'23 MO RB Jeremiyah Love (Notre Dame Signee)

[du Lac]

Odds Love, Novosad, and Bowen are all at the pool party.

 

[Dale]

Odds Love, Novosad, and Bowen are all at the pool party.

Likely

 

[Dale]

I get focusing on 2024s but ND in retrospect should have tried to get all commits + the like 3 remaining targets on campus for no other reason then these southern school events are tempting. Play keep away at minimum

 

[DONTH8]

Odds Love, Novosad, and Bowen are all at the pool party.

An ND plant. Love to see it. Get in their ears the whole time about ND.

 

[TheRealLynch51]

Trieu says hes leaning A&M

He technically said "I'm starting to think A&M is the team to beat here." Not a ton to be upset with such a wishy washy statement. I'd be more upset if we heard something like this more concrete after the pool party fun.

 

[INLaw]

ATM has a pathetic 2023 class Novosad would be silly to look at a class with zero RB and WR commits. Bowen is going to be in Love and Novosad ear the whole time. I am loving this arrangement

I will have what he’s having

 

[du Lac]

Bowen has been looking for a reason not to come to ND for months. All 3 are gone to me. Hanafin trending away as well. Sounds like our best chances are Ausberry and Minich to close the class. It’ll be a solid class. Not what everyone expected.

 

[317Irish]

Bowen has been looking for a reason not to come to ND for months. All 3 are gone to me. Hanafin trending away as well. Sounds like our best chances are Ausberry and Minich to close the class. It’ll be a solid class. Not what everyone expected.

Feels like a great time to remind you and others that it’s….. still July. 😁

 

[NDpendent]

Bowen has been looking for a reason not to come to ND for months. All 3 are gone to me. Hanafin trending away as well. Sounds like our best chances are Ausberry and Minich to close the class. It’ll be a solid class. Not what everyone expected.

I feel pretty confident Bowen ends up in this class. Moms will beat out girlfriends every time. I think he is solid to ND and alot of these visits are with his brother who is looking at these schools.

 

[Dale]

Love I still think has been an impossible recruitment to read so I find in interesting now some are coming out and saying oh yeah we’ve known A&M is confident. Just as when ND seemed confident I never viewed him as a lock. I could see him still choosing ND, though not visiting would have obviously been better than visiting A&M for us. We’ll see.

 

[IHateMarkMay]

Love I still think has been an impossible recruitment to read so I find in interesting now some are coming out and saying oh yeah we’ve known A&M is confident. Just as when ND seemed confident I never viewed him as a lock. I could see him still choosing ND, though not visiting would have obviously been better than visiting A&M for us. We’ll see.

So one of those dancing .gifs on IB wasn't for Love, unless Love commits, then it was, right?

 

[IHateMarkMay]

I would imagine it's written in the contract that it's dependent upon signing for the team and any money given prior to signing day must be returned if signing with another team.

There has to be a ton of legal clauses and mumbo jumbo in there.

 

[du Lac]

Feels like a great time to remind you and others that it’s….. still July. 😁

Totally get that. But we aren’t in it for many top 100-150 players not named Love, Novosad, Hanafin, besides JA. Won’t be easy to flip more than maybe 1 or 2 guys. We may have to fill out with low 4 stars and 3 stars. Might just have to take a never starter body to keep some depth at QB. That would still be a nice class and I think we can finish top 10. An elite coach that can really get the most out of development can win a lot of games with classes in the 6-10 range.

 

[notredomer23]

Totally get that. But we aren’t in it for many top 100-150 players not named Love, Novosad, Hanafin, besides JA. Won’t be easy to flip more than maybe 1 or 2 guys. We may have to fill out with low 4 stars and 3 stars. That would still be a nice class and I think we can finish top 10. An elite coach that can really get the most out of development can win a lot of games with classes in the 6-10 range.

Bold of you that a class that will be at 289 composite points with Ausberry can finish in the top 10. Subtract Bowen if you want, that would still put ND at 282 which would be good for 6th last year and top 5 some years, assuming no other additions which seems also is about a 0 percent chance.

 

[du Lac]

Bold of you that a class that will be at 289 composite points with Ausberry can finish in the top 10. Subtract Bowen if you want, that would still put ND at 282 which would be good for 6th last year and top 5 some years, assuming no other additions which seems also is about a 0 percent chance.

