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And on a different note:

https://yellowhammernews.com/crimson-tide-football-receives-2019-afca-academic-achievement-award/

Crimson Tide football receives 2019 AFCA Academic Achievement Award

The American Football Coaches Association announced Thursday that the Alabama football program, which had a 100% graduation rate for 2017-18, is among six recipients of the 2019 Academic Achievement Award.

Others who received the honor this year include the Air Force Academy, Clemson, Louisville, Rice and Utah. The NCAA’s single-year Academic Progress Rate (APR) is used to select the winner and all six schools posted perfect scores of 1,000 for 2017-18.

The eight Tide graduates who had degrees in hand before the season opener against Duke are Giles Amos, Mike Bernier, Shyheim Carter, Landon Dickerson, Miller Forristall, Anfernee Jennings, Chris Owens and Matt Womack.

“Since 2013, Alabama has seen 158 degrees earned (graduate and undergraduate) by players who were still suiting up for the Crimson Tide after having graduated,” a press release stated. “Since the 2010 season, Alabama has seen an impressive 24 players earn a master’s degree before stepping foot on the field for the final time.”
 

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Tough break for Tua. Feel bad for the kid.

Agree but serves Saban right. You are playing a 4-5 team. You should not need Tua. Let him rest up for Auburn. Will be very tough to beat Auburn without him.
 

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Agree but serves Saban right. You are playing a 4-5 team. You should not need Tua. Let him rest up for Auburn. Will be very tough to beat Auburn without him.

up by 4 scores and he's still playing to "practice the two minute drill" after being banged up for two weeks....

F'ing stupid... Saban looked shook during the half time comments.
 

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Tua's injury is very likely a season-ending one that will require surgery in the next 24 hours. This was almost certainly his last college game if that's the case.
 

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Tua's injury is very likely a season-ending one that will require surgery in the next 24 hours. This was almost certainly his last college game if that's the case.

Very sad if that’s the case. Really liked the kid. Definitely disagree with how Saban managed the end of his career.
 

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Bama fans will spend the next few decades wondering what could've been with Tua if he'd been able to stay healthy.

I know I speak for all ND fans that this sucks for the young man. He’s been the ultimate gamer & always shows class. He still has tons to be proud of in his time at Bama.

Not much to complain about when it comes to Saban but my knee jerk reaction is that this falls on him for trying to run up the score to gain favor w/ the CFP. No excuses for not letting Jones take the reins. It’s Bama and you’re up by multiple scores. Inexcusable.
 

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Bama fans will spend the next few decades wondering what could've been with Tua if he'd been able to stay healthy.

Such a shame. Hate it for the kid. And I was hoping for Chaos and you guys getting that 4th spot.


Time to fire Saban. Send him to ND for penance.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hearing Tua Tagovailoa’s hip injury is serious. Hip fracture. Similar to Bo Jackson’s career-ending injury. Surgery tonight or tomorrow morning. Praying for Tua and his family. 🙏</p>— Jim Nagy (@JimNagy_SB) <a href="https://twitter.com/JimNagy_SB/status/1195807410088226817?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 16, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tua Tagovailoa was airlifted to St. Vincent’s Medical Center in Birmingham. Nick Saban called it a hip injury that was possibly “serious” in on-field interview at halftime. Source says there was concern before end of game it was a “very serious” injury. MRI and scans next.</p>— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1195809471248977920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 16, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

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as s life long raider fan who watched Bo Jackson go down....even before it was reported - it looked very similar to Bo Jackson's football career ending injury against Cincy. Cant say how serious it is, i'm not saying its career ending, but it could be very bad.
 
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This just feels sickening. What a talented and all around good kid, and now this.
 

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Bo’s injury was only career ending because they didn’t treat it for months and by time they did it was too late... he will be fine long term with quality attention
 

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My understanding was that Bo was done the moment the injury happened due to all the blood vessel damage that occurred causing the bone to simply die. The fact that they were slow in their treatment of it really never mattered at the end of the day. Who really knows the true though.

