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"for football recruiting" is the key quote. Stanford is far easier once you get in, but Notre Dame is easier to get into once you're there. How many kids, ever, have flunked out of Stanford football?

As for that Sampson quote, my first thought was CB Andre Seldon. Top 300 player from Michigan, and none of ND, Penn State, or MSU offer?
 

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Stanford has higher GPA minimums than we do, which precludes a lot of players. ND has historically had more wiggle room for "exceptions" too, but is rather inflexible on credits.

The bogus part of the Stanford myth is that they act like they're taking a bunch of Rhodes Scholars but their floor is a 1000 SAT and 3.0 GPA. And then classes are a joke once you're in.

Michigan has and always will take anyone who can fog a mirror.

I can vouch for this. I was recruited by both. When I visited Stanford, they had me go to classes with the athletes. They all told me about how tutors and teachers and classes were there to help the athletes. And they point you in certain directions in regards to degrees and such.

Notre Dame players said it was on you to get the degree you want. Resources are there, but you are treated much more like a student than athlete at the university.
 

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From espn.com

Michigan's Harbaugh: I wouldn't lie about transfer

ANN ARBOR, Mich. -- Jim Harbaugh lashed out Tuesday night at Cincinnati coach Luke Fickell, who said Michigan did not support a transfer's attempt to immediately play for the Bearcats.

Harbaugh said he told Fickell months ago he wouldn't lie about what he knew regarding the transfer of James Hudson.

Fickell told The Athletic that Michigan didn't support Hudson's waiver request.

"They can say they didn't undermine it, but they didn't work to help the kid out,'' Fickell said in the story published Tuesday. "All the power is in the hands of the school a player is leaving. If they want to help, they can help them become eligible.''

Harbaugh said that's simply not true.

"Michigan did not block the waiver,'' said Harbaugh, adding it was the NCAA's decision to deny Hudson's request.

The NCAA does not comment on specific waiver cases, and schools rarely do, even when an athlete waives protection under federal privacy laws.

Hudson, a seldom-used offensive lineman, transferred to Cincinnati last year. The NCAA denied his waiver request in the spring to be eligible this season. Hudson posted on Twitter that mental health prompted his transfer, but his request was denied because he did not reveal the issues at Michigan.

Hudson, who is from Toledo, Ohio, signed to play at Michigan in 2017, and he redshirted as a freshman and played sparingly as a sophomore.

Harbaugh said Fickell called him in March, trying to coach him what to say about the events leading up to Hudson's transfer.

"I told him, 'I'm not going to lie,''' Harbaugh recalled telling Fickell.

Harbaugh said he talked to Fickell about Hudson switching from offensive to defensive line. As Harbaugh has often said this summer, he believes all college athletes should be able to transfer once without sitting out the following season.

"That's how I personally feel about this issue,'' he said.
 

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Harbaugh is kind of right that it's up to the NCAA, and I'm sure Michigan didn't block it... they just went radio silent, which is the same thing as blocking it lol.

If a school writes a letter to the NCAA saying "[PLAYER] is transferring for legitimate reasons, and we support his case for immediate eligibility," then the NCAA is going to approve it. Ohio State does it for all the kids that transfer, basically, which is why Tathan got immediate eligibility at Miami, and why Blue Smith will be immediately eligible at UC. And I've heard that USC did it for Amir Carlisle, which is why he was going to be immediately eligible at ND, despite ND being an opponent on the immediate schedule (he got hurt his first year at ND anyway, though).

Harbaugh is just being intentionally obtuse, like the twat he is.
 

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Harbaugh is kind of right that it's up to the NCAA, and I'm sure Michigan didn't block it... they just went radio silent, which is the same thing as blocking it lol.

If a school writes a letter to the NCAA saying "[PLAYER] is transferring for legitimate reasons, and we support his case for immediate eligibility," then the NCAA is going to approve it. Ohio State does it for all the kids that transfer, basically, which is why Tathan got immediate eligibility at Miami, and why Blue Smith will be immediately eligible at UC. And I've heard that USC did it for Amir Carlisle, which is why he was going to be immediately eligible at ND, despite ND being an opponent on the immediate schedule (he got hurt his first year at ND anyway, though).

Harbaugh is just being intentionally obtuse, like the twat he is.

And this wouldn't even be an issue if he hadn't decided to soapbox about players faking mental illness to get transfer waivers.
 

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Harbaugh is kind of right that it's up to the NCAA, and I'm sure Michigan didn't block it... they just went radio silent, which is the same thing as blocking it lol.

