BCS rankings 2013

[Irish Houstonian]

If we win out, I pray FSU doesn't get left out of the NCG or they don't win the ACC.

C'mon Miami!

 

[#1rish]

So essentially:

Beat Navy, Pitt, BYU, Lose to Stanford: Pinstripe vs. Rutgers/Cincy/Houston

Win out: Orange vs. FSU


Obviously I'd prefer BCS bowl, but I would be ecstatic to watch a ND game at Yankee Stadium.

 

[drayer54]

RDU Irish and drayer54 logic would say that Fresno State and Northern Illinois should be top 10 teams.

Disagree. UNI barely slipped by Iowa. Only OSU gets away with that and stays in the top 10.

Fresno doesn't play anyone ever.

 

[drayer54]

So essentially:

Beat Navy, Pitt, BYU, Lose to Stanford: Pinstripe vs. Rutgers/Cincy/Houston

Win out: Orange vs. FSU


Obviously I'd prefer BCS bowl, but I would be ecstatic to watch a ND game at Yankee Stadium.

I love my Irish, but would be worried about another BCS knockout if the draw were FSU.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

We would get slaughtered by FSU. Too bad the Orange Bowl has the first choice this year. I wish the conferences that lost BCS Bowl bids would get first choice so we could theoretically play in the Rose Bowl against OSU instead.

 

[NDWorld247]

We would get slaughtered by FSU. Too bad the Orange Bowl has the first choice this year. I wish the conferences that lost BCS Bowl bids would get first choice so we could theoretically play in the Rose Bowl against OSU instead.

They do. The Orange has the first choice once the NCG replacements have been selected. If Oregon makes the NCG and the Rose Bowl wants us, they will have first choice before the Orange.

 

[PANDFAN]

Wondering where your team stands? Here's the full set of data:

Rk Team SOS Previous SOS Future Difference
1 Oklahoma State 118 22 -96
2 Miami 98 5 -93
3 Oregon 86 3 -83
4 Baylor 110 29 -81
5 Michigan 112 33 -79
5 Texas Tech 99 20 -79
7 Cincinnati 125 47 -78
8 UTEP 119 42 -77
9 Houston 91 32 -59
9 Oklahoma 75 16 -59
11 Nebraska 113 56 -57
12 Syracuse 89 35 -54
13 Florida State 103 51 -52
14 Wyoming 120 69 -51
15 Minnesota 95 49 -46
16 Mississippi State 44 1 -43
17 Idaho 78 38 -40
18 Kansas 71 34 -37
18 Oregon State 39 2 -37
20 Troy 93 57 -36
Rk Team SOS Previous SOS Future Difference
21 Ohio State 105 70 -35
21 Arizona 48 13 -35
21 Notre Dame 41 6 -35
24 New Mexico 115 81 -34
25 Miami (OH) 117 84 -33
26 Clemson 69 37 -32
27 Illinois 92 63 -29
28 Tulsa 96 68 -28
29 South Florida 63 36 -27
30 Wake Forest 65 41 -24
31 Rutgers 81 58 -23
32 Louisiana Tech 122 100 -22
32 SMU 70 48 -22
34 Navy 87 67 -20
34 Indiana 51 31 -20
36 Louisville 106 87 -19
36 LSU 23 4 -19
38 Tulane 116 99 -17
38 Eastern Michigan 114 97 -17
Rk Team SOS Previous SOS Future Difference
40 Central Michigan 101 85 -16
40 UAB 77 61 -16
42 Alabama 43 28 -15
43 Northern Illinois 108 94 -14
44 South Alabama 124 111 -13
45 Ball State 107 95 -12
46 Missouri 49 39 -10
46 Colorado 17 7 -10
48 Texas A&M 19 10 -9
49 Michigan State 85 78 -7
49 Georgia 28 21 -7
51 Louisiana Lafayette 111 105 -6
51 East Carolina 97 91 -6
53 Memphis 67 62 -5
53 USC 24 19 -5
55 Texas 31 27 -4
55 Auburn 27 23 -4
55 Florida 12 8 -4
58 North Carolina State 57 54 -3
Rk Team SOS Previous SOS Future Difference
58 Wisconsin 47 44 -3
60 Connecticut 84 82 -2
60 Pittsburgh 32 30 -2
60 Arizona State 16 14 -2
63 Fresno State 123 122 -1
63 Temple 74 73 -1
63 Purdue 60 59 -1
66 Western Kentucky 121 121 0
66 UNLV 102 102 0
66 Southern Mississippi 90 90 0
66 Marshall 88 88 0
66 Maryland 55 55 0
66 Stanford 18 18 0
72 Hawaii 79 80 1
73 California 7 9 2
74 Florida International 80 83 3
74 Arkansas 8 11 3
76 Virginia 22 26 4
77 Duke 58 64 6
Rk Team SOS Previous SOS Future Difference
78 Air Force 100 107 7
78 Ohio 94 101 7
78 Iowa 64 71 7
78 BYU 36 43 7
82 Washington State 3 12 9
83 Bowling Green 109 119 10
83 Kentucky 15 25 10
83 Utah 5 15 10
86 Northwestern 61 72 11
87 Penn State 54 66 12
88 UCLA 4 17 13
89 Nevada 37 53 16
89 Iowa State 34 50 16
91 Texas State 104 123 19
91 Rice 73 92 19
91 Kansas State 46 65 19
94 Central Florida 66 86 20
95 Tennessee 1 24 23
96 Western Michigan 72 96 24
Rk Team SOS Previous SOS Future Difference
97 TCU 20 46 26
98 Massachusetts 82 112 30
99 North Texas 83 114 31
100 Boston College 42 74 32
101 New Mexico State 76 110 34
101 Virginia Tech 11 45 34
101 Washington 6 40 34
104 UTSA 56 93 37
105 San Diego State 68 108 40
106 Colorado State 33 77 44
107 Georgia Tech 10 60 50
107 Mississippi 2 52 50
109 Louisiana Monroe 52 103 51
110 West Virginia 25 79 54
111 Army 62 117 55
112 Buffalo 40 98 58
113 North Carolina 13 75 62
114 San Jose State 45 109 64
115 Kent State 59 125 66
Rk Team SOS Previous SOS Future Difference
116 Vanderbilt 9 76 67
117 Middle Tennessee 50 120 70
118 Akron 53 124 71
119 Arkansas State 30 104 74
120 Toledo 38 113 75
120 South Carolina 14 89 75
122 Boise State 29 106 77
123 Georgia State 35 116 81
124 Utah State 26 118 92
125 Florida Atlantic 21 115 94

