'23 MO RB Jeremiyah Love (Notre Dame Signee)

[Domina Nostra]

He already coached and failed against OSU, which he's about to

ummm, did you watch his team lose as HC when up 28-7, which would have been biggest bowl win in what 30 years (ish)

I would definitely be worried about game day coaching based on that bowl game, if it weren't for the Al Golden hire.

That was key and will allow Freeman time to grow into his role.

 

[Irish4life]

So you're saying we can afford to not land an elite QB this cycle? Based on what? Our only "elite" QB in the roster is yet to prove anything and then next "elite" QB won't even be on campus for two more seasons. Where is the room for error with '23 QB?

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[Irishokie]

ummm, did you watch his team lose as HC when up 28-7, which would have been biggest bowl win in what 30 years (ish)

Did he allow Elston a tryout for the DC job during the bowl game?

 

[Sea Turtle]

ummm, did you watch his team lose as HC when up 28-7, which would have been biggest bowl win in what 30 years (ish)

Ugh, don't get me started. They still laugh about spotting us a 21 point lead.

 

[ThePiombino]

Ugh, don't get me started. They still laugh about spotting us a 21 point lead.

Who? OSU? That's weird. I haven't thought about them since...

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[Irish#1]

ummm, did you watch his team lose as HC when up 28-7, which would have been biggest bowl win in what 30 years (ish)

He was juggling a 1,000 balls from the time it was announced until the bowl game. He didn't have time to settle in and get things established the way he wanted. Since your judging him by the OkS game, I assume you think he'll be fine if he opens with a win against OSU?

 

[INLaw]

He was juggling a 1,000 balls from the time it was announced until the bowl game. He didn't have time to settle in and get things established the way he wanted. Since your judging him by the OkS game, I assume you think he'll be fine if he opens with a win against OSU?

Unless that comes with a Fiesta Bowl trophy I am still gonna be pretty salty about it

 

[IHateMarkMay]

Unless that comes with a Fiesta Bowl trophy I am still gonna be pretty salty about it

Would you rather have a Fiesta Bowl trophy and Mike Elston as DC calling plays in '22 or Al Golden calling plays in '22 and no Fiesta Bowl trophy?

 

[INLaw]

Would you rather have a Fiesta Bowl trophy and Mike Elston as DC calling plays in '22 or Al Golden calling plays in '22 and no Fiesta Bowl trophy?

Good point. But for me and only me the trophy. Been way too long since we have checked that box.

 

[House16]

Would you rather have a Fiesta Bowl trophy and Mike Elston as DC calling plays in '22 or Al Golden calling plays in '22 and no Fiesta Bowl trophy?

Yeah honestly I'd take the Fiesta Bowl W 100% of the time. I was born on 1/14/1994. We won a NY6 game the week before I was born and never since lol. We gotta get one.

 

[INLaw]

Some pretty serious 🧐 comments om thid recruitment on II podcast today from Sampson who is usually not this blunt on recruits. Basically said its Dante Moore again where likes Notre Dame but daddy needs the bag 💰

 

[NDIrish88]

Some pretty serious 🧐 comments om thid recruitment on II podcast today from Sampson who is usually not this blunt on recruits. Basically said its Dante Moore again where likes Notre Dame but daddy needs the bag 💰

Gotta love money

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

That's interesting because Sampson has spent a lot of time arguing that the effect of NIL on Notre Dame (as well as the CFB landscape as a whole) is overblown.

 

[INLaw]

Gotta love money

I do. Also bitches. And bitches love money so kind of a chicken and egg deal

 

[Whiskeyjack]

That's interesting because Sampson has spent a lot of time arguing that the effect of NIL on Notre Dame (as well as the CFB landscape as a whole) is overblown.

That may be true in the aggregate. But for certain individual recruits, it's obviously not.

 

[INLaw]

I shared bc recruiting usually does not occupy much of Sampsons time and had not heard this elsewhere and it was stated pretty bluntly. As in kind of expect this not to happen

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

That may be true in the aggregate. But for certain individual recruits, it's obviously not.

Well the difference to ND between having or not having Moore is significant. And now Sampson is (assuming all this second hand is accurate) conceding that this isn't a one off.

 

[du Lac]

Some pretty serious 🧐 comments om thid recruitment on II podcast today from Sampson who is usually not this blunt on recruits. Basically said its Dante Moore again where likes Notre Dame but daddy needs the bag 💰

I really like the idea of landing Love, but some recruits should act their ranking. I see top 5 QBs chasing bags but not sure who’s throwing huge cash at a 4 star athlete.

 

[IrishLion]

I really like the idea of landing Love, but some recruits should act their ranking. I see top 5 QBs chasing bags but not sure who’s throwing huge cash at a 4 star athlete.

