Blue and Gold Game 2018

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always get the impression NBC is forcefed by the ND Football comms department on who to "feature". Generally its always captains/senior/5th year guys. You never see NBC giving hype to younger players/freshman
 

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"Any Spring Game is going to make a defense look bad and exposed at times, so it isn’t entirely fair to look at the numbers put up by the Notre Dame offense and say that the defense was horrible. But the fact does remain the defense gave up 659 yards passing, and another 254 on the ground."

He does realize that the defense was literally on the field for the entire game, correct?

"It remains to be seen how good or weak this Fighting Irish defense is, but they have concerns at all three levels in my opinion."

Lol. Nope, he doesn't.
 

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Williams may be a solid third down back for Notre Dame, with good pass catching ability

Lol isn't he known for awful hands? What is this guy talking about? Did Dex even catch a ball Saturday?
 

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I share a lot of the thoughts that have already been expressed, but after stewing on the game and rewatching via highlights, here's some stuff:

1. I thought Flutie was really good. Best color commentary/analysis I've heard from him. Maybe it's because the game was ONLY ND, and thus he had no incentive to try and talk up the opposition and downplay the fact that he's ND's home color analyst? I thought he did a really good job of breaking down Wimbush and the things he was seeing from Wimbush in the pocket. He did the same with Book, but not to the same critical degree. Maybe he excelled because he called the game like he was evaluating film, rather than providing color commentary? I hope we get that Flutie during the season, but we'll see.

2. Honestly, #HotSportsTake here, but I wasn't impressed with Tony Jones Jr. I thought Dex looked good, and Jahmir Smith played the "Tony Jones Jr." role better than Jones did. Smith was more effective at creating yards when they weren't there, and he looked natural catching the ball out of the backfield. Hopefully it was an aberration, and Jones was just the unfortunate one who got the crappy blocking and had to run against well-timed defensive calls.

3. Everyone noted how good Gilman looked, but no one has mentioned what a travesty it is that Tranquill got Defensive Player of the Game honors over him. Gilman had one extra tackle, as well as a Forced-Fumble/Fumble-Recovery combo, which I thought was more impactful than Tranquill's one sack. Someone handling the awards has a bias towards 5th-year guys.

4. Literally didn't take away any mental notes on any of the linebackers except Tranquill and JOK, and JOK was only because he dropped a pick-6. Is it a problem that the other guys seemed to do little of note, or is Tranquill simply going to collect tackles like Manti did and outshine everyone all the time?

5. I thought McKinley looked good, despite a drop or two. He looks the part physically, and was moving really well through his routes. He wasn't getting much help from Book on ball placement. I would've liked to see what he could've done with some well-thrown targets.

6. Boykin and Claypool are going to be boom-or-bust all year long. They are both capable of housing any 50/50 jump ball simply based on size and strength alone... but they're both going to drop passes at maddening times. Just a little extra consistency from either guy, and the WR group goes from "liability" to "Defense's Nightmare" pretty quickly, considering the diversity of skill sets in the group as a whole.

7. It will also be interesting to see if any of the frosh can break into the top 5 at WR. Historically under BK, ND only goes 4-deep at WR, with a 5th guy being there to take garbage minutes. Micah Jones was on campus early and couldn't crack the top group. Austin is going to need to look like a 5-star talent in short order; Lenzy is going to need to show the staff that his speed can be used like Fuller's was his freshman year; Keys is going to need to look like an immediate upgrade over Finke. Otherwise, they're all candidates to RS.

Your point about Tranquill getting recognized Gilman is how see the Claypool-Boykin matchup. I thought Claypool was easily the offensive star of the game and the best that BK had to offer was
Consistentcy issues.

I thought it was Boykin and all the other receivers that had consistentcy issues during the game and Claypool being the one reliable go to.
 

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Only caught the first half, but it gave me confidence that the offense will be fine. We have two or three RBs and plenty of guys to catch the ball.
I have no worries about the defense, especially with the obvious upgrades at safety.
Much rests on starting the season strong by beating Michigan. Do that and it should be another fun year.
 

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He does realize that the defense was literally on the field for the entire game, correct?



Lol. Nope, he doesn't.

If you were to just divide those numbers by two (which isn't totally fair because Wimbush and Book weren't exactly even) and you have much more even and expected in game stats. That's why I can never take any stats in a spring game designed like ours seriously.
 

