2024 College Football Playoffs

[NDPhilly]

Oregon is going to be back, Phil Knight's $$$ has ensured that they're recruiting / getting transfers at an elite level.

 

[bumpdaddy]

After I saw the play and heard the rules analyst say, "I'd expect them to call this targeting", I was convinced. Not sure why they didn't call it except the defender didn't launch crown of the helmet into the receiver but I thought a defenseless player with impact to the head/neck area was an auto-target.

They've changed the rules so much, I could be incorrect.

No, you are correct. The specific rule for a defenseless player is a hit to the head or neck area with a helmet, forearm, hand, fist, elbow or shoulder with at least one indicator of targeting. There are several indicators but this one definitely applies to the play in question:

• Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area

What's more, the rule states, "when in question, it is a foul," which means if the refs look at the replay and it looks like there is at least one indicator of targeting but they aren't sure they must call targeting. In order for it to not be targeting it must be clear there are no indicators of targeting. The refs definitely blew it on this call.

Here's an article that goes over this controversy.

 

[SeekNDestroy]

No, you are correct. The specific rule for a defenseless player is a hit to the head or neck area with a helmet, forearm, hand, fist, elbow or shoulder with at least one indicator of targeting. There are several indicators but this one definitely applies to the play in question:

• Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area

What's more, the rule states, "when in question, it is a foul," which means if the refs look at the replay and it looks like there is at least one indicator of targeting but they aren't sure they must call targeting. In order for it to not be targeting it must be clear there are no indicators of targeting. The refs definitely blew it on this call.

Here's an article that goes over this controversy.

The failure to call an obvious targeting totally changed the outcome of the game. We would be absolutely furious if it happened to Notre Dame.

 

[Giddyup]

They were supposed to call that ASU lineman for pulling the rb into the end zone. You can push but not pull. I think that’s the rule still. Good game overall. ASU had their chances.

 

[Irish du Nord]

I’m sorry to any ASU sympathizers but this is the softest response imaginable

EDIT: Whoops, this was a parody

 

[calvegas04]

Oregon is going to be back, Phil Knight's $$$ has ensured that they're recruiting / getting transfers at an elite level.

They will be in the Big 10 championship game almost on a yearly basis

 

[NDohio]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Go get it done !!!!! <a href="x.com">x.com</a></p>&mdash; Coach Dillingham (@KennyDillingham) <a href="">January 1, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Blazers46]

I’m loving that the media seems to think OSU has already won the Super Bowl. If anyone can screw this up, Ryan Day can.

 

[Dale]

I still think Lanning leaves sooner than people now think. It’s not sustainable to build a D from the portal and he knows it. You can pay HS kids but some just won’t want to go to Oregon in the end. Unless Phil Knight moves Oregon to not the Pacific Northwest, they will have flaws.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I still think Lanning leaves sooner than people now think. It’s not sustainable to build a D from the portal and he knows it. You can pay HS kids but some just won’t want to go to Oregon in the end. Unless Phil Knight moves Oregon to not the Pacific Northwest, they will have flaws.

I know it is very, very early but we all know that they are very, very irrational in Tuscaloosa. That being said, if DeBoer churns out a couple more 9-4 seasons, they'll pony up and try to get Lanning again, we would assume.

Oregon has Lanning in the $8M a year range. Drinkwitz is making more than him at Mizzou. The money could definitely factor, but you have to assume Oregon is providing him with plenty of perks via Uncle Phil.

The SEC is still going to recruit the best high school talent, but I think you are correct when you look at the current landscape. It's going to be easier to build an offense quickly via the Portal vs a defense. The Pacific Northwest location still is what it is, even will all of the Shoe Dog money pouring into the program.

 

[calvegas04]

 

[dublinirish]

 

[Terry Jillery]

I love Christian Gray and think he’s going to come into his own next year or two and be really good but I imagine Ohio State having their way with him.

 

[Katzenboyer]

I still think Lanning leaves sooner than people now think. It’s not sustainable to build a D from the portal and he knows it. You can pay HS kids but some just won’t want to go to Oregon in the end. Unless Phil Knight moves Oregon to not the Pacific Northwest, they will have flaws.

I think what Oregon is building is sustainable. They're recruiting at a high level, and Chip Kelly and Mario Cristobal showed you can win/recruit at the school and win a ton of games doing it.

