coffee
(pun intended)

 

[Ironman8]

We laughed at that, but they were just cited as a University for lack of institutional control - main sport of issue being women's tennis with a secondary violation in football:

The NCAA has charged Boise State with a lack of institutional control following an alleged major violation in women's tennis and secondary violations in four sports, including football.

The school released its official response to the allegations Monday evening and will go before the NCAA's Committee on Infractions June 10. A final report and penalties will be issued several months after that meeting.

"We are deeply committed to following all NCAA rules and to ensuring that our athletic department works diligently so that our procedures reflect the highest standard," Boise State president Bob Kustra said in a statement. "I am disappointed that we face these allegations. It is unacceptable, and the athletic department staff understand and agree with my position."

The university has made fixes, done its own internal investigation and hired a new compliance officer, Kustra said.

The secondary violations in football involved impermissible housing, transportation and/or meals to prospective student-athletes from 2005 to 2009.

In all, the NCAA found the total value of impermissible benefits through five years was $4,934 for all of the housing, transportation and meals provided to 63 incoming student-athletes. All services ranged from $2.34 to a maximum of $417.55 and have been reimbursed by the student-athletes.

"We pride ourselves on doing things the right way at Boise State. As soon as we became aware that these inadvertent infractions were not in accordance with NCAA rules, we acted swiftly and without hesitation," football coach Chris Petersen said in a statement released by the school.

"The University, our staff and the involved student-athletes worked together with the NCAA to resolve the situation, including reimbursement of the benefits received, and that money was donated to a local charity," Petersen said.

Boise State began its investigation into potential violations in 2009. The school and NCAA agreed to penalties a year later for the sports that broke the rules: football, men's and women's tennis, and men's and women's track and field.

But later that year, Boise State self-reported a major violation in women's tennis, in which one tennis player was allowed to compete before being officially enrolled.

That led the NCAA to take the secondary violations and major violation and lump them into one case, slapping the more serious "lack of institutional control" charge on top of the existing violations.

"Complying with NCAA rules is fundamental to who we are and how we do things at Boise State," athletic director Gene Bleymaier said in a statement. "We have addressed the issues and are working with the NCAA to bring this to a close."

 

[JadeBrecks]

It would take more than $78 to get me to play on that ugly field!

 

[jason_h537]

$5000 bucks for 63 players is extra gas money to get home. Compared to USC and Auburn this is a joke. NCAA has bigger fish to fry

 

[GreatGolson]

so THATS why they asked for 1 million to play nebraska

 

[Riddickulous]

so THATS why they asked for 1 million to play nebraska

They won't whoop on Little Bo Peep without a paycheck.

But seriously...Pelini is insane.

 

[Old Man Mike]

Some of this nit-picking irrational stuff could be solved perhaps by having a very low facilitating gift [say $100 or so] which could be granted to a student athlete [very open transparency and one-time] for a room and a few meals on a visit. In a way it's almost like trying to police victimless crimes rather than "legalize" a smalltime action.

The athlete would apply for it in advance and receive it when he got to campus to see the coaches. I'm sure that there must be awkwardnesses in this but it seems that a smalltime problem like this could be handled in a humanitarian way with a little thought. Heck, any student applying for a "talent/performance" type scholarship could be under a similar rubric to universalize the concept.

 

[calvegas04]

And Auburn and osu get to walk? This is BS

 

[JadeBrecks]

Some of this nit-picking irrational stuff could be solved perhaps by having a very low facilitating gift [say $100 or so] which could be granted to a student athlete [very open transparency and one-time] for a room and a few meals on a visit. In a way it's almost like trying to police victimless crimes rather than "legalize" a smalltime action.

The athlete would apply for it in advance and receive it when he got to campus to see the coaches. I'm sure that there must be awkwardnesses in this but it seems that a smalltime problem like this could be handled in a humanitarian way with a little thought. Heck, any student applying for a "talent/performance" type scholarship could be under a similar rubric to universalize the concept.

The amount of visits would then go through the roof if you did this.