Jimbo, when he realizes he woke Nick Saban and the Bama boosters up to the NIL game, and can't fill his class to his liking as time goes on.

 

[INLaw]

Jimbo, when he realizes he woke Nick Saban and the Bama boosters up to the NIL game, and can't fill his class to his liking as time goes on.

This

 

[Dale]

I think we have to separate waiting to make a decision and what Dante did. By all accounts ND expects a decision from Love in August. We just entered August. Love has not done really next to anything of what the Moore recruitment was. He’s made exactly one more visit than expected. His Dad has also been Pro-ND throughout the process. Some parents just want their kid to consider the whole scope of things before pulling the trigger, ex CJ Carr’s father. Daddy wants the bag feels a little over the top unless I’ve missed something.

 

[BeauBenken]

I think some of the ND beat are getting a bit emotional. Overall there are still good vibes here…just need to close.

 

[INLaw]

I think we have to separate waiting to make a decision and what Dante did. By all accounts ND expects a decision from Love in August. We just entered August. Love has not done really next to anything of what the Moore recruitment was. He’s made exactly one more visit than expected. His Dad has also been Pro-ND throughout the process. Some parents just want their kid to consider the whole scope of things before pulling the trigger, ex CJ Carr’s father. Daddy wants the bag feels a little over the top unless I’ve missed something.

Just my paraphrasing of what Sampson said. Listen to the podcast yourself and make your own conclusion

 

[indianamouse]

Every thread I’ve looked at has been kinda negative lately. There’s a lot of optimism around the program right now with freeman, and y’all are acting like the sky is falling.

 

[irishff1014]

Some pretty serious 🧐 comments om thid recruitment on II podcast today from Sampson who is usually not this blunt on recruits. Basically said its Dante Moore again where likes Notre Dame but daddy needs the bag 💰

These parents need to wake up. Teach your kids quit being worthless role models Money isn't everything.

 

[Irish#1]

These parents need to wake up. Teach your kids quit being worthless role models Money isn't everything.

I suspect many of these parents aren't that well off and see these NIL's deals as a quick way to ease things significantly.

Son, we love you and understand you want to go to Notre Dame. But this money from AtM will help the family tremendously. You do love your family don't you son?

 

[IrishLax]

I suspect many of these parents aren't that well off and see these NIL's deals as a quick way to ease things significantly.

Son, we love you and understand you want to go to Notre Dame. But this money from AtM will help the family tremendously. You do love your family don't you son?

I don't each recruits financial situation, but this is absolutely true for a lot of prospects. For example, Kyren Williams was not coming to ND from a great financial situation, and something as "small" as $50k could've gone a huge way towards helping his family. If you can get that money up front, why not take it? I can't say what I would do in someone's shoes, but if my parents were like "you need to make a family decision here" I think I'd probably listen to them as a teenager.

The problem, to me, is that the bulk of schools are operating under one set of rules and the other has Spyre Sports, Division Street, LifeWallet, etc. The issue is NCAA guidance. Either need to make explicitly clear what is allowed and let the chips fall where they may OR need to provide clear guidance to the contrary... something like "no prospective student athlete is allowed to have any representation or sign any kind of NIL deal until enrolled at a member institution."

 

[CoachB]

I suspect many of these parents aren't that well off and see these NIL's deals as a quick way to ease things significantly.

Son, we love you and understand you want to go to Notre Dame. But this money from AtM will help the family tremendously. You do love your family don't you son?

Exactly!

 

[jprue24]

Either need to make explicitly clear what is allowed and let the chips fall where they may OR need to provide clear guidance to the contrary... something like "no prospective student athlete is allowed to have any representation or sign any kind of NIL deal until enrolled at a member institution."

I know I'm not necessarily providing new information here, but I believe the problem with this is if it runs contrary to a state's NIL laws. For example, I believe in California the law says a player can sign deals before college. NCAA would waste a lot of money losing in court again.

 

[stlnd01]

I don't each recruits financial situation, but this is absolutely true for a lot of prospects. For example, Kyren Williams was not coming to ND from a great financial situation, and something as "small" as $50k could've gone a huge way towards helping his family. If you can get that money up front, why not take it? I can't say what I would do in someone's shoes, but if my parents were like "you need to make a family decision here" I think I'd probably listen to them as a

Would also note that raising an elite football player - between camps and coaching and everything - is not an inexpensive proposition for a lot of these families. Depends on the kid but can easily be tens of thousands of dollars over the years.

Some, including Love, also attend private school, at least in part for the athletic opportunities. And even if you get some aid that’s not cheap (Tuition at CBC is nearly $18,000 a year).

So if someone wants to write you a nice check upfront to go play big-time college football and your parents can see some of that investment returned sooner, I can’t say I blame them for letting that influence their decision.

Like Lax said the biggest problem here is there’s no rules. Everyone’s just playing by their own.