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Irish YJ

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It’s all a calculated risk. They’re pushing their chips into the middle of the table because Roe v. Wade is the ballgame.

If this opposition to Kavanagh fails, the DNC rigging the primary for Hillary Clinton is going to end up being one of the most impactful political blunders in history.

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They voted 11-8 this morning concerning the motion to proceed to hold the committee vote this afternoon.

Jeff Flake has stated that he will support Kavanaugh

The vote this afternoon is almost 100% likely to approve Kavanaugh and send his nomination to the full Senate.
 

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care to expand?

DNC pushes Clinton through thinking she’ll win the Presidency... she doesn’t... as result we get a conservative court for a couple decades at least.
 

Irish YJ

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DNC pushes Clinton through thinking she’ll win the Presidency... she doesn’t... as result we get a conservative court for a couple decades at least.

So that's assuming,,,, that the assumption would be that Bernie would have beaten Trump? That's what I don't get. I think Trump would have won much easier vs Sanders.

I think the Dems should have planned retirements better in year 6 and 7 of the Obama years.
 

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What an embarrassment. This should have never made it to the light of day. Dr. Cat Lady is 0/4 in witness corroboration - even if true you are just SOL at that point. Only Peabody and Sherman can get the "facts" on this one and they would have to follow this train wreck around the entire summer of 1982 to "prove" anything. I don't get the people saying she was so compelling - it came off as pretty damn rehearsed and anything off the script she was completely lost. I don't doubt something happened to her - I would be surprised if this the only event, just as surprised as if Kavanaugh was the person who did it.

The saddest thing to me - the only Dems that will vote for Brett will be one or two in heavy red states. They will vote out of political expediency, not what is right. This should be a 65/35 confirmation with a pile of Dems denouncing these tactics. The fact they are able to be so much in lockstep is just appalling to me.

First time I have ever fist pumped anything coming out of Lindsay Graham but his point that he voted for Kagan and Sotomayor resonates with a lot of Americans. You are there to qualify them for the seat, not vote on ideology. Also don't think most normal people lose any sleep over Roe v Wade one way or the other. Dying on that hill is not impressing anyone remotely normal, IMO.
 

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So that's assuming,,,, that the assumption would be that Bernie would have beaten Trump? That's what I don't get. I think Trump would have won much easier vs Sanders.

I think the Dems should have planned retirements better in year 6 and 7 of the Obama years.

They are arrogant and assume everyone is in their camp. They could not imagine anyone other than Hillary winning after Obama. In their arrogance they imagined picking up more Senate seats so Hillary could appoint Obama and then whoever the next most liberal person imaginable for the court they could find.
 
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I have no idea what happened to her or not, but she definitely plays the innocent/overly sweet card HARD. It's almost like she's playing naive to things because she thinks it's cute and charming and people will think "oh this poor, sweet lady".
 

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This is a totally sane, serious person.
 

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Man so a lot of people just assume all these allegations are 100% factual. I'm all for a brief investigation of the first one, but I'm not down to call Kav a rapist.
 

Irish YJ

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This is a totally sane, serious person.

She's a nutcase. And she calls people thin skinned for giving her crap. perhaps she would think more of them if they just retreated to their safe spaces...

Left coast born, educated at NYU... Double the fun.
 

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They voted 11-8 this morning concerning the motion to proceed to hold the committee vote this afternoon.

Jeff Flake has stated that he will support Kavanaugh

The vote this afternoon is almost 100% likely to approve Kavanaugh and send his nomination to the full Senate.

So they vote to decide if they're going to vote. lol
 

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One question.....does anyone in America actually believe Blasey Ford?

Sure they may believe Both Kavanaugh and Trump are evil and are willing to put up with the bullshit to stop Kavanaugh from getting approved, but as for Blasey Ford.....

Does anyone at all believe her story?
 

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Supreme Court Nominations: present-1789

Whether the vote of the entire Senate is this week or after the midterms makes little difference since newly elected Senators won't take office until January. The chair Ginsberg hold is traditionally "the Jewish chair" held by a Jewish Justice for quite some time. But if she retires during Trump's tenure, that well may change. (See list of potential nominees on the first page if Trump were to pick from them.)
 

