2024 College Football Playoffs

[Irish#1]

I see your point, but Beck was the starter for a reason. If the backup was seasoned, I’d be more concerned. Assuming we beat IU, I’d much rather have a green QB try to deal with Golden’s pressure schemes. Also, UGA has to prepare for two teams, ND actually knows there next two opponents and could start game planning UGA now (if they were so inclined). If ND can’t beat Georgia with their backup QB then we don’t need to be disappointed because a natty was never gonna happen.

Yep, if he was better than Beck he'd be playing.

 

[PNW Irishman]

Beck makes a lot of mistakes but he is streaky and at times can be one of the best QBs in the country. There is a reason he has been near the top of NFL draft boards a lot of the year. His upside is much higher than Stockton's. It's honestly not even close. But that is for future worries. All the focus needs to be on IU, Cignetti, and Rourke for the next 10-11 days. Stomp them for the state title (we both put up 66 against the other in-state school) and then move on to Georgia and whoever is qbing them.

 

[dublinirish]

lol

 

[Irishnuke]

FFS Georgia is not better without Beck

 

[Kingbish01]

I think UGA is better without Beck. Don't love that there is limited film on him. And Kirby has three weeks to prep for ND, while ND would only have one week to prep for UGA.

As much as I want to agree with this, mainly because I've found myself rooting for UGA and I always said Beck stinks. He's 24-3 as a starter and has thrown over 300 yards (Something RL hasn't done once in 2 years) like 50% of those games. In short, there isn't a chance that UGA is better off losing him.....especially heading into the playoffs.

 

[jprue24]

I wouldn’t rely on it all till the final games are played. SOS is meaningless till all games are played. If you are using it before it is not a valid data point. Because it’s based on arbitrary initial conditions.

Not sure if. I’m not being clear here. When GT and FSU played GT got credit for beating #10 FSU. By end of season they got hurt by FSU sucking. The changing SOS throughout the year is exactly what I’m saying. It’s worthless till all the games are played.

It’s similar for the SEC because they always have 8-9 ranked teams and they all mostly play each other. They all get credit for winning against ranked teams and they all get credit for losing to ranked teams. I mean look at ND, if you were to ask I’d bet most people would say outlet biggest win was against TAM on the road who ended up being ok not great. 😂

Injuries are also a huge impact to SoS. Again look at FSU last year. Left out because of a an injury. Teams play games without the same lineups through out the year. Some teams overcome it with depth most cannot. How do you include injuries in SOS schedule to account for a senior QB injury leading to an inexperienced qb deputy? if the committee can use it as a criteria to leave an undefeated team out of the playoffs how does SOS normalize that?

Until we have a NFL style divisional winner playoff based on W and L, the subjectiveness of selecting the best teams is a dog and pony show.

Thought I addressed that.

You can disagree with whether this is actually happening or not, but what you are saying is the whole point of cfp rankings not coming out until November. SOS models that use the AP/Coaches aren't going to be far off for very long because those polls get in sync with the cfp rankings. Maybe a couple spots different but nothing drastic. It's also my understanding that the committee can and will take injuries into consideration when ranking teams. That should affect the SOS.

What's the problem w/using the avg. top 25 team as a reference at the end of the season? There have been 12/13 games to straighten out the preseason rankings (I hate them) and that usually happens.

I had thought SOS is always a snapshot of that moment in the season and can change drastically throughout the season. From what's in my head, Georgia was 4th in espn's SOS before the ccg. Now they are 1st. To me...that means they had the toughest schedule this season.

Right now, after all the games have been played, the SEC is a deep pool of excellent college football teams that played tougher schedules than the vast majority of teams.

ND hat hanging win this season is against the 6th place team in the SEC. I think it's a good win to hang your hat on. Still a 6th place team, though.

 

[dublinirish]

did also see a funny tweet but cant find it now when he got injured "bah gawwd thats his snapchat arm!"

 

[IrishLax]

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Thought I addressed that.

You can disagree with whether this is actually happening or not, but what you are saying is the whole point of cfp rankings not coming out until November. SOS models that use the AP/Coaches aren't going to be far off for very long because those polls get in sync with the cfp rankings. Maybe a couple spots different but nothing drastic. It's also my understanding that the committee can and will take injuries into consideration when ranking teams. That should affect the SOS.

What's the problem w/using the avg. top 25 team as a reference at the end of the season? There have been 12/13 games to straighten out the preseason rankings (I hate them) and that usually happens.

I had thought SOS is always a snapshot of that moment in the season and can change drastically throughout the season. From what's in my head, Georgia was 4th in espn's SOS before the ccg. Now they are 1st. To me...that means they had the toughest schedule this season.

