‘25 AR RB Daniel Anderson (“Offer”)

[ThePiombino]

Ouch. Thats quite a charge.

Just regurgitating what was floated at the time. Likely nothing.

 

[gregm83]

just assumed Deland McCullough was leaving and didn't care about the recruits this cycle. Promising.

 

[ColinKSU]

I honestly think the staff didn’t want to waste their time trying to develop him. It was a bad assessment from the start. He was never going to be a contributor at nd. Somewhere along the way McCullough did think that was possible - I blame him for the whole fiasco

This RB class felt like a RB coach who didn’t expect to be here much longer wanting to call it a day early.

 

[ColinKSU]

Better go look up the definition of Deep South cuz if you get Freeman to stop recruiting GA, we’re comin for ya.

I think you know what states I mean when I say Deep South. It’s not the state they’ve had years of success in with schools and kids who are easier academic and cultural fits with Notre Dame like Texas, Georgia or Florida.

The next time Notre Dame successfully recruits, signs and develops a kid from Mississippi, Arkansas and Alabama will the first time since Justin Tuck went to the NFL. And he only went to ND because he was an anonymous recruit the SEC didn’t want.

 

[NDFAN2008]

Well Oregon and LSU and Ohio state both have two highly ranked RB recruits i'd start going after their guys

 

[WildMan1]

Lol we should be paying millions of dollars to athletes just like everyone else
Also paying millions of dollars to athletes is not going to work

I did say in a few seasons lol

It’s working right now but the market will adjust eventually..

But there’s no reason we shouldn’t be paying big bucks right now to level up that WR room.

 

[IAIrish]

I'm more in the Lemming category that rb offer evaluation shouldn't be that hard.

He's been saying it for 40 years and if you look at who has panned out vs who hasn't, it holds true most of the time.

A hs rb should average 10yd pc unless their oline is hot garbage. If they aren't close to that, move on.

 

[MacIrish75]

I'm more in the Lemming category that rb offer evaluation shouldn't be that hard.

He's been saying it for 40 years and if you look at who has planned out vs who hasn't, it holds true most of the time.

A hs rb should average 10yd pc unless their oline is hot garbage. If they aren't close to that, move on.

Audric Estime only averaged a meager 7.5 YPC his senior year. Glad we didn't consult you on that one...

 

[zelezo vlk]

I'm more in the Lemming category that rb offer evaluation shouldn't be that hard.

He's been saying it for 40 years and if you look at who has planned out vs who hasn't, it holds true most of the time.

A hs rb should average 10yd pc unless their oline is hot garbage. If they aren't close to that, move on.

Jeremiyah Love averaged 9.2 YPC as a senior

 

[IAIrish]

Audric Estime only averaged a meager 7.5 YPC his senior year. Glad we didn't consult you on that one...

Mark it 10, duder.

• Totaled 190 carries for 1,857 yards are 22 touchdowns, along with 14 receptions for 185 yards and two touchdowns in 2020

Audric Estimé

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[IAIrish]

Jeremiyah Love averaged 9.2 YPC as a senior

• Finished his junior season with 996 yards on 95 carries and scored 14 touchdowns

Jeremiyah Love

fightingirish.com

 

[zelezo vlk]

• Finished his junior season with 996 yards on 95 carries and scored 14 touchdowns

Jeremiyah Love

fightingirish.com

And then his senior year 1291 yards on 140 carries, so he regressed!

https://stats.stlhighschoolsports.com/sports/football/stats/index.php?s=860

 

[zelezo vlk]

Jadarian Price only hit 9.3 yards his senior year

Jadarian Price's High School Football Stats

Check out Jadarian Price's high school sports stats, including updates while playing football at Denison High School (TX).

