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even if Kallis were to transfer that would be pretty sweet, the rest of the guys are bums
 

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Several Michigan Players Considering Transfer

Several Michigan Players Considering Transfer

Must be the Strength Coach's fault.
 

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This is starting to spread around. One of my scUM friends text me about this earlier today. His opinion was that it makes perfect sense that they would be leaving, and that he doesnt blame them. Hoke isnt turning out the way he hoped, and its definetly a view more and more scUM fans are sharing
 

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Wuddup Taco?

You rang?

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It's plausible. I think their lack of attrition recently is catching up to them- it happens to everyone, some of us just don't oversign to make up for it.

I don't want to give the impression that I'm at all down on Bob Diaco. But. If Michigan begins to tank, how about poaching Mattison? He's worked here before, and he seems to be a pretty good coach and a lights-out recruiter.
 

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it would be nice for them to turn into a dumpster fire and impact their recruiting class :love:
 

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ive never felt that Hoke is the guy SCUM want to bring them back to glory, always get the feeling he is just the Janitor there to mop up and keep things ticking until a real coach comes along (Miles, Harbaugh et al)
 

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ive never felt that Hoke is the guy SCUM want to bring them back to glory, always get the feeling he is just the Janitor there to mop up and keep things ticking until a real coach comes along (Miles, Harbaugh et al)

Les Miles going to scUM would be like a dream coming true!
 

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It's plausible. I think their lack of attrition recently is catching up to them- it happens to everyone, some of us just don't oversign to make up for it.

I don't want to give the impression that I'm at all down on Bob Diaco. But. If Michigan begins to tank, how about poaching Mattison? He's worked here before, and he seems to be a pretty good coach and a lights-out recruiter.

Didn't Mattison trash ND ?
 

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a little more to the rumors

a little more to the rumors

Posted by admin | November 7, 2013
Brady Hoke has pretty much been on a honeymoon with Michigan fan since he uttered the words “this is Michigan fergodsakes.” Yeah, it was adorable and the Maize & Blue faithful ate it up, but that is changing?

Brady isn’t on the hot seat, but he is facing his first adversity since his arrival.

Yesterday, ESPN Columnist Jason Whitlock wrote that Brady Hoke’s trouble stemmed from him “building a very un-Bradylike team.” Whitlock wrote this in his column:

This Michigan team is soft and has low character. It does not reflect the values that have defined Hoke throughout his head-coaching career. The Michigan State train wreck was predictable. Every flaw on this Wolverines team was laid bare in East Lansing. Michigan State’s strengths (high character and toughness) are Michigan’s weaknesses. Hoke’s team was beaten by his mirror coaching image, Mark Dantonio, who took a bunch of three-star grinders with chips on their shoulders and demolished Hoke’s collection of recruiting all-stars.

Brady Hoke, lost in the riches of Michigan, has momentarily lost who he is.

I think he may be onto something.

Yes, Lewan is a hot-head, but he is also known as a HUGE advocate and mentor for the younger offensive lineman. He was recruited bu Rich Rodriguez and has been a handful since he arrived in Ann Arbor. I don’t see Lewan as an issue.

BUT, maybe Brady is a bit “5 star struck.” It is obvious that Derrick Green isn’t ready for this level or he would be playing over Fitz Toussaint. Fitz hasn’t done much this year, however, there is nothing keeping Green off the field except himself. He showed up out of shape and got injured early in fall camp. The kid isn’t as advertised at this point in his career. He needs to make himself a better player and stop whining (if it is true) about playing time.

Today, Ace Williams wrote that up to 7 Michigan players are considering a transfer? I don’t know anything about Ace Williams and think most of the article is BS, but I have heard some of the same rumors. I think, like anything, there is a shred of truth in his article and I think there is an interesting relationship between the Whitlock piece.

From the Ace Williams Column:

The source has told me that although the players in question love head coach Brady Hoke and in general they love Michigan, there is a consensus among the players that they were misled during the recruiting process regarding several key points, many of which were the ones that led them to choosing Michigan over a bevy of high-profile programs who courted them.

After reading Ace’s piece, it sure appears to validate Whitlock’s assertions that the kids Brady brought in are “soft and entitled.” After all, the whole bunch is complaining about playing time and scheme and how much they love what Urban Meyer is doing at OSU. Isn’t the first sign of low character the mindset to “cut and run” at the first sign of adversity? Maybe Whitlock got it right, all the evidence so far suggests he nailed it.

I’m not sure where this leads, but I am told by sources that “Michigan never promises recruits anything.” I am fairly certain there will be a couple of transfers, I’m guessing Richardson and Charlton, but I don’t see a mass exodus. These kids would have run into the same issues with any “power” and I’m sure they will see that or transfer to a lesser school to get playing time. If you want to compete at the highest level, there will be competition.

Losing a few players who aren’t living up to expectations could give Brady the first couple of steps in the right direction, building a “Brady-like” team.
 

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Diaco > Mattison. On top of that, if Diaco were to leave I'd love to see Martin move back over to D and we get a real QB coach in here.
 

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Diaco > Mattison. On top of that, if Diaco were to leave I'd love to see Martin move back over to D and we get a real QB coach in here.

Martin came to ND to get his ticket stamped at a major program to bulk up his resume. He's more prepared to be a Div 1 Head Coach than Diaco.

I like to see a real QB coach as well but re-shuffling Martin to defense would be a transient move that would result in 3 DCs in 3 or 4 years.
 
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And just think, they're going to lose 2, maybe even 3 more games this year.
 

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I'll actuy be rooting for them HARD against tOSU.. I mean HARD... like to the point if my UM buddy brings an extra Jersey and UM wins I'd rock it for the rest of the night...
 

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I'll actuy be rooting for them HARD against tOSU.. I mean HARD... like to the point if my UM buddy brings an extra Jersey and UM wins I'd rock it for the rest of the night...

i really don't hate osu because i think they will get passed over...i LOVE watching UM get beat almost as much as PSU and USC
 

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I do suppose it would be comedy to see tOSU get blasted in the title gameagain... although could it please be Oregon doing the stomping and not some sec team.
 

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Michigan has already been sacked twice on their first three dropbacks today against Nebraska. That offensive line is GARBAGE. Pisses me off that we couldn't get any pressure on such a horrid group.
 

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Michigan has already been sacked twice on their first three dropbacks today against Nebraska. That offensive line is GARBAGE. Pisses me off that we couldn't get any pressure on such a horrid group.

How about it. . Supposed to have the best line or top 5 and d didn't do d#ck with pressure
 

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Michigan has already been sacked twice on their first three dropbacks today against Nebraska. That offensive line is GARBAGE. Pisses me off that we couldn't get any pressure on such a horrid group.

Night game though.


(Punches wall, breaks hand)
 

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Although ND is NOT as good as they were last year, I honestly believe the Irish should be undefeated. VERY frustrating to see how terrible UM and OU actually are.

Sheesh.
 

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Although ND is NOT as good as they were last year, I honestly believe the Irish should be undefeated. VERY frustrating to see how terrible UM and OU actually are.

Sheesh.

Devil's advocate could argue we should have lost 2 more. Hindsight sucks. 10-2 or bust baby.....
 
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Lol, if Michigan loses to Nebraska, that's just icing on the cake that is their disastrous finish to this season.

They could very well lose 2/3 after this game, and likely will (@ Iowa, @ North Western, home vs. OSU).
 
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