30for30-Randy Moss

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Good segment on ESPN right now about Randy Moss, and how he grew up.
 

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Ugh if he had kept his nose clean and lived his dream to play at Notre Dame.


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Good lord I wish he would have came to ND.
I do now have a greater appreciation for the guy and his circumstances. Not giving him a pass, or saying he's a saint.... I just understand him a bit better. What a FREAK.
 

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I think Chalky White from Boardwalk Empire narrated it. Good stuff.
 

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I think Chalky White from Boardwalk Empire narrated it. Good stuff.
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I never knew Bobby Howard was best friends growing up with Randy. Loved Little Bobby Howard.


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I never knew Bobby Howard was best friends growing up with Randy. Loved Little Bobby Howard.


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Me too. I would have loved for them to go deeper into the lives of Bobby and their friend that is now on the streets.
 

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ESPN is rebroadcasting now if anyone wants to know.
 

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It was really weird seeing the people I know and spots I've been to on many occasion. The 7-11 they kept showing is terrible, it's been robbed like 5 times in the past year.
 

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I never knew Bobby Howard was best friends growing up with Randy. Loved Little Bobby Howard.


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If only you could've seen Howard, Moss and Jason Williams when they played basketball.
 

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The shame that this ESPN broadcast brings to light is the racial sourness that still exists to this day. Just look at Obama.
 

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The shame that this ESPN broadcast brings to light is the racial sourness that still exists to this day. Just look at Obama.

Don't really understand what you're trying to say here. Anyhow, pretty good 30 for 30.
 

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They mentioned that no one had ever got their probation revoked for a first failed drug test,,,,, until Moss. If that's true, IMO he did get screwed. Not sure if it was racism, or the fact he spurned WVU (didn't even visit). He was wrong for smoking weed on probation (more stupid than anything else), and wrong for not even visiting WVU, but that's not enough "bad" for me to revoke.

I had know idea his mom was so strict, and no idea he grew up in the church. sad stuff about the town, and history of HS athletes in general. Howard seems to have turned out to be a real, first class guy.
 

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They mentioned that no one had ever got their probation revoked for a first failed drug test,,,,, until Moss. If that's true, IMO he did get screwed. Not sure if it was racism, or the fact he spurned WVU (didn't even visit). He was wrong for smoking weed on probation (more stupid than anything else), and wrong for not even visiting WVU, but that's not enough "bad" for me to revoke.



I had know idea his mom was so strict, and no idea he grew up in the church. sad stuff about the town, and history of HS athletes in general. Howard seems to have turned out to be a real, first class guy.


I disagree. I don't think he was wrong at all for not visiting West Virginia. He wasn't interested in them, so why waste his and everyone else's time.


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I disagree. I don't think he was wrong at all for not visiting West Virginia. He wasn't interested in them, so why waste his and everyone else's time.


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Waste of time maybe, but even a courtesy unofficial would have been nice. The fact that his mother let him only take 3 of the NCAA 5 visits gives him a pass to an extent. Not sure why his mom wanted to limit the visits though.
 

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Waste of time maybe, but even a courtesy unofficial would have been nice. The fact that his mother let him only take 3 of the NCAA 5 visits gives him a pass to an extent. Not sure why his mom wanted to limit the visits though.

Not sure where you are from. Almost doesn't matter unless you're talking about West by God Virginia. The Appalachia way is different. For me to go into a history would be too much, only because you can look for yourself. My wife was born and raised a bit south of the northern panhandle along the Ohio River. I can speak out of first hand experience.
 

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Not sure where you are from. Almost doesn't matter unless you're talking about West by God Virginia. The Appalachia way is different. For me to go into a history would be too much, only because you can look for yourself. My wife was born and raised a bit south of the northern panhandle along the Ohio River. I can speak out of first hand experience.

I'm aware of the history of WV, V, and the term West by God Virginia. Not sure I understand what you are trying to say?
 

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Man I miss Randy Moss as a Vikings fan. He wore his welcome out towards the end but man that dude was the best athlete to every play the position. Jerry Rice was more accomplished and polished but Randy was a freak of nature. That dude made Daunte Culpepper and at times Todd Bouman look like real NFL quarterbacks, hell he made C-pep look like an All Pro.
 

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Not sure where you are from. Almost doesn't matter unless you're talking about West by God Virginia. The Appalachia way is different. For me to go into a history would be too much, only because you can look for yourself. My wife was born and raised a bit south of the northern panhandle along the Ohio River. I can speak out of first hand experience.