Top 5 would be terrific. But let’s remember, USC, Bama, Georgia, TAMU, Clemson, LSU, Ohio State, Oregon, Texas are all going to finish very very well.

 

[benneboy]

We may have to fill out with low 4 stars and 3 stars. That would still be a nice class and I think we can finish top 10.

You do realize that our current class would finish in the top 10 in every year on record right? Without any additions. Most in the 5-7 range.

We'll sign a qb, Ausberry would be a huge addition, and I would bet large sums of money that someone in the top 150 will be in this class that noone is expecting or talking about. That happened several years when we had a mediocre recruiter at head coach.

 

[du Lac]

You do realize that our current class would finish in the top 10 in every year on record right? Without any additions. Most in the 5-7 range.

We'll sign a qb, Ausberry would be a huge addition, and I would bet large sums of money that someone in the top 150 will be in this class that noone is expecting or talking about. That happened several years when we had a mediocre recruiter at head coach.

Yes. That’s why I predicted top 10.

 

[Reaper97]

Top 5 would be terrific.

The talent is really spread out this year because of NIL.

A lot of teams are getting guys that would have went to Bama, OSU, UGA, in the past.

Miami, Tennessee, even Louisville are pulling kids away from the elite programs.

ND should finish top 5 regardless unless things just fall apart.
OSU, Bama & UGA are the only teams I think have a legit chance to finish above ND. USC could get hot, but they can’t get OL/DL commits. Texas had their big run of commits post-Arch commit & probably have maxed out. A&M could buy their way in the top 5 again, but not so far. Clemson won’t sign a big enough class.

ND will probably finish 4th.
They add Ausberry & Minich, plus 2-3 other players who are unknown now. That will get them 295 or so, which will be top 5 for sure.

 

[du Lac]

4th is terrific. I was taking more like 6th. Minchey could move up the rankings. He’s doing well at camps. They need to get him on campus.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

You guys act like they're not going to drop all the players prior to signing day... Three star Keon will bring us down...

 

[Reaper97]

Really positive update from Ryan Roberts.
He talked to Love today, about A&M, ND & how he is feeling.
Ryan says after his talk today he is sticking by his opinion that ND is the clear leader, despite what other outlets are saying.

 

[notredomer23]

Really positive update from Ryan Roberts.
He talked to Love today, about A&M, ND & how he is feeling.
Ryan says after his talk today he is sticking by his opinion that ND is the clear leader, despite what other outlets are saying.

I appreciate the update but wasn't Roberts also the one that said Jason Moore was going to ND like 2 days before all the OSU CBs came in?

 

[Reaper97]

I appreciate the update but wasn't Roberts also the one that said Jason Moore was going to ND like 2 days before all the OSU CBs came in?

I don’t think he talked to J Moore that close to that happening.
I think everyone had picks for J Moore to ND.
Even the former OSU reporter, Kyle Kelly, who took over ND Rivals, but had covered J Moore while at OSU.
Everyone was surprised had quickly that changed.

 

[allenm5333]

I don’t think he talked to J Moore that close to that happening.
I think everyone had picks for J Moore to ND.
Even the former OSU reporter, Kyle Kelly, who took over ND Rivals, but had covered J Moore while at OSU.
Everyone was surprised had quickly that changed.

Something to consider to is Love is from Missouri. Seems like sources are better there (ex: Christian Grey). Roberts and Driskall have also been slightly critical of how ND handled the end of Moore's recruitment

 

[Reaper97]

Something to consider to is Love is from Missouri. Seems like sources are better there (ex: Christian Grey). Roberts and Driskall have also been slightly critical of how ND handled the end of Moore's recruitment

They have been a little critical of the Hanafin closing too.
But it’s funny how they tip toe around how they criticize the new staff compared to the old staff.
With the old staff, all they said is you have to close, no excuses, getting kids on campus doesn’t matter, you have to close.
Now it’s a lot of, “well, they got them on campus, gave it their best shot, nothing more they could have done, some kids just choose somewhere else…”
So full of excuses now.

A realistic hypothetical…

ND doesn’t get;
D Moore
J Moore
Hanafin
Love

And Keeley & P Bowen flip.

What will be said by IB? That class is worse than BK’s last class.
Think they will lay on the excuses?

 

[Irish4life]

They have been a little critical of the Hanafin closing too.
But it’s funny how they tip toe around how they criticize the new staff compared to the old staff.
With the old staff, all they said is you have to close, no excuses, getting kids on campus doesn’t matter, you have to close.
Now it’s a lot of, “well, they got them on campus, gave it their best shot, nothing more they could have done, some kids just choose somewhere else…”
So full of excuses now.

