Baylor IS in some deep trouble

[IrishLion]

Maybe they'll hire BVG?

And he will in turn hire Defensive Coordinator Joe Schmidt.

That defense will be the most well-aligned defense of all the defenses.

 

[kmoose]

And he will in turn hire Defensive Coordinator Joe Schmidt.

That defense will be the most well-aligned defense of all the defenses.

Joe will have to earn his chops, first. I think OC Evan Sharpley and DC Thomas Rees will bring him along quickly.

 

[T Town Tommy]

And he will in turn hire Defensive Coordinator Joe Schmidt.

That defense will be the most well-aligned defense of all the defenses.

Can an All-American DL actually drop back and cover them speedy Big 12 receivers though?

 

[IrishLion]

Joe will have to earn his chops, first. I think OC Evan Sharpley and DC Thomas Rees will bring him along quickly.

Perfect! Nobody knows more about creating crucial turnovers in the red zone!

 

[irishff1014]

Just in general, this obviously can't hurt Texas recruiting. At this point, Texas is the only legit program that isn't a dumpster fire and they aren't completely out of the woods. Especially, if they have another slow start to the season. With A&M and Baylor in reeling, I'd be all over Texas recruits. Sounds like we've already made some traction with a few good players but I'd keep kicking tires.

It gives other schools the chance to swoop in and get stars too. Not much of a bonus for us imo.

 

[irishff1014]

Damn this is crazy.

 

[ulukinatme]

<S>Gotta hand it to Baylor. They did a shitty job with these allegations up till now, but a lot of people weren't expecting them to fire Briles and they did. Doesn't make them saints, but I commend them for doing the right thing finally.</S>

Fuck it.

 

[dublinirish]

Don't they have a top, big name, QB commit?

yeah kid from IMG who's originally from Waco area
Kellen Mond, IMG Academy, Dual-Threat Quarterback

The trickle has begun:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Due to the departure of Coach Briles, I'd like to open my recruiting and decommit from Baylor. Thank u Baylor staff esp Coach Lebby & Bedell</p>— Kedrick James (@kedrickjames044) <a href="https://twitter.com/kedrickjames044/status/735904219924811777">May 26, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[BGIF]

Firing of Art Briles a sign of increased standards in college football

Ivan MaiselESPN Senior Writer 5/24/16

Mark this day down. Turn the corner of this page in the college football family bible. Someone in the gridiron-industrial complex stood up and said some standards are more important than winning.

Baylor will fire head coach Art Briles, who in the past five years has won 50 games and two Big 12 Conference championships. The university also forced president Kenneth Starr to relinquish the job and reprimanded athletic director Ian McCaw. But Starr will be university chancellor, and McCaw will still be AD. Briles received the harshest punishment.

...

 

[Irishnuke]

Man, why couldn't this be Alabama or OSU?

 

[Bishop2b5]

What I hope comes from all this is that every other program in the country gets the message that letting their players run wild and act like uncontrolled animals while they look the other way or even help cover it up will no longer be tolerated and will absolutely result in coaches being fired, administrators being fired, and programs gutted.

 

[phork]

Man, why couldn't this be Alabama or OSU?

Baylor is not college football royalty thats why.

 

[Redbar]

Why is everyone rushing to pat Baylor on the back like they did something big? Like they are the new "conscience of college football", we need to "mark this day down", this to me is akin to letting go of a pot handle after you have third degree burns...yeah great job Baylor!

 

[Bogtrotter07]

^This

It tells you that the report is going to say that Briles was aware of what was going on and ignored it or actively covered it up.

Without reading beyond this, if it does come out that anyone was aware, and did anything less than report it (which obviously, no one did), all of those see no evil-hear no evil-speak no evil monkeys owe society a number of years behind bars for being accessories. On each count. I won't be happy until they are tried and convicted.

Don't even talk about justice, this is about changing a really wrong behavior that has been allowed to exist in our culture for way too long!

 

[Bogtrotter07]

What I hope comes from all this is that every other program in the country gets the message that letting their players run wild and act like uncontrolled animals while they look the other way or even help cover it up will no longer be tolerated and will absolutely result in coaches being fired, administrators being fired, and programs gutted.

Interesting point.

I just spoke with someone I know in public policy (or whatever) and there is a hypothesis that I am going to tap into here :

Over the past fifteen years, (or so), the NFL has learned it gets burned on the questionable character players every time. The popularity of any professional sport, (enough to sell all the seats, and hundreds of millions in gear), is entirely dependent on constant media exposure. Any player gain is negated by bad media exposure, and overall, how much player gain do you get long-term, anyway?

So the point is, the NFL price for anyone with gray skies coming out of college is plummeting. Since college programs are totally driven by the money success brings, to get the caliber players that bring success, colleges have to put players in the NFL. So more young kids that want and have the ability to play in the NFL will come and win games for them.

The college powers have been getting the message. This year's draft with offensive tackles was the icing on the cake. Then you have the Cameron slide.

I really believe profit motivated this push to clean up the cesspool otherwise known as Baylor Football. Which is exactly the way it is supposed to work. Businesses are amoral. So cultures like this can, will, and do develop. But I believe this is a case of profit regulating out of control immorality.

If I were a parent of any of these young women, I would select arsenic tipped smaller caliber bullets, (thinking .22LR,) but I think the following needs to happen :

Jail time, for athletes, and coaches who were accessories before and after the fact; what's good enough for Penn State, is good enough for Baylor.