If a school writes a letter to the NCAA saying "[PLAYER] is transferring for legitimate reasons, and we support his case for immediate eligibility," then the NCAA is going to approve it. Ohio State does it for all the kids that transfer, basically, which is why Tathan got immediate eligibility at Miami, and why Blue Smith will be immediately eligible at UC. And I've heard that USC did it for Amir Carlisle, which is why he was going to be immediately eligible at ND, despite ND being an opponent on the immediate schedule (he got hurt his first year at ND anyway, though).

Harbaugh is just being intentionally obtuse, like the twat he is.

He really is. The worst.

F*CK Michigan
 

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Withe the retirement of Urban Meyer, Harbaugh might actually be the biggest scumbag in a profession full of scumbags and that's saying something. His treatment of players from pulling scholarships to forcing out players on his team to this recent example with the transfer is shameful. It is kind of shocking that his antics have not fully caught up with him yet.
 

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What is even more amazing is the growing rumors of Urban Liar to USC. Amazing. How many times can he find a way to get out of a program with an excuse when the times get tough only to surface again to huge contracts and attention?
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Luke Fickell has fired back at Jim Harbaugh.<a href="https://t.co/qCnj5jLcwT">https://t.co/qCnj5jLcwT</a></p>— Ashley Bastock (@AshleyBastock42) <a href="https://twitter.com/AshleyBastock42/status/1162032269109989376?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 15, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

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What is even more amazing is the growing rumors of Urban Liar to USC. Amazing. How many times can he find a way to get out of a program with an excuse when the times get tough only to surface again to huge contracts and attention?

He's a salesman. Imagine if he worked for Fuller Brush!
 

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https://thespun.com/college-football/jim-harbaugh-hard-to-beat-cheaters

In Overtime, Bacon examines the NCAA’s allowance for universities to provide players with a full cost of attendance, which provides schools to factor in expenses such as travel, food and laundry – along with other costs not covered by the cost of tuition. At Michigan, Bacon reports that figure comes in at $2,400 for out-of-state players per term both before and after the NCAA made allowances for the full attendance costs. That number only becomes more magnified when compared to SEC programs, which according to the book, totals $5,386 per term at Alabama, $5,586 at Auburn and $5,666 at Tennessee – which represents a 34 percent bump from the previous rate.

Harbaugh, who has made plenty of enemies south of the Mason-Dixon line since taking over at Michigan, has poked the cages of SEC coaches repeatedly and in the book, speaks to the disparity in spending by simply telling Bacon, “(It’s) hard to beat the cheaters.”
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I haven’t read the book but declaring yourself the beacon of morality in college sports is both nauseating and extremely Michigan <a href="https://t.co/RJWYOBBnlz">https://t.co/RJWYOBBnlz</a></p>— Dan Wolken (@DanWolken) <a href="https://twitter.com/DanWolken/status/1164503115736985600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 22, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Also, one such school made the playoff and beat Michigan last year. He’s describing Notre Dame, which doesn’t have a General Studies major like Michigan does. <a href="https://t.co/d44WMIqWZf">https://t.co/d44WMIqWZf</a></p>— Andy Staples (@Andy_Staples) <a href="https://twitter.com/Andy_Staples/status/1164511659563671552?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 22, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One: The book doesn’t come out until Sept. 3 and I didn’t get a review copy. (Pre-order now, kids.) <br><br>Two: Zero context is required to discern that the scenario my man <a href="https://twitter.com/Thee_Matty_D?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Thee_Matty_D</a> described is exactly what Notre Dame faces.<br><br>Three: I’m sorry I hurt your feelings. <a href="https://t.co/JfLNOCiJx1">https://t.co/JfLNOCiJx1</a></p>— Andy Staples (@Andy_Staples) <a href="https://twitter.com/Andy_Staples/status/1164535168490713088?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 22, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What additional context do we need here?<br><br>Notre Dame, like Michigan, has a higher admission standard for athletes than most FBS schools.<br><br>Notre Dame doesn’t have a major that it has traditionally clustered athletes into.<br><br>Notre Dame beat Michigan last year and made the playoff. <a href="https://t.co/h5z6IAPUOH">https://t.co/h5z6IAPUOH</a></p>— Andy Staples (@Andy_Staples) <a href="https://twitter.com/Andy_Staples/status/1164538838506778624?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 22, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">That’s great. Unfortunately, it doesn’t make anything I said factually incorrect. Nor does it change the material point. Notre Dame faces the same challenges and has made a BCS title game and the College Football Playoff. Michigan has done neither. <a href="https://t.co/my5Tbnjlck">https://t.co/my5Tbnjlck</a></p>— Andy Staples (@Andy_Staples) <a href="https://twitter.com/Andy_Staples/status/1164543193930711040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 22, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Be happy to read it, John. But you have to admit that Michigan remains the national champ of holier-than-thou excuse-making. <a href="https://t.co/iUibvm98Rl">https://t.co/iUibvm98Rl</a></p>— Andy Staples (@Andy_Staples) <a href="https://twitter.com/Andy_Staples/status/1164515224906584064?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 22, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">whoa whoa whoa Andy lets not take shots at General Studies majors, I feel personally attacked</p>— T-Bob Hebert (@TBob53) <a href="https://twitter.com/TBob53/status/1164539154346205184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 22, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

