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No, Cack made it about gender when he made that post.

Make any excuse you want and even with italics, not cool.
So, since you're upset with Cack talking (in my opinion) sarcastically about those that will jump at the ~gender~ of the shooter, where is your outrage at Drayer for his discussions on the gender?

It's always interesting to see what you're outraged at, or what deserves scrutiny - bad guy Cack makes a slight at those that are obsessed with drag shows? Very insensitive! Guy gets killed at a traffic stop? Lol RIPBOZO he had it coming sucks to suck.

At the end of the day who cares, Sandy Hook ended any argument about this.
 

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Apologies. Misread/attributed.

So you want to require people to own other guns? The government doesn't know if you or I own a gun. And since a gun registry isn't going to happen, how do you plan on this? Signing an affidavit that I own guns and haven't commit any crimes related to firearms?
I would rather have people who I know have owned other guns for X amount of time with no incidents be the ones with access to heavier duty ammunitions than them just being available to anyone.

You don’t need to have registered a car to get your drivers license. I’d do something similar with guns. Pistols, revolvers, maybe some low caliber bolt action hunting rifles would be the equivalent to your basic class D drivers license. As you go up into more serious weapons you require more serious licenses that are harder to get like a CDL.

If you make the process more of a hassle you’ll get rid of a bunch of the spur of the moment type people right off the bat. For the rest hopefully you’d be able to weed out the really crazy ones as they’re trying to get the license required to buy the gun.
 

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Do we think banning of assault type weapons would fix the problem? IMO, these people have some issues that are driving them and they will come up with another way to have multiple killings if something like an AR-15 isn't available whether it's using multiple handguns or homemade bombs.

Now more to your point about gun laws, as I've said before I'm in the middle. Other than target practice, what's the purpose of owning an AR-15? I don't see a waiting period as a big deal. There has to be some middle ground, but I don't know what it is.
According to the stats Cack posted last page it seems the ban in 94 had an impact and the trend seems to have reversed since the law was repealed in 04.
 

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So, since you're upset with Cack talking (in my opinion) sarcastically about those that will jump at the ~gender~ of the shooter, where is your outrage at Drayer for his discussions on the gender?

It's always interesting to see what you're outraged at, or what deserves scrutiny - bad guy Cack makes a slight at those that are obsessed with drag shows? Very insensitive! Guy gets killed at a traffic stop? Lol RIPBOZO he had it coming sucks to suck.

At the end of the day who cares, Sandy Hook ended any argument about this.
He was itching to put that unconfirmed rumor out there. Blaming me for it. Typical.
 

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According to the stats Cack posted last page it seems the ban in 94 had an impact and the trend seems to have reversed since the law was repealed in 04.
Among many other things we could act on today… yea that was a clear finding.
 

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So, since you're upset with Cack talking (in my opinion) sarcastically about those that will jump at the ~gender~ of the shooter, where is your outrage at Drayer for his discussions on the gender?

It's always interesting to see what you're outraged at, or what deserves scrutiny - bad guy Cack makes a slight at those that are obsessed with drag shows? Very insensitive! Guy gets killed at a traffic stop? Lol RIPBOZO he had it coming sucks to suck.

At the end of the day who cares, Sandy Hook ended any argument about this.
Six people were murdered by this lady. Not the time or place for that kind of a comment, sarcasm or not.
 

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Shooter was being treated for an "emotional disorder," police chief says​

From CNN's Michael Hayes

The shooter was under care for an "emotional disorder," Metro Nashville Police Chief John Drake said Tuesday.
"Law enforcement knew nothing about the treatment" 28-year-old Aubrey Hale was receiving, he added.
Hale's parents "felt that (Hale) should not own weapons" and were under the impression Hale had sold one weapon and "did not own any more," Drake said.
"As it turned out, (Hale) had been hiding several weapons within the house," Drake said.
 

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Apologies. Misread/attributed.

So you want to require people to own other guns? The government doesn't know if you or I own a gun. And since a gun registry isn't going to happen, how do you plan on this? Signing an affidavit that I own guns and haven't commit any crimes related to firearms?
If there was a National gun registry like Gattaca proposed they would know. Who says this will never happen?
 