As far as Tua, I hope this isn’t career ending. Prayers for him and his family tonight.
 

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My understanding was that Bo was done the moment the injury happened due to all the blood vessel damage that occurred causing the bone to simply die. The fact that they were slow in their treatment of it really never mattered at the end of the day. Who really knows the true though.

As far as Tua, I hope this isn’t career ending. Prayers for him and his family tonight.

My understanding was everything died exactly as you stated but ONLY because it was never properly treated in the moment, everything died over time. I’m a huge Bo Jackson fan and that’s what I always heard. That’s what his 30 for 30 stayed too, but you’re right who knows. Let’s both hope I’m right tho,... Tua does seem like a good kid
 

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My understanding was everything died exactly as you stated but ONLY because it was never properly treated in the moment, everything died over time.

That’s probably a more accurate account. I remember watching the game and when Bo went down. I was shocked when it came out that he had been seriously injured.
 

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This is prime example why you don't leave your QB in when you have a hapless opponent floating. Bama was up 35-7 and Saban was running a flippin 2 min drill to score more points. A 2 min drill up by 30 pts!?!?!

Bad luck to the kid, bad break for the team, screw you Saban.
 
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I know I speak for all ND fans that this sucks for the young man. He’s been the ultimate gamer & always shows class. He still has tons to be proud of in his time at Bama.

Not much to complain about when it comes to Saban but my knee jerk reaction is that this falls on him for trying to run up the score to gain favor w/ the CFP. No excuses for not letting Jones take the reins. It’s Bama and you’re up by multiple scores. Inexcusable.

Well said, man. Feel for the young man. Hope he is able to get back from this a stronger person.

Not a fan of Nick Saban, but wish the best for Tua.
 

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This is prime example why you don't leave your QB in when you have a hapless opponent floating. Bama was up 35-7 and Saban was running a flippin 2 min drill to score more points. A 2 min drill up by 30 pts!?!?!

Bad luck to the kid, bad break for the team, screw you Saban.

Not exactly. The reason Tua was still in wasn't to run up the score. Bama had plenty of opportunity to do that in the 2nd half and didn't. It was to get in some "actual game conditions" practice of the 2 minute drill. Using out-of-hand games as "quality scrimmage time" to practice certain things is common. Do I wish in hindsight that Saban had pulled him? Of course, but I understand why he was still playing.
 

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sounds a bit more optimistic....

Alabama quarterback Tua Tagovailoa will miss the remainder of this season after suffering a dislocated right hip Saturday in the Crimson Tide's 38-7 win over Mississippi State, Alabama orthopedic surgeon Dr. Lyle Cain said in a statement.

Tagovailoa also suffered a posterior wall fracture, sources confirmed to ESPN, and medical officials are continuing to evaluate his injury to determine the best course of treatment. He is expected to make a full recovery, Cain said.

https://www.espn.com/college-footba...ack-tua-tagovailoa-season-done-dislocated-hip
 

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Surgeon explains Tua’s hip injury, Bo Jackson connection and long-term outlook (Al.com)

Like Bo Jackson?

Instant fear surrounded the connection between Tagovailoa's injury and the one that ended Bo Jackson's pro football career.

Yes, Jackson dislocated his hip being tackled in a 1991 game for the Oakland Raiders. And he had the same fracture as Jackson.

So, what made Jackson's injury so life-changing? The multi-sport star suffered from Avascular necrosis or AVN in the aftermath of his dislocation and fracture.

"What can happen with the dislocation is that blood vessels will either tear or they'll be placed on stretch for so long that the bone itself will lose its blood supply and that will cause death of the bone," Banffy said. "If you get it reduced right away, the idea is that will minimize the risk. But this is still something that you have to watch and it might not even present itself for a couple of months, similar to the way it did with Bo Jackson."

The statement released by Alabama's team orthopedist Saturday night stated the hip was reduced at the stadium before being transported to St. Vincent's in Birmingham. Reducing a hip means putting it back in socket.