 

[BGIF]

$5000 bucks for 63 players is extra gas money to get home. Compared to USC and Auburn this is a joke. NCAA has bigger fish to fry

It's not a joke. The extra benefits were minor but that's not the total story as Ironman has already noted.

The NCAA wasn't turning over rocks in Boise looking for violations. Allegations of NCAA violations were made in a lawsuit by a former BSU Track & Field coach. The NCAA sent a routine inquiry and BSU undertook an internal investigation which is the usual procedure.

Violations were indeed found in several programs including football most were very minor, most likely carelessness and/or a poor understanding of the rules. The athletes involved made restitution per NCAA policy.

The NCAA was going to hold a Summary Hearing to dispose of the issues when a major infraction(s) in the Tennis Program surfaced. Among of a number of blatant violations the Tennis Coach played a recruit in a match PRIOR to enrollement. That's what sent the case to the Infractions Committee.

A list of the football "extra benefits" was published on May 2nd by BSU. I read the pdf identifying each misspent dollar Monday night but can't find it now. BSU has acknowledged "errors" in complaince and had already fired the Tennis coaching staff.

As there were violations in 5 programs that IS a lack of control.

Boise State already has implemented several changes to avoid future violations, including

• 
  the hiring of additional compliance staff
  
  updating policies in its athletics compliance manual
  
  increasing rules education and improving compliance documentation
  
  transferring compliance responsibility and oversight from the athletic department to the President’s Office through the General Counsel

This isn't the big bucks of USC and Bush nor the allegation of a parent selling his kid's skills or a HS coaching selling his player's skills (Bama/Means) BUT it was one area where the NCAA didn't need subpeona power it DOESN'T have. The NCAA didn't have to wait for Federal of Civil courts to gather evidence through their subpoena power. BSU cooperated and provided the information.

BSU will likely take a hit in Tennis and Track & Field.

 

[calvegas04]

Boise State better get a slap on the hand like all these other BCS schools are getting

 

[TDHeysus]

.....The NCAA didn't have to wait for Federal of Civil courts to gather evidence through their subpoena power. BSU cooperated and provided the information....

^this is an important distinction, USC defiantly fought the process at each point along the way, then tried to raise the issue of the NCAA investigation taking 4 years. USC did not cooperate at all. They all want to be Trojans...

one big thing that the NCAA is currently saying about Boise St is that they didnt do enough to monitor its athlectic programs, didnt do enough in terms of compliance, to deter violations, or detect violations. - I believe these words are similar to the issues at USC, basically no one was minding the store at USC. I think the NCAA is possibly using the same criteria they held USC up to in the Boise St case (to show continuity). Its possible that how the NCAA is handling the Boise St issue, is how they are handling the USC issue.

Lets say that the NCAA has rejected USC appeal (the ruling that hasnt been announced yet) and now they are publicly going after Boise St. to show they are doing their due diligence.

I dont think I got full point across, I'm at work and I have to cut it off (sry if this is just confusing)

 

[BGIF]

Boise St Self Imposes Sanctions

Boise St Self Imposes Sanctions

Boise State imposes penalties on athletics | Boise State Sports | Idaho Statesman

NCAA violations mean the football program will have fewer scholarships and practices, and four other sports also face sanctions.

BY BRIAN MURPHY - bmurphy@idahostatesman.com
05/04/11

The Boise State University football team will have at least three fewer preseason practices as it prepares for this year’s season opener against Georgia in Atlanta.

The Broncos also will award three fewer scholarships over the course of the next two seasons and be allowed three fewer preseason practices before next year’s opener at Michigan State.

That’s the punishment the school has imposed for violating NCAA rules, according to documents obtained by the Idaho Statesman on Tuesday.

The self-imposed penalties for football are part of the school’s roughly 1,500-page defense against NCAA charges, detailing a host of secondary violations in five sports, including football, and an alleged major violation in women’s tennis.

The NCAA can administer tougher penalties against Boise State after its June 10 Committee on Infractions meeting in Indianapolis. Boise State will begin implementing the self-imposed penalties before the NCAA ruling, Athletic Director Gene Bleymaier told the Statesman on Tuesday.