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Six people were murdered by this lady. Not the time or place for that kind of a comment, sarcasm or not.
Maybe if you ask nice he’ll apologize for interrupting your perpetual thoughts and prayers for victims while advocating for doing Jack shit about it.
 

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Six people were murdered by this lady. Not the time or place for that kind of a comment, sarcasm or not.
Ok, I'll explain it to you. Here is why what Cack said is literally a nothingburger.

The target of the joke? You, and everyone that thinks about how evil drag shows are. There is nothing in his post that makes light of what actually happened or excuses the actions of the shooter. The joke runs separately from the actual issue of some deranged physco lighting up a school.

Why haven't you explained why you take issue with what Cack said, and then with what Drayer says? He is talking about media excuses/hoops/whatever fringe issue etc. If you're concerned about time/place, wouldn't this be an issue with you? Surely?

Just admit it, you don't like Cack's views so you feign outrage over a comment that has nothing to do with the event and then act like you are morally superior. When we have all seen the types of posts that immediate follow the daily shooting of some random petty criminal and the typical group will say shit like "Oh well, fuck around find out" "stupid prizes for stupid games", and where are you to pipe in and say "not the time or place" or is it because you don't actually care about ~time and place~ it's just you taking issue with the poster. Save us the holier than thou stuff.
 

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Ok, I'll explain it to you. Here is why what Cack said is literally a nothingburger.

The target of the joke? You, and everyone that thinks about how evil drag shows are. There is nothing in his post that makes light of what actually happened or excuses the actions of the shooter. The joke runs separately from the actual issue of some deranged physco lighting up a school.

Why haven't you explained why you take issue with what Cack said, and then with what Drayer says? He is talking about media excuses/hoops/whatever fringe issue etc. If you're concerned about time/place, wouldn't this be an issue with you? Surely?

Just admit it, you don't like Cack's views so you feign outrage over a comment that has nothing to do with the event and then act like you are morally superior. When we have all seen the types of posts that immediate follow the daily shooting of some random petty criminal and the typical group will say shit like "Oh well, fuck around find out" "stupid prizes for stupid games", and where are you to pipe in and say "not the time or place" or is it because you don't actually care about ~time and place~ it's just you taking issue with the poster. Save us the holier than thou stuff.
The joke is on you. I never said drag shows were evil. What I've said is I don't think they are appropriate for kids.

I don't classify a mass shooting as the same as some idiot who defies a direct order from the police and ends up dead, but where are you to pipe in on a comment I directed to Cack? Looks like you should save the holier than thou stuff.
 
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The joke is on you. I never said drag shows were evil. What I've said is I don't think they are appropriate for kids.

I don't classify a mass shooting as the same as some idiot who defies a direct order from the police and ends up dead, but where are you to pipe in on a comment I directed to Cack? Looks like you should save the holier than though stuff.
You literally said the other day that the presence of drag performers protesting was grooming lmao. You never were able to justify that either.

But in those situations, you are literally making light of a person losing their life over a petty crime. That is not even remotely the same as what Cack said, that again, had nothing to do with the victims. Why can't you comment on the appropriateness of what Drayer said, why is that different than what Cack posted? It's just the other side of Cack. Shouldn't you be upset with him for discussing this? Why not?

At the end of the day, you're upset at Cack making a joke about the typical crew will be upset at trans people, and think it's appropriate to say a petty criminal deserves to die. You've made that clear.
 

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The PD put out the bodycam footage. Pretty impressive, these guys were not playing around.
 

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Bish, do you consider yourself intelligent? LMAO
Read through the discussion and see who's angry, ranting, cursing, demanding their way like a spoiled child, and having a temper tantrum, then see who's calm and discussing things like an adult, then decide for yourself.
 

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You literally said the other day that the presence of drag performers protesting was grooming lmao. You never were able to justify that either.