Disbarment and banishment for Starr and Briles.

Death penalty for Baylor Football. They got the good on everyone it seems, and this situation is worse than PSU, these people are the current coaching staff. At the State Penn, scumbag had been gone as a coach for what, almost ten years? And instead of one persons actions being covered up, the assholes at Baylor developed a culture where more and more perpetrated crimes.

 

[koonja]

Man, why couldn't this be Alabama or OSU?

If you could pick one school to plummet and your measure was 'how much it helps ND recruiting', who would it be? I'd say Stanford. I think with a normal HC, they're nothing again. But OSU would rebound with a power hire and probably recruit better than us still, albiet not as good as they are now. My two choices would be Stanford, OSU, then maybe USC. But again, USC is pulling talent regardless.

 

[texbender]

The Baylor alums I know are all on board with the decision to fire Briles.

 

[dublinirish]

If you could pick one school to plummet and your measure was 'how much it helps ND recruiting', who would it be? I'd say Stanford. I think with a normal HC, they're nothing again. But OSU would rebound with a power hire and probably recruit better than us still, albiet not as good as they are now. My two choices would be Stanford, OSU, then maybe USC. But again, USC is pulling talent regardless.

Stanford goes in the can this probably makes USC stronger especially when recruiting CA. I'd still like to see them go downhill though

 

[PANDFAN]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Baylor Pres Starr to speak at 2016 Southern Association of Colleges on Title IX on December 6, 2016 <a href="https://t.co/te1cb6AWAh">https://t.co/te1cb6AWAh</a></p>— C.A.R.E. Conference (@drexelcare) <a href="https://twitter.com/drexelcare/status/736152119955361792">May 27, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[Monk]

Dan Wetzel's take on the situation. It has to be a joke.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/why-nc...-latest-depraved-scandal-002053224-ncaaf.html

And in that vein, let this be a time to pause for all those howling for the NCAA to come in and sanction the Baylor football team. When dealing with unreported or essentially covered-up sexual assaults, NCAA bylaws just don't seem too important. Or they shouldn't.

If everyone agrees that football became too central of a focus, then isn’t handling this scandal via football penalties just an exacerbation of the problem?

This is a criminal matter, a civil matter, a Department of Education matter and, most importantly, a matter that victims of the players will struggle to deal with for the rest of their lives. It’s serious. It’s sickening. It’s societal.

To boil it down to a decrease in grants of aid or recruiting visits is to trivialize it even further. For a moment, just forget about football.

Can't you have a Criminal, civil, and educational matter as well as punish the program? I just don't understand this argument.

 

[ulukinatme]

Why is everyone rushing to pat Baylor on the back like they did something big? Like they are the new "conscience of college football", we need to "mark this day down", this to me is akin to letting go of a pot handle after you have third degree burns...yeah great job Baylor!

Yeah, kind of why I stopped writing my above response and said "Fuck it." A lot of pundits didn't think he would get the axe. Briles was kind of their golden child that brought Baylor out of obscurity. I then thought about it some more, considering the numerous allegations and cover up. This was going to be the result one way or another, public outcry would have demanded his head I think. This is every bit as bad, or worse, than the Penn State scandal. There were more victims, but the cover up didn't go on as long.

 

[Ndaccountant]

Three members of Baylor's 2016 top-20 recruiting class that signed in February said they have not been officially notified one way or the other by the school if they will be released from their letters-of-intent. The signees asked not to be identified at this point said they have already been reaching out to other schools to gauge their interest. Four Power 5 recruiters told me Thursday they expect most of the Bears' 2016 class to end up looking at other schools with Art Briles' firing.

Jeremy Crabtree from ESPN

 

[dublinirish]

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[Irish2155]

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Bye.

Who is Baylor again? That one team somewhere in TX?

 

[Irish2155]

I know this is an institution decision but considering the circumstances think the NCAA should let transfers without sitting out a year. I mean there are some kids that actually do not rape women on that team.

 

[ACamp1900]

Calling it now... Saban retires ~2 years from now... Bama becomes trash again, hires Briles bc, 'fvk it, he wins games....'

 

[pkt77242]

I know this is an institution decision but considering the circumstances think the NCAA should let transfers without sitting out a year. I mean there are some kids that actually do not rape women on that team.

The NCAA can have some power over it if they so choose.




* Well at least I believe that they can.

 

[koonja]

Calling it now... Saban retires ~2 years from now... Bama becomes trash again, hires Briles bc, 'fvk it, he wins games....'

Awful defense and throwing 45 times a game? Bammers would burn their trailers in protest. I wouldn't wish that on T Town.

Speaking of, where have him and OMM been?

 

[Irish2155]

Calling it now... Saban retires ~2 years from now... Bama becomes trash again, hires Briles bc, 'fvk it, he wins games....'

Oh man...probably. It is amazing...as a coach, just don't get fired for losing (that is the key). Who cares how much you cheat, bang your intern assistant or look the other way on rape or any other legal matters.

Just don't get fired for losing. There is always a, oh lets just say Louisville, out there who will hire you again.

 

[Irish2155]

The NCAA can have some power over it if they so choose.




* Well at least I believe that they can.

If they do, they should enforce it...IMO. It is not the kids fault an institution cannot control their athletic department.