 

[GoldenToTheGrave]

I love my Irish, but would be worried about another BCS knockout if the draw were FSU.

We'd be taken to the cleaners by FSU, I personally think they're better than Bama.

 

[Buster Bluth]

They do. The Orange has the first choice once the NCG replacements have been selected. If Oregon makes the NCG and the Rose Bowl wants us, they will have first choice before the Orange.

It would go

BCS #1 replacement
BCS #2 replacement
Orange Bowl
etc

So the Sugar Bowl would pick first, could end up there I guess.

 

[NDWorld247]

It would go

BCS #1 replacement
BCS #2 replacement
Orange Bowl
etc

So the Sugar Bowl would pick first, could end up there I guess.

Right. I'm assuming the Sugar selects a SEC team.

 

[stlnd01]

They do. The Orange has the first choice once the NCG replacements have been selected. If Oregon makes the NCG and the Rose Bowl wants us, they will have first choice before the Orange.

And if both we and Oregon beat Stanford, it would seem pretty unlikely that there's a second Pac-12 team in the Top 14 (next most likely would be UCLA or ASU, who'll yet play each other with the winner likely facing Oregon the Pac-12 title game).
Would love to get Ohio State there.

 

[Irish#1]

I would love to play OSU.

 

[GATTACA!]

Get the chance to end osu's 25 game winning streak in a BCS bowl.......my mouth is watering

 

[T Town Tommy]

SBT's Eric Hanson just published an article on our BCS prospects. He quotes CBS's Jerry Palm, who confirms what most here have predicted: (1) if we win out, we're likely headed to the Orange Bowl against the ACC champ; (2) if we fall short, we're likely headed to the Pinstripe Bowl against the AAC champ.

That's a lot riding on the difference between winning out and losing one game. But I agree. Win out and oranges are in the Irish future.

 

[KPENN]

SBT's Eric Hanson just published an article on our BCS prospects. He quotes CBS's Jerry Palm, who confirms what most here have predicted: (1) if we win out, we're likely headed to the Orange Bowl against the ACC champ; (2) if we fall short, we're likely headed to the Pinstripe Bowl against the AAC champ.

This doesn't make sense. The AAC gets an auto BCS bid though, don't they?

 

[T Town Tommy]

This doesn't make sense. The AAC gets an auto BCS bid though, don't they?