But in those situations, you are literally making light of a person losing their life over a petty crime. That is not even remotely the same as what Cack said, that again, had nothing to do with the victims. Why can't you comment on the appropriateness of what Drayer said, why is that different than what Cack posted? It's just the other side of Cack. Shouldn't you be upset with him for discussing this? Why not?

At the end of the day, you're upset at Cack making a joke about the typical crew will be upset at trans people, and think it's appropriate to say a petty criminal deserves to die. You've made that clear.

I never said drag shows were evil. What I've said is I don't think they are appropriate for kids.
Comprehension.

Good for you sticking to your opinion. It's wrong, but I admire your fortitude.
 

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Maybe if you ask nice he’ll apologize for interrupting your perpetual thoughts and prayers for victims while advocating for doing Jack shit about it.
Stop with the misguided emotionalism. This is why the problem doesn't get solved. People like you wring your hands and demand we do something about it, but what you demand will have little to no effect because it's a feel good measure, not something that deals with the actual underlying problem.

No reasonable person demands that all men get their penis cut off because a small percentage of penis owners commit rape. We understand that rape isn't a penis problem, it's a behavior problem. No reasonable person demands that we ban cars because a small percentage of car owners get drunk and kill or injure someone in a crash. We understand that drunk driving isn't a car issue, it's a substance abuse and behavior issue. Reasonable people who understand what's going on instead of just parroting what they've been told to be outraged about dont demand that we ban guns because a very small percentage of gun owners commit murder with them. We understand that murder isn't a gun problem, it's a behavior problem.

To lower the instance of rape or drunk driving accidents, we address the behavior of those committing such acts, because THAT'S where the problem lies. Do you really want to reduce gun violence? Really? Stop wringing your hands and making useless demands. Instead, address the actual reason: bad behavior and the causes of such behavior.
 

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Comprehension.

Good for you sticking to your opinion. It's wrong, but I admire your fortitude.

1) Is what Drayer posted an issue with you? Yes or no?
2) If it's not an issue why?
3) What is the difference between his posts on the "gender" aspect and Cack's?
 

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These people here are literally too dense to understand the full right of GOP run state legislatures have been going full bore on drag shows and lGTBQ hate and banning woke …it literally went over their head that the real threat to kids isn’t these two minority groups but guns.
 

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These people here are literally too dense to understand the full right of GOP run state legislatures have been going full bore on drag shows and lGTBQ hate and banning woke …it literally went over their head that the real threat to kids isn’t these two minority groups but guns.
The fact that the shooter of six innocent people yesterday, including three children, was one of your beloved, "perfectly normal" transsexuals says otherwise. The shooter was a very confused, mixed up person with identity issues and obviously anger issues.
 

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So you want our schools to look like prisons? Please, do not conflate this with me saying, "you want our schools to be prisons." I am saying, your solution to school shootings is to make them LOOK like prisons...

I mean we're talking about the US FUCKING A, the supposed greatest nation on Earth to ever exist, and people want our children to be walking past armed guards to learn how to read, write, add, subtract, and interact in positive ways??? This sounds like a school in Somalia.
Almost 400 million guns in this country, you'll never confiscate them all...especially when it'll only be law abiding citizens that turn them in. Nevermind the fact you can 3D print ghost guns these days, it makes confiscating them irrelevant.

The whole reason psychos target schools is because they're easy targets. It's not rocket science. Lots of children that won't be able to fight back, typically just one adult per classroom, and very few deterrents if any once they're in the door. "You want our schools to be prisons?" No, I want our schools to be safe. A lot of schools already have strong measures in place to prevent people on the outside getting in, some of which include outside doors being locked with one buzzed in access point at the front of the school. That needs to be a mandatory rule across the board, but further actions need to take place. There should be at least one armed officer in each school per X number of students (Job creation!). There should be safety measures for classrooms. Not every teacher needs to be armed, but if they're comfortable handling a firearm it should be considered as an option. Bulletproof glass on classroom doors. I've seen where one school deploys a fog in the hallways in the case of an active shooter. Any and all options should be considered.

I promise you that the problem will never go away until people start realizing why schools are the ones that keep being targeted.
 
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