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Only caught the first half, but it gave me confidence that the offense will be fine. We have two or three RBs and plenty of guys to catch the ball.
I have no worries about the defense, especially with the obvious upgrades at safety.
Much rests on starting the season strong by beating Michigan. Do that and it should be another fun year.

2-10 is a fine season as long as they beat SCUM.
 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJH2dYKMK68

I might be slow here (just now watching highlights since I watched the game live)

Did not realize how impressive Brandon's throw at 2:33 was live. I knew the arm angle changed, didn't realize how tightly he threaded this between the line until I saw the 2nd camera angle on this replay.
 

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found him

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:rofl:

well played my man.
 

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Not worth starting a new thread and I don't want to trigger the board's weirdos by bumping the Kelly thread, but what's everyone's expectations for the season? I hadn't really looked at the schedule until tonight and while there are some really stupid scheduling decisions (Navy, Northwestern, Florida State with no byes is classic ND grinding for a loss) I feel like ten wins should be the expectation with the amount of returning players and the overall schedule.

Must/Should wins: Ball State, Vanderbilt, Wake Forest, Pittsburgh, Navy, Northwestern, Syracuse. (7 games)

Dangerous: Michigan, Va Tech, USC (3 games, I don't think its asking too much to say that we should win 2 out of 3.)

Scary: FSU, Stanford (50/50 chance so I would say we should win one. FSU has some major question marks and could be downgraded by November, but they have athletes to kill anyone. I would put Stanford in the dangerous category if this was any other team but like it or not Shaw seems to own this series (partially by being lucky as shit IMO).
 

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Not worth starting a new thread and I don't want to trigger the board's weirdos by bumping the Kelly thread, but what's everyone's expectations for the season? I hadn't really looked at the schedule until tonight and while there are some really stupid scheduling decisions (Navy, Northwestern, Florida State with no byes is classic ND grinding for a loss) I feel like ten wins should be the expectation with the amount of returning players and the overall schedule.

Must/Should wins: Ball State, Vanderbilt, Wake Forest, Pittsburgh, Navy, Northwestern, Syracuse. (7 games)

Dangerous: Michigan, Va Tech, USC (3 games, I don't think its asking too much to say that we should win 2 out of 3.)

Scary: FSU, Stanford (50/50 chance so I would say we should win one. FSU has some major question marks and could be downgraded by November, but they have athletes to kill anyone. I would put Stanford in the dangerous category if this was any other team but like it or not Shaw seems to own this series (partially by being lucky as shit IMO).

How's the offensive line? How's the QB play?

IF those units are good, then I expect 11 wins.

If not, 9 wins.
 

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Did anyone see if Darnell Ewell got into the game?

18 Stripes did a good breakdown of the game where they discuss his weak sack in number 12. Was stonewalled by a walkon center and wasn't even close to Book really.
 

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Not worth starting a new thread and I don't want to trigger the board's weirdos by bumping the Kelly thread, but what's everyone's expectations for the season? I hadn't really looked at the schedule until tonight and while there are some really stupid scheduling decisions (Navy, Northwestern, Florida State with no byes is classic ND grinding for a loss) I feel like ten wins should be the expectation with the amount of returning players and the overall schedule.

Must/Should wins: Ball State, Vanderbilt, Wake Forest, Pittsburgh, Navy, Northwestern, Syracuse. (7 games)

Dangerous: Michigan, Va Tech, USC (3 games, I don't think its asking too much to say that we should win 2 out of 3.)

Scary: FSU, Stanford (50/50 chance so I would say we should win one. FSU has some major question marks and could be downgraded by November, but they have athletes to kill anyone. I would put Stanford in the dangerous category if this was any other team but like it or not Shaw seems to own this series (partially by being lucky as shit IMO).

I'd flip Stanford and USC honestly. I really don't see us losing to Stanford this year. I think they're gonna be good offensively, but it's basically gonna hinge on Costello being a quality passing threat to detract from Love, and I'd be more concerned about it, but Costello wasn't that good last year and he missed all of the spring with an injury, so that's a ton of development lost. In addition, just having safeties that will make plays on the ball will make a TON of difference. On top of that, I just don't think their defense will be good at all. Granted, it'll come down to the QB play being a hell of a lot better than it was last year and mixing things up a bit. Not playing them late in the year will be a huge difference to me. That made all the difference IMO. September/October ND runs them out of Palo Alto in embarrassing fashion.