They do and UCF is in line to get it since they beat Louisville. The AAC runner up or third place team would probably be the opponent for the Pinstripe I believe.

 

[Irish YJ]

They do and UCF is in line to get it since they beat Louisville. The AAC runner up or third place team would probably be the opponent for the Pinstripe I believe.

You are correct (3rd place). Matches the 7th place bowl eligible team in the Big12 (which they will likely not have a 7th bowl eligible team).

 

[Buster Bluth]

You are correct (3rd place). Matches the 7th place bowl eligible team in the Big12 (which they will likely not have a 7th bowl eligible team).

Wiki says fourth place AAC.

 

[Irish YJ]

Wiki says fourth place AAC.

huh. thought it was 3rd. thanks BB.

 

[BGIF]

Wiki says fourth place AAC.

Which would explain TSN projecting Cincinnati as the Pinstripe opponent.

 

[RDU Irish]

RDU Irish and drayer54 logic would say that Fresno State and Northern Illinois should be top 10 teams.

Playing in a BCS conference counts for something. Those teams essentially need to go undefeated to make a BCS bowl.

Losing to an unranked team should drop you behind any BCS conference undefeated at this point of the season. The caveat, you have plenty of time to play your way back in front of them if the drop one and they have the benefit of the doubt if they stay undefeated. Is it really fair to say Stanford should finish ahead of Baylor or Miami if all three teams win out?

Now Fresno St and Nor Illinois won't be challenged so it makes sense for them to have a bigger hill to climb.

 

[phork]

Remember its the THIRD CHOICE from the conference not the THIRD PLACE. Placings in conferences hold no sway in where teams go. Bowls are trying to make the best matches possible.

 

[stlnd01]

The caveat, you have plenty of time to play your way back in front of them if the drop one and they have the benefit of the doubt if they stay undefeated. Is it really fair to say Stanford should finish ahead of Baylor or Miami if all three teams win out?

If all three teams win out? No. Baylor will have beaten several ranked teams. Miami will likely have beaten Florida State twice. Stanford will still have lost. Over the course of a season, undefeated matters. But right now, eight games in, it matters less than performance to date.
And, really, this is all talk. Polls don't actually matter until the last one.

 

[GATTACA!]

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[CanadalovesND]

Either we stay at #25 and Michigan drops to #24, or we go unranked with Michigan at #25.

I just don't think Michigan will drop out of the BCS Standings.

Head-to-head SOS between ND and Michigan is identical....

58-42 (.724%)

 

[stlnd01]

Either we stay at #25 and Michigan drops to #24, or we go unranked with Michigan at #25.

I just don't think Michigan will drop out of the BCS Standings.

Head-to-head SOS between ND and Michigan is identical....

58-42 (.724%)

Really? They were 21st and they got walloped by #22. And aside from beating us they've done nothing. We didn't do ourselves any favors today but I don't know how they stay in the Top 25. Other than that it's hard to see much change. Texas Tech will drop but not all the way out. Miami will fall back to the high teens. We'll still be looking up at both of them from 24th.

 

[gkIrish]

Barring a Fresno St. loss we should be 24th. We will definitely pass Michigan and hopefully Texas Tech. Tech got destroyed at home but I don't think they drop 10 spots. Michigan will drop out of every human poll so their BCS will tank.

 

[GATTACA!]

My lord just looked up Fresnos schedule, it is absolutely atrocious.

 

[BGIF]

CBSSports Guess at Sunday's AP Poll

CBSSports Guess at Sunday's AP Poll

Tomorrow's Top 25 Today: Week 10 - CBSSports.com

Details at the LINK

1. Alabama (1)
2. Oregon (2)
3. Florida State (3)
4. Ohio State (4)
5. Baylor (5)
6. Stanford (6)
7. Auburn (8)
8. Clemson (9)
9. Missouri (10)
10. LSU (11)
11. Texas A&M (12)
12. Oklahoma (13)
13. South Carolina (14)
14. Oklahoma State (18)
15. Miami (7)
16. Fresno State (16)
17. Michigan State (24)
18. UCLA (17)
19. UCF (19)
20. Louisville (20)
21. Northern Illinois (21)
22. Wisconsin (22)
23. Arizona State (25)
24. Texas Tech (15):
25. Notre Dame (NR)

Dropped out of projected rankings: Michigan
Also under consideration: Texas

 

[NDPhilly]

Texas Tech literally has beaten no one. There 2 best wins are 4-5 West Virginia and 3-6 TCU.