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[IAIrish]

Jadarian Price only hit 9.3 yards his senior year

Jadarian Price's High School Football Stats

Check out Jadarian Price's high school sports stats, including updates while playing football at Denison High School (TX).

www.maxpreps.com

Did I say 10 on the dot or did I say close to it? Again, there are other variables to consider (oline, talent around them, injury history), but if they're going after a kid that averaged 5/6 yes a pop like Anderson did, there is a problem that doesn't take a genius rb coach to see.

To your Jadarian Price example, he was anointed as elite based on dmc's comments. The guy has had two big plays in his career from my perspective (usc kr td and the td run against a&m). He also has danced waaay too much this season and has been part of the problem this years offense has been wildly inconsistent. Those negative plays destroy drives as this current iteration isn't talented enough up front/ at qb to make up for it. And that fumble against Ville nearly cost the Irish the game.

 

[CanadalovesND]

I'll throw out two names. Demon June & Waltez Clark.

June was someone that McCullough was looking at, seeing in person, even after Anderson & Thurman were committed. His tape is fun to watch. He's a highly productive player, plays very violent. UNC commit, but that program is likely going to overhaul a bit with Mack Brown likely retiring.



Clark was someone that had a good relationship with McCullough. I believe DMC went down to his school a few times prior to his commitment to the Gators. 10.8m, so he's got some wheels and it shows a bit on film.

 

[Rocketman84]

This RB class felt like a RB coach who didn’t expect to be here much longer wanting to call it a day early.

As I said long long ago, the kid wasn't a ND player plain and simple! Hardly find guys going from LIU to D1 major college football, let alone Notre Dame. Notre Dame still has a couple guys in that boat committed im wondering if they will be processed out as well.

 

[Rocketman84]

And then his senior year 1291 yards on 140 carries, so he regressed!

https://stats.stlhighschoolsports.com/sports/football/stats/index.php?s=860

Jr. year he had 8 games with 8 or less carries (3 with 1 carry). As a Sr. he had 6 games with 8 or less carries (3 with 1 carry and 1 with 2 carries). Coaching as we know can be a player's biggest obstacle, like running an injury prone QB 14 times a game and more than your uber-talented RBs!

 

[ColinKSU]

As I said long long ago, the kid wasn't a ND player plain and simple! Hardly find guys going from LIU to D1 major college football, let alone Notre Dame. Notre Dame still has a couple guys in that boat committed im wondering if they will be processed out as well.

This class was cursed from the jump, but I’m not sure why. It’s like Bowden thought he was out the door to Michigan and went on autopilot.

They took *so* many unnecessary early commitments from middling players and they shouldn’t have bothered recruiting Deuce in the first place.

 

[SeekNDestroy]

As I said long long ago, the kid wasn't a ND player plain and simple! Hardly find guys going from LIU to D1 major college football, let alone Notre Dame. Notre Dame still has a couple guys in that boat committed im wondering if they will be processed out as well.

Who do you think might get processed? Just curious. Obviously, Bettis is not gonna get let go (even though he’s an inferior player.)

 

[ColinKSU]

Good thing they didn’t pass on Justin Tuck from Alabama

They didn’t have to fight a single SEC power for Justin Tuck. He had no other option *but* to go to Notre Dame, and it worked out for both parties.

 

[SeekNDestroy]

They didn’t have to fight a single SEC power for Justin Tuck. He had no other option *but* to go to Notre Dame, and it worked out for both parties.

Nah, he definitely had an Alabama offer. He picked ND over Bama because Bama was on probation.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

They didn’t have to fight a single SEC power for Justin Tuck. He had no other option *but* to go to Notre Dame, and it worked out for both parties.

I should’ve read on before posting b/c you did mention Tuck, so I deleted my post. It’s a fair point.

Plus, Bama was in turmoil then amid the transition from Dubose to Franchione so he may have gotten lost in the shuffle. Other than the punter who came to ND a few years back & then transferred to LSU, most kids in that state likely are looking at Bama/Auburn and then there’s’ some good G5 schools as well. It’s a football crazy state and I suspect most want to stay local. Riley Leonard didn’t get offered by ND out of HS so not exactly a hot commodity despite going on to having one good season at Duke.