Right now, after all the games have been played, the SEC is a deep pool of excellent college football teams that played tougher schedules than the vast majority of teams.

ND hat hanging win this season is against the 6th place team in the SEC. I think it's a good win to hang your hat on. Still a 6th place team, though.

No. I’m saying the whole system is fundamentally flawed lol. 😂. It’s a subjective and terrible way to determine who the “best” is. I know it’s the system we have but IMO it sucks ay the fundamental level.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

FFS Georgia is not better without Beck

If there is anyone who can rattle a backup with little game time experience I think Golden will be able to.

 

[GrangerIrish24]

I was in bed all day yesterday with whatever virus my demon seeds gave me. What did I miss?

 

[RDU Irish]

My concern with UGA is their defensive front seven being a nightmare matchup for our offense which leads to our FG unit costing us victory in a 5-6 puntfest. Beck at least held the promise of pick-sixes.

I worry about scoring on UGA and I worry about not keeping up with scoring against Oregon. Other than that, I really like our odds against the rest of the field as long as it doesn't turn into a circus.

 

[Irish#1]

 

[ab2cmiller]

WTF is wrong with people. The Buffs in over Texas A & M???? Do people even watch football? I mean the Aggies play in the SEC. Aggies should really reconsider softening their out of conference schedule next year.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

That would be fantastic

 

[GATTACA!]

I got Ole Miss over USC jr.

 

[RDU Irish]

That would be fantastic

Only way it works is to put bounties on each win to pay the players. $1M first round, $2M second round, $4M semis and $10M to the champ - that would be $200k to 85 players for the winner.

CFP do the same thing and triple it honestly.

 

[Irish#1]

lol

 

[Fbolt]

And then they Won. Freaking hard to think that. Still waiting for the NCAA to slap their Pee-pees.

 

[Irish#1]

Apologies to our Bama boys, but this is funny.

 

[Irish du Nord]

WTF is wrong with people. The Buffs in over Texas A & M???? Do people even watch football? I mean the Aggies play in the SEC. Aggies should really reconsider softening their out of conference schedule next year.

No italics on this one lol

 

[NorthDakota]

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My concern with UGA is their defensive front seven being a nightmare matchup for our offense which leads to our FG unit costing us victory in a 5-6 puntfest. Beck at least held the promise of pick-sixes.

I worry about scoring on UGA and I worry about not keeping up with scoring against Oregon. Other than that, I really like our odds against the rest of the field as long as it doesn't turn into a circus.

I do not worry about anyone in the field. Every single team is pretty flawed.

 

[JamIrish]

College Football National Championship Public Betting: Tickets & Handle

Updated college football national championships odds and public betting info.

sports.betmgm.com

Here's the betting handle percentages for the national championship winner according to Bet MGM. Of the twelve teams the order of most liability to least liable.

Tennessee
Boise St.
Ohio St
Indiana
Notre Dame
Georgia
Arizona St
Texas
Clemson
Oregon
SMU
Penn St.

If you look beyond that, at week 14, Miami and Alabama held huge liabilities and Miami loses to Syracuse and Bama gets left out of the playoff...eliminating both from contention. 4 of the top 5 remaining teams that would cause the largest payout from the books just so happen to play each other in the 1st round? Penn State holds the smallest liability to win the title and just so happens to get the easiest path to the semi's? Now this may all be coincidence...but it's definitely something I will monitor through the playoff. With Colorado, Miami, and Bama out, and more money to be wagered in the coming weeks, I'll update as I find more info.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Whatever the metric, it’s better than the RPI for basketball. What a mess that was.

“Dayton comes in at #1. They are 7-4, with most notably a 40 point loss to Kentucky.

Kentucky is #6. They are 11-0.

How is that possible?

Well if you look at Dayton’s opponent’s/opponent’s/opponent’s/opponent’s record, creating a critical 4 levels of separation, you will see Dayton is clearly #1.”


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[Irish#1]

Not that it matters, but the majority of ESPN picks the Irish to do quite well.

College Football Playoff bracket predictions and bowl picks

Our college football writers predict the outcomes of each CFP matchup and choose their champion.

www.espn.com

 

[Giddyup]

 

[TNUtoNotreDame]

Not that it matters, but the majority of ESPN picks the Irish to do quite well.

College Football Playoff bracket predictions and bowl picks

Our college football writers predict the outcomes of each CFP matchup and choose their champion.

www.espn.com

That scares me actually.

 

[ab2cmiller]

 

[jprue24]

No. I’m saying the whole system is fundamentally flawed lol. 😂. It’s a subjective and terrible way to determine who the “best” is. I know it’s the system we have but IMO it sucks ay the fundamental level.

Right, and I continue to ask you how it should be done.

 

[Irish#1]