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Supreme Court Nominations: present-1789

Whether the vote of the entire Senate is this week or after the midterms makes little difference since newly elected Senators won't take office until January. The chair Ginsberg hold is traditionally "the Jewish chair" held by a Jewish Justice for quite some time. But if she retires during Trump's tenure, that well may change. (See list of potential nominees on the first page if Trump were to pick from them.)

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well it is kind of outdated.
 

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care to expand?

All of this can be traced back to losing the election, which only happens because they rigged it for HRC. HRC was not only unlikable, but they turned off a large part of their own base that supported Bernie because of how the primary was rigged against him. Those people stayed home or voted third party, leading to Trump's victory. A perfect example is Michigan... I heard on Bill Maher after the election that if you just take the ballots that voted straight-ticket Democrat but left President "blank", ostensibly because they couldn't bring themselves to vote for HRC, that it would've flipped the state in her favor.

So they put themselves in this situation by being corrupt, costing themselves two SCOTUS seats that taken together have the ability to undo decades of liberal policy.

In a desperate attempt to stop Kavanagh confirmation, they withheld information for many weeks trying to run out the clock to the mid-terms where they could maybe take back the Senate. These tactics are galvanizing the Right... which until this point was very split and parts of it very displeased with Trump... and moreover it's rubbing a lot of people in the center the wrong way. It has potential to not only fail in main goal of preventing a conservative court, but totally backfire and cost them big in 2018 and 2020 when they had been surging in special elections and polling since Trump's election.

And it can literally all be traced back to the decision to rig a primary for a corrupt, unlikable person.
 

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All of this can be traced back to losing the election, which only happens because they rigged it for HRC. HRC was not only unlikable, but they turned off a large part of their own base that supported Bernie because of how the primary was rigged against him. Those people stayed home or voted third party, leading to Trump's victory. A perfect example is Michigan... I heard on Bill Maher after the election that if you just take the ballots that voted straight-ticket Democrat but left President "blank", ostensibly because they couldn't bring themselves to vote for HRC, that it would've flipped the state in her favor.

So they put themselves in this situation by being corrupt, costing themselves two SCOTUS seats that taken together have the ability to undo decades of liberal policy.

In a desperate attempt to stop Kavanagh confirmation, they withheld information for many weeks trying to run out the clock to the mid-terms where they could maybe take back the Senate. These tactics are galvanizing the Right... which until this point was very split and parts of it very displeased with Trump... and moreover it's rubbing a lot of people in the center the wrong way. It has potential to not only fail in main goal of preventing a conservative court, but totally backfire and cost them big in 2018 and 2020 when they had been surging in special elections and polling since Trump's election.

And it can literally all be traced back to the decision to rig a primary for a corrupt, unlikable person.

All facts my guy- I'm centered in many ways and this was just horribly done. If they had an issue with Kavanagh, why bring this up this damn late in his career? How did he get this far and nobody say nothing.......until now?

They WAITED since the beginning of the year to bring this up NOW. That's what bothers me more than anything else. Seems they really don't care about justice - just political points.
 

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I would have voted Trump before Clinton but I too left it blank, and yeah... after the last year or so and now this... 'partisan' can prob describe my voting practices over the next few elections. I am so turned off by the left over their post Trump actions that I'm seeing the Republicans as the only option, which says something considering how turned off by them I was in the year or two leading up to 2016.
 

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Jeff Flake...lmao this dude talking about how tough things are and now we need to delay another week? Does he actually think thats gonna be good for the country at all? Another week.
 

IrishLax

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Can we get Giblets or KPENN to putt odds on when we think Lax stops voting dem?

Haha I’m 100% voting Democrat for President in 2020 for any conceivable candidate. Don’t want to derail SCOTUS thread, but just because I’m disgusted with how the Kavanagh allegations are being handled doesn’t mean my policy positions or dislike for Trump has changed.
 

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Haha I’m 100% voting Democrat for President in 2020 for any conceivable candidate. Don’t want to derail SCOTUS thread, but just because I’m disgusted with how the Kavanagh allegations are being handled doesn’t mean my policy positions or dislike for Trump has changed.

Hypothetically, what would you do if the choice was Maxine Waters or Donald Trump. LOL
 
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