A realistic hypothetical…

ND doesn’t get;
D Moore
J Moore
Hanafin
Love

And Keeley & P Bowen flip.

What will be said by IB? That class is worse than BK’s last class.
Think they will lay on the excuses?

Yes, but I also do not believe that scenario will play out.

 

[du Lac]

They have been a little critical of the Hanafin closing too.
But it’s funny how they tip toe around how they criticize the new staff compared to the old staff.
With the old staff, all they said is you have to close, no excuses, getting kids on campus doesn’t matter, you have to close.
Now it’s a lot of, “well, they got them on campus, gave it their best shot, nothing more they could have done, some kids just choose somewhere else…”
So full of excuses now.

A realistic hypothetical…

ND doesn’t get;
D Moore
J Moore
Hanafin
Love

And Keeley & P Bowen flip.

What will be said by IB? That class is worse than BK’s last class.
Think they will lay on the excuses?

I've been thinking this for some time. The BK bashing that happens on a daily basis on IB, yet BK has finished as high as 3rd in recruiting and was 6-7 last year. If MF's first class doesn't even beat BK's last class, what does that say? MF's biggest advantage was recruiting. He's NOT going to out coach the experienced greats in the game. He needs to excel at what he's best at and that's recruiting. While I certainly think MF had a big impact on last years recruiting, BK hired him. HC's hire good recruiters all the time. I hate when people try and call that MF's class. It was BK's class, period.

This class essentially hinges (Bowen and Keeley) on the verge of being a step up or a complete disappointment. The two best recruits in the class are veering off course, you miss Dante Moore, Hanafin, Love, J Moore. Highly doubt you get Novosad. No good QB recruit for the cycle. I don't mean to sound the alarm, but this class is about as close as it's ever been to ending up a complete disaster. It's very very possible we are just looking at status quo, despite MF's hussle to prove the naysayers wrong.

 

[FWIrish4]

I've been thinking this for some time. The BK bashing that happens on a daily basis on IB, yet BK has finished as high as 3rd in recruiting and was 6-7 last year. If MF's first class doesn't even beat BK's last class, what does that say? While I certainly think MF had a big impact on last years recruiting, BK hired him. HC's hire good recruiters all the time.

This class essentially hinges (Bowen and Keeley) on the verge of being a step up or a complete disappointment. The two best recruits in the class are veering off course, you miss Dante Moore, Hanafin, Love, J Moore. Highly doubt you get Novosad. No good QB recruit for the cycle. It's very very possible we are just looking at status quo, despite MF's hussle to prove the naysayers wrong.

There is no way you would call this class a disappointment without Keeley and Bowen. The blue chip ratio is still 88.89% with removing Keeley and Bowen.

The only way you call this class a disappointment is because of recency bias with the amount of recruiting success the current coaching staff has yielded.

 

[du Lac]

There is no way you would call this class a disappointment without Keeley and Bowen. The blue chip ratio is still 88.89% with removing Keeley and Bowen.

The only way you call this class a disappointment is because of recency bias with the amount of recruiting success the current coaching staff has yielded.

If that happens, it's a major disappointment. All we have heard for 6 months is that this will be a top 5 program changing class. MF was hired in large part bc of his ability to connect with young people and recruit. If we were going to recruit status quo, why not just hire Luke Fickell? Fickell still could have hired Al Washington, Chad Bowden, etc. He would've brought Cincy's best recruiters along too. Even if you add Ausberry, Minich, and a handful of other 3 stars we are about at the same 275 score as last cycle.

Don't get me wrong, I like MF, but if we can't hold onto the two best recruits after not being able to close on some hard leans, that's a big disappointment, particularly after having the lead and momentum for so long and hearing nothing but 100% confidence that this is going to be a top 5 class for 6 months by the talking heads.

 

[irishff1014]

There is no way you would call this class a disappointment without Keeley and Bowen. The blue chip ratio is still 88.89% with removing Keeley and Bowen.

The only way you call this class a disappointment is because of recency bias with the amount of recruiting success the current coaching staff has yielded.

In know everyone's opinions are different but you are dead wrong on this one. I think Freeman should be given the benefit of the doubt but this might not be a sure of an item as some would make you believe. Keep your eyes open.