Arkansas just doesn’t have a lot of P4 prospects on a yearly basis. So it’ll be rare they even offer a kid from there. I think Hunter Henry’s younger brother was the last one & he ended up staying home & never living up to his HS rating.

Holtz snagged a few good kids in MS but I think we learned w/ Deuce that CFB is so regionalized now that it’s gonna be rare that a kid that fits ND profile is interested in ND.

 

[ColinKSU]

Nah, he definitely had an Alabama offer. He picked ND over Bama because Bama was on probation.

Fair.

So I guess Notre Dame needs to bank on probation, firings or a similar scandal to have a chance at kids from that part of the country. Because I can’t see them straight up beating a kid from Alabama or Mississippi for anyone otherwise.

(And even then they accidentally recruited Justin because Davie went to the wrong school because he was actually in town to see a player they ended up losing to … Auburn.)

 

[irishandy]

From everything I've read and heard, ND is paying on the same level as those schools, if not more.

Money isn't the reason ND loses out on elite recruits. The reasons are location and/or ND is hard. With Deuce there was also one other issue - he was afraid of CJ Carr.

Deuce is afraid of the competition with Carr? If Deuce would've committed to ND I would've 100% redshirted him. What is Deuce going to do when Auburn goes after a QB for the 2026 class?

 

[IRISHDODGER]

Deuce is afraid of the competition with Carr? If Deuce would've committed to ND I would've 100% redshirted him. What is Deuce going to do when Auburn goes after a QB for the 2026 class?

Had he enrolled at ND, he likely would have had some kind of package designed for him regardless of who the starting QB was. That’s likely what happens at Auburn as well if he isn’t the outright starter.

 

[stlnd01]

Had he enrolled at ND, he likely would have had some kind of package designed for him regardless of who the starting QB was. That’s likely what happens at Auburn as well if he isn’t the outright starter.

If we haven’t done that this year with Carr why would we have done that next year with Knight?

 

[BeatSC]

So basically losing this two star guy is a net gain. Might get to play somewhere like NIU or Buffalo.

 

[Free Manera]

Carr doesn’t project as the kind of QB that comes off the field for any reason. A freshman Deuce wouldn’t be getting on the field. If Carr is what the insiders thinks he is, then Deuce would have to beat out an incumbent starter at some point and he apparently had concerns about it.

 

[Rocketman84]

This class was cursed from the jump, but I’m not sure why. It’s like Bowden thought he was out the door to Michigan and went on autopilot.

They took *so* many unnecessary early commitments from middling players and they shouldn’t have bothered recruiting Deuce in the first place.

I'm not even mad at recruiting Deuce (4.5* talent) but my question is why so many "projects" (borderline 3* guys) WITHOUT much upside

Deuce is afraid of the competition with Carr? If Deuce would've committed to ND I would've 100% redshirted him. What is Deuce going to do when Auburn goes after a QB for the 2026 class?

Deuce is only doing what this modern landscape allows him to do....use ND for leverage, then cash in on a dumpster fire program with cash to spend, in a year transfer out w/o penalty (having to sit out) then do it all over again.

 

[ColinKSU]

I'm not even mad at recruiting Deuce (4.5* talent) but my question is why so many "projects" (borderline 3* guys) WITHOUT much upside

Deuce is only doing what this modern landscape allows him to do....use ND for leverage, then cash in on a dumpster fire program with cash to spend, in a year transfer out w/o penalty (having to sit out) then do it all over again.

I haven’t understood the plan behind this year’s class at all.

I heard rumblings last cycle that this year wasn’t looking as good for ND. It seems like the staff agreed and just wanted to punt, grab a bunch of easy takes that would be backup plans in other year and get it over with by July.

Then you hear stuff like Brown not being in on many 26 receivers and I feel like that meme of the cat looking over a snow bank and wondering what they’re doing over there.