“The University ... recognizes that some punitive actions are necessary,” Boise State wrote in response to the NCAA’s 39-page notice of allegations dated Dec. 22, 2010.

Boise State accepts blame for the violations but defends itself against the NCAA’s most serious charge: lack of institutional control. If the NCAA finds the school lacked institutional control, sanctions could be more severe.

As part of Boise State’s punitive actions, designed to show the NCAA how seriously it takes the first major infractions case in school history, the school imposed sanctions against all five sports involved — men’s and women’s tennis, men’s and women’s track and field, and football.

...

The BSU President and AD take definitive action unlike the hypocrites at OSU. A couple of scholarships for 2 years is a tough punishment. I couldn't see Alabama or Southern Cal doing that. They'd have teams of lawyers filing briefs to obfuscate and have their Congressmen screaming about anti-trust legislation against the NCAA.


I didn't see what sanctions were imposed on the other 4 programs but as football is is BSU's source of fame that will be the focus of attention.

 

[IrishLax]

Boise State imposes penalties on athletics | Boise State Sports | Idaho Statesman

NCAA violations mean the football program will have fewer scholarships and practices, and four other sports also face sanctions.

BY BRIAN MURPHY - bmurphy@idahostatesman.com
05/04/11






The BSU President and AD take definitive action unlike the hypocrites at OSU. A couple of scholarships for 2 years is a tough punishment. I couldn't see Alabama or Southern Cal doing that. They'd have teams of lawyers filing briefs to obfuscate and have their Congressmen screaming about anti-trust legislation against the NCAA.


I didn't see what sanctions were imposed on the other 4 programs but as football is is BSU's source of fame that will be the focus of attention.

Wow.... pretty crazy to see a school be that proactive in this era of deflection and denial. Props to BSU.

USC whiners and apologists take note.

 

[OlympiaIrishFan]

Boise gets hit with that, and OSU has huge problems and were caught and the coach and players still could play in the Bowl Game. I hate the NCAA sometimes. Ahat about the Auburn crap. Then again, the SEC is the sacred cow for the NCAA.

Do you think Florida, FSU, and the others???? Man, they go after Boise????

 

[phgreek]

It's not a joke. The extra benefits were minor but that's not the total story as Ironman has already noted.

The NCAA wasn't turning over rocks in Boise looking for violations. Allegations of NCAA violations were made in a lawsuit by a former BSU Track & Field coach. The NCAA sent a routine inquiry and BSU undertook an internal investigation which is the usual procedure.

Violations were indeed found in several programs including football most were very minor, most likely carelessness and/or a poor understanding of the rules. The athletes involved made restitution per NCAA policy.

The NCAA was going to hold a Summary Hearing to dispose of the issues when a major infraction(s) in the Tennis Program surfaced. Among of a number of blatant violations the Tennis Coach played a recruit in a match PRIOR to enrollement. That's what sent the case to the Infractions Committee.

A list of the football "extra benefits" was published on May 2nd by BSU. I read the pdf identifying each misspent dollar Monday night but can't find it now. BSU has acknowledged "errors" in complaince and had already fired the Tennis coaching staff.

As there were violations in 5 programs that IS a lack of control.

Boise State already has implemented several changes to avoid future violations, including

• 
  the hiring of additional compliance staff
  
  updating policies in its athletics compliance manual
  
  increasing rules education and improving compliance documentation
  
  transferring compliance responsibility and oversight from the athletic department to the President’s Office through the General Counsel

This isn't the big bucks of USC and Bush nor the allegation of a parent selling his kid's skills or a HS coaching selling his player's skills (Bama/Means) BUT it was one area where the NCAA didn't need subpeona power it DOESN'T have. The NCAA didn't have to wait for Federal of Civil courts to gather evidence through their subpoena power. BSU cooperated and provided the information.

BSU will likely take a hit in Tennis and Track & Field.

that makes more sense...I just could not imagine how they got here...