LOL
 

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The "sorry i hurt your feelings" bit made my spit my coffee lol pure Ben Shapiro stuff there. Build the Staples statue at ND stadium already and make him a Notre Dame Man thread
 
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Michigan just amazes me. In all of the wrong ways.

Beating them matters more to me than beating Georgia. It'd be a perceived "nail in the coffin" versus "fluke/luck".

Sorry I'm not sorry.
 

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Michigan just amazes me. In all of the wrong ways.

Beating them matters more to me than beating Georgia. It'd be a perceived "nail in the coffin" versus "fluke/luck".

Sorry I'm not sorry.

I agree. While beating a Michigan isnt THAT impressive because Michigan just isnt a National Championship Playoff caliber program, losing to them is a LOT more slap in the face than losing to a Clemson or Alabama badly.
 

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I agree. While beating a Michigan isnt THAT impressive because Michigan just isnt a National Championship Playoff caliber program, losing to them is a LOT more slap in the face than losing to a Clemson or Alabama badly.

^ This
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">whoa whoa whoa Andy lets not take shots at General Studies majors, I feel personally attacked</p>— T-Bob Hebert (@TBob53) <a href="https://twitter.com/TBob53/status/1164539154346205184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 22, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

LOL

Fuck Michigan...one of the other posts from Staples came from a Michigan guy that said "Don't lump Michigan and ND together. ND vacated wins and Michigan never has." Yes, Michigan is the bastion of morality. That's why they let Brendan Gibbons continue to play for their team for several years while covering up his rape, and they did nothing to punish Taylor Lewan who had threatened the victim with more rape if she came forward with her story. Notre Dame is evil though cause they self reported and dismissed a few players for some academic infractions.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A few weeks ago I got sent a copy of this trash book by a PR company and promptly threw it in recycling. <br><br>If y'all want, I will dig it out and FJM its dumbest parts on a episode of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAPN?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PAPN</a>. Possibly employing the <a href="https://twitter.com/ShutdownFullcas?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ShutdownFullcas</a> cast for dramatic readings like a 1920s radio play. <a href="https://t.co/UOXcautI9f">https://t.co/UOXcautI9f</a></p>— Steven Godfrey (@38Godfrey) <a href="https://twitter.com/38Godfrey/status/1164599854045286400?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 22, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A few weeks ago I got sent a copy of this trash book by a PR company and promptly threw it in recycling. <br><br>If y'all want, I will dig it out and FJM its dumbest parts on a episode of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAPN?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PAPN</a>. Possibly employing the <a href="https://twitter.com/ShutdownFullcas?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ShutdownFullcas</a> cast for dramatic readings like a 1920s radio play. <a href="https://t.co/UOXcautI9f">https://t.co/UOXcautI9f</a></p>— Steven Godfrey (@38Godfrey) <a href="https://twitter.com/38Godfrey/status/1164599854045286400?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 22, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

doesn't explain his record vs Ohio St...
 

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You would think that as delusional as scUM fans are they'd at least be able to spell delusional! But then, it does have more than four letters.
 

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This would be why the number one priority this season is beating Meat Chicken

Absolutely. Would I like to beat Georgia? Sure, but if I had the option I'll take a win over Michigan over a win over Georgia any year. Michigan could be 0-11 and I would still rather hand them the loss to make them 0-12. Their team and fans are insufferable and they deserve nothing but misery. It's not enough that they're just down the road from Detroit, which is already a dumpster fire. They need to be beaten into submission.
 

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Absolutely. Would I like to beat Georgia? Sure, but if I had the option I'll take a win over Michigan over a win over Georgia any year. Michigan could be 0-11 and I would still rather hand them the loss to make them 0-12. Their team and fans are insufferable and they deserve nothing but misery. It's not enough that they're just down the road from Detroit, which is already a dumpster fire. They need to be beaten into submission.

I would rather lose to USC, Stanford, Navy, and Georgia + beat Michigan than the other way around. Harbaugh has taken them to a completely new tier of being pompous and insufferable I didn't even know was possible.
 
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