As for USC, we play them in November and have to travel across the country and we're doing a TON of travel. I think we're going to have a considerably better team than SC, but that definitely worries me. I thought we had a much better team than Stanford last year and look how that turned out?
 

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18 Stripes did a good breakdown of the game where they discuss his weak sack in number 12. Was stonewalled by a walkon center and wasn't even close to Book really.

Talked about Tony Jones looking very unimpressive.

Sorry, but I don't agree at all. Didn't have a good spring game, but he's look pretty good so far this spring and keep in mind, he had to go up against the 1st team most of the time and...yeah, to say they're pretty good against the run would be an understatement.

When Jones was healthy, we saw the brutal combination of size and athleticism. He appears to have gotten slighter and more agile. I'm not worried about him as long as he's healthy.
 

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Talked about Tony Jones looking very unimpressive.

Sorry, but I don't agree at all. Didn't have a good spring game, but he's look pretty good so far this spring and keep in mind, he had to go up against the 1st team most of the time and...yeah, to say they're pretty good against the run would be an understatement.

When Jones was healthy, we saw the brutal combination of size and athleticism. He appears to have gotten slighter and more agile. I'm not worried about him as long as he's healthy.

Jones is totally fine as a workhorse, ground-and-pound back who can pass block and catch the occasional swing pass. He's got an important role in our offense. I've just never seen the athleticism that you want in an RB1. If he's our top running back it's because Dexter Williams can't put it together, which would be disappointing.
Also Jahmir Smith looks like he was born ready.
 

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I'd flip Stanford and USC honestly. I really don't see us losing to Stanford this year. I think they're gonna be good offensively, but it's basically gonna hinge on Costello being a quality passing threat to detract from Love, and I'd be more concerned about it, but Costello wasn't that good last year and he missed all of the spring with an injury, so that's a ton of development lost. In addition, just having safeties that will make plays on the ball will make a TON of difference. On top of that, I just don't think their defense will be good at all. Granted, it'll come down to the QB play being a hell of a lot better than it was last year and mixing things up a bit. Not playing them late in the year will be a huge difference to me. That made all the difference IMO. September/October ND runs them out of Palo Alto in embarrassing fashion.

As for USC, we play them in November and have to travel across the country and we're doing a TON of travel. I think we're going to have a considerably better team than SC, but that definitely worries me. I thought we had a much better team than Stanford last year and look how that turned out?

That has been said about Stanford every year since Luck left and Kelly still finds a way to lose.
 

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How's the offensive line? How's the QB play?

IF those units are good, then I expect 11 wins.

If not, 9 wins.

Fair enough. I don't like to adjust expectations because I feel like the play of the OL and play of the QB is the direct responsibility of the coaching staff under these circumstances. We have 4-5 star talent, we have health, and to my knowledge no one in those position groups has been shown to be uncoachable (i.e. Stepherson). BK is supposed to be a QB guru. Quinn is supposed to be a fantastic OL coach. I know "you can lead a horse to water" but think the circumstances are as good as they've ever been for those positions and its on them to get it done.
 

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folks on II reckon the team is looking complacent compared to last year and are not convinced by the Offensive Line play and doubt they will be ready to roll come Michigan. Could be a lot of teething problems.
 

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folks on II reckon the team is looking complacent compared to last year and are not convinced by the Offensive Line play and doubt they will be ready to roll come Michigan. Could be a lot of teething problems.

I didn't see guys that looked complacent in the B&G game, but I'm not getting paid to analyze/generate clicks, sooooo
 
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folks on II reckon the team is looking complacent compared to last year and are not convinced by the Offensive Line play and doubt they will be ready to roll come Michigan. Could be a lot of teething problems.

This is my biggest fear. Yes, we have plenty of pieces but will they come together? We had a large number of false starts in the spring game, we better get our sh!t together before Michigan.
 

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folks on II reckon the team is looking complacent compared to last year and are not convinced by the Offensive Line play and doubt they will be ready to roll come Michigan. Could be a lot of teething problems.

Wait. Really?
Have not heard anything like that until now.

Players or staff?
 
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