The key is retaining Lanning. I'm not sure if he would move on to another college job, but I definitely think the NFL will come calling at some point.

 

[Katzenboyer]

I love Christian Gray and think he’s going to come into his own next year or two and be really good but I imagine Ohio State having their way with him.

They'll probably get theirs. But the key to beating OSU is punching them in the mouth and holding the ball for 40+ minutes.

I don't think the Irish will be favored if they end in the national championship against the Buckeyes, but ND is absolutely equipped to beat them if they do.

 

[OhioIrish]

They'll probably get theirs. But the key to beating OSU is punching them in the mouth and holding the ball for 40+ minutes.

I don't think the Irish will be favored if they end in the national championship against the Buckeyes, but ND is absolutely equipped to beat them if they do.

I think OSU would deservedly be favored by a touchdown against ND, but this OSU team is like every OSU team under Ryan Day — Dow Joneser. Who knows what they will look like in three weeks.

 

[NDWarrior]

Nonetheless, many are calling for changes to this aspect of the new CFP format: Calls Mount To Change CFP Format After Georgia's Loss to Notre Dame
"Can we just get to the 16 team playoff with no bye weeks now?" begged another post."

 

[IHateMarkMay]

I've also read that any changes have to be unanimously voted for, so that would require ND, ACC, B12, and whoever else non SEC/B1G to vote against giving four byes.

 

[calvegas04]

Hope Texas takes it to Ohio, rough them up if necessary

 

[Blazers46]

I've also read that any changes have to be unanimously voted for, so that would require ND, ACC, B12, and whoever else non SEC/B1G to vote against giving four byes.

This bodes well for Notre Dame. Notre Dame may not get a top 4 slot and sure one less game wouldn’t hurt but I’d rather be 5 than 4 at this point. My only worry two more games basically puts them at almost an NFL schedule. Hope they don’t weather down in game 3 and 4.

 

[NDWarrior]

I know someone mentioned this somewhere on IE yesterday, but man, I forgot the fact that although ND has made $14 million in CFP victory $, ND gets to keep all of it of course as an Independent (vs. conferences splitting it). More $, more $, more $! Notre Dame's $14 Million Playoff Haul Has Everyone Saying the Same Thing

 

[IrishWayDomer]

I know someone mentioned this somewhere on IE yesterday, but man, I forgot the fact that although ND has made $14 million in CFP victory $, ND gets to keep all of it of course as an Independent (vs. conferences splitting it). More $, more $, more $! Notre Dame's $14 Million Playoff Haul Has Everyone Saying the Same Thing

Someone broke this down on ISD, but with the revenue difference between NBC and Big 10, ND would have to win the title each year to break even. Big 10 has collected $28M so far for playoffs, and splitting it goes both ways. Even if you miss the playoffs you're getting millions. It's a bit more make or break for ND.

 

[InKellyWeTrust]

Someone broke this down on ISD, but with the revenue difference between NBC and Big 10, ND would have to win the title each year to break even. Big 10 has collected $28M so far for playoffs, and splitting it goes both ways. Even if you miss the playoffs you're getting millions. It's a bit more make or break for ND.

If ND wins a title I guarantee none of that will matter. Their value instantly increases with a title and negotiating another contract with NBC or whoever will see those returns.

 

[IrishWayDomer]

If ND wins a title I guarantee none of that will matter. Their value instantly increases with a title and negotiating another contract with NBC or whoever will see those returns.

They should give the money to NBC and say do a real product. ESPN's coverage and broadcasting of the 1st round made NBC's look like study hall.

 

[Irish5Saint]

Someone broke this down on ISD, but with the revenue difference between NBC and Big 10, ND would have to win the title each year to break even. Big 10 has collected $28M so far for playoffs, and splitting it goes both ways. Even if you miss the playoffs you're getting millions. It's a bit more make or break for ND.

Does that account for the $17 million they get from the ACC for a partial payout?

 

[NDWarrior]

I don't know if this is a good thing or not? ESPN's Computer Model Has Changed Its National Title Pick

 

[calvegas04]

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

https://athlonsports.com/college-football/weather-concerns-prompt-cotton-bowl-update-before-of-ohio-state-texas-game

Who needs on campus cold weather....

 

[IRISHDODGER]

 

[SWirishfan]

Why so surprised Fox?
Did you not know that ND is a private school and the others are large public State Unis?