I'm aware of the history of WV, V, and the term West by God Virginia. Not sure I understand what you are trying to say?

Yeah I'm confused on what you're trying to say too.
 

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Man, Moss used to bring it on Monday Night Football. I remember a few games where he was completely unstoppable!
 

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I disagree. I don't think he was wrong at all for not visiting West Virginia. He wasn't interested in them, so why waste his and everyone else's time.


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Waste of time maybe, but even a courtesy unofficial would have been nice. The fact that his mother let him only take 3 of the NCAA 5 visits gives him a pass to an extent. Not sure why his mom wanted to limit the visits though.

Not sure where you are from. Almost doesn't matter unless you're talking about West by God Virginia. The Appalachia way is different. For me to go into a history would be too much, only because you can look for yourself. My wife was born and raised a bit south of the northern panhandle along the Ohio River. I can speak out of first hand experience.

I'm aware of the history of WV, V, and the term West by God Virginia. Not sure I understand what you are trying to say?

Yeah I'm confused on what you're trying to say too.



There are a few programs in the country where you need to take the visit if you are an in state kid that everybody wants to go to Homestate U. Programs like, Inidana Basketball, Nebraska Football, Kentucky Basketball, West Virginia Football. I know a Mr. Basketball from Indiana that never said a nice thing about IU and went to Ohio State... I haven't heard a nice word about him since then. Your name is mud in Indiana and Kentucky when that happens. Social media has made it worse. Take the visit, take an unofficial because it's close. It's not worth the drama caused by the perceived dis to the home state fanatics.

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There are a few programs in the country where you need to take the visit if you are an in state kid that everybody wants to go to Homestate U. Programs like, Inidana Basketball, Nebraska Football, Kentucky Basketball, West Virginia Football. I know a Mr. Basketball from Indiana that never said a nice thing about IU and went to Ohio State... I haven't heard a nice word about him since then. Your name is mud in Indiana and Kentucky when that happens. Social media has made it worse. Take the visit, take an unofficial because it's close. It's not worth the drama caused by the perceived dis to the home state fanatics.

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If my son were blessed with the natural talent his father lacks, he would not be allowed to consider Kentucky basketball. I don't mean he wouldn't be allowed to go. I mean, he wouldn't be allowed to think about it until the one-and-done concept is gone. The locals be damned (that's true regardless of where I live).
 

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If my son were blessed with the natural talent his father lacks, he would not be allowed to consider Kentucky basketball. I don't mean he wouldn't be allowed to go. I mean, he wouldn't be allowed to think about it until the one-and-done concept is gone. The locals be damned (that's true regardless of where I live).

Amen!
 

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If my son were blessed with the natural talent his father lacks, he would not be allowed to consider Kentucky basketball. I don't mean he wouldn't be allowed to go. I mean, he wouldn't be allowed to think about it until the one-and-done concept is gone. The locals be damned (that's true regardless of where I live).


I feel the same way about the UK program but if you think that their isn't serious blowback from having that stance when you live there, you don't understand the culture at all.

My best friend in high school played at IU. He knew going to ND was the better move and it's what he wanted but saying no to Bobby Knight and his legion of worshipers in the mid 80's was nearly impossible.

Until you've lived it, you can't wrap your head around it.

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There are a few programs in the country where you need to take the visit if you are an in state kid that everybody wants to go to Homestate U. Programs like, Inidana Basketball, Nebraska Football, Kentucky Basketball, West Virginia Football. I know a Mr. Basketball from Indiana that never said a nice thing about IU and went to Ohio State... I haven't heard a nice word about him since then. Your name is mud in Indiana and Kentucky when that happens. Social media has made it worse. Take the visit, take an unofficial because it's close. It's not worth the drama caused by the perceived dis to the home state fanatics.

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Greg Oden or Deshaun Thomas? Or possibly Charles Macon from the early '90s?

I'm guessing Deshaun since Greg was one and done.
 

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I'm aware of the history of WV, V, and the term West by God Virginia. Not sure I understand what you are trying to say?

If you've ever travelled into the southern parts. Hatfield area, all the way north into the area talked about on this segment. You may feel and see some things not necessarily written in our ever changing History book. Racism is a ghost within our society anymore, but I can tell you It's a hate that exists within the blood that flows through those mountains, and only deepens the farther up the holler ya go.
 
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