Could Modern Medicine Have Saved Bo Jackson's Career? (Deadspin)

What happens next is crucial—and time-sensitive. First, you need a prompt reduction of the joint, which just means getting it back into place. When out of place, still-intact femoral-supplying blood vessels can be stretched or impinged upon, restricting blood flow. Any disruption in blood flow can start a chain reaction of avascular necrosis (AVN), the bone disease we mentioned earlier, and the likelihood increases greatly when time between injury and reduction passes six hours.2 I'd say Bo was lucky to have such a quick reduction, but as we'll see, his injury was plagued by a nearly perfect storm of complications.

Avascular necrosis is rare, but it's one of the most severe complications in hip injuries. It shows up in 3-15 percent of hip dislocations, and is less common in subluxations.4 Decreased blood supply—as minor as a 20 percent temporary decrease—can cause the death of cells within the femur.3 These dead regions can be surgically repaired, but the healing process disrupts the stability of the bone, predisposing the femur to fracture. With a new break, disruption of blood flow occurs again, causing more cell death. It's a vicious cycle. This process of cell death, resorption, revascularizing, weakening, fracture, and cell death repeats and progressively weakens the bone until collapse of the joint occurs, requiring full hip replacement.4

Once this process gets rolling, prognosis is poor and it's generally a matter of when the hip will be replaced, not if. AVN is difficult to diagnose early. When Bo's injury occurred in 1991, the possible complications were known, and methods of diagnosing established, but the process was still unrefined.

Prevention is the first line of defense here. MRIs and angiographs—injections of dye into the vessels followed by X-rays that visualize flow patterns—can demonstrate damage to vital blood vessels before extensive cell death occurs. The last 20 years has seen great strides in imaging quality, allowing analysis of fine structural integrity, and we know about the best timing, types, and views to implement for specific injuries. Immediate X-rays, CTs, and MRIs are necessary for visualizing dislocations or bleeding into the joint, but aren't effective in visualizing AVN until four or six weeks post-injury.3 It appears bone scans may be effective in catching earlier avascular necrosis progression by showing increased uptake of radioisotopes before damage would be visible on MRI. It's as simple as, we know a little more, and our equipment is a lot better.

The best chance today's medical community could have given Bo for a full career would've been the complete prevention of avascular necrosis through improved imaging techniques and injury management. Our understanding of traumatic hip injuries has improved dramatically since Bo Jackson's retirement, and so has the treatment. But it's likely his prognosis would only be slightly improved today. His treatment was almost certainly thorough and prompt, and we can assume his avascular necrosis was diagnosed quickly. Medical opinion on progressive AVN is unchanged over the decades: Don't ever play football again. Bo Jackson's hip was a ticking time bomb of decay. Not even he could play NFL football on one of those.
 
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It's funny. ND fans are absolutely dismayed with how the season went. But imagine how Alabama fans feel. Sadly, ND is used to having disappointing seasons but this has to be the worst Alabama season in over a decade. Same record as ND, too. But there is no way they lose to Michigan.
 

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Alabama fans expect the following players to declare early for the draft. Most if not all are projected to be drafted in the top 100.

Possible Early Entrants (4)
Tua (depending on his health and projection, possibly second QB taken) - Announcement Jan 6
Henry Ruggs, WR
Devonte Smith, WR
Najee Harris, RB

Going Pro (3) - all with first round grades
Jerry Jeudy. WR
Jedrick Wills, OT
Xavier McKinney, S

Announcing he will return (2)
Alex Leatherwood, LOT
Dylan Moses, LB - though may reconsider based on loss of value contract


Graduating without eligibility left (6) are:
Terrell Lewis, LB
Raewkon Davis, LB
Ben Davis, LB
Trevon Diggs, CB
Shyheim Carter, CB
Jared Mayden, S

Imagine your starting QB, RB, all your WRs, both Tackles, a top DE, all your starting LBs and the entire starting secondary except for one (Surtain), who are all rated as top 100 draftees - and all could enter the draft. Is it any wonder that Alabama fans had high expectations?

Joshua McMillan, LB - had an early season-ending injury and has been granted a sixth year, if he chooses.
 
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