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NDohio said:
I get all that. It's just the ND pessimism kicks in and we go from:

Peyton Bowen is getting $2,000,000.00 from Oregon!!

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ND doesn't play the NIL game.

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He did not get $2 million.

Go read the A&M DL who left explain how it works. It was reported he was getting $1 million, but he explained that it was up to that if he played all four years, & that was before he payed taxes, paid his rep & that also included the salary for his parents’ job.

He actually got less than 100k since he left after one year when it was all said and done.
 
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Reaper97 said:
He did not get $2 million.

Go read the A&M DL who left explain how it works. It was reported he was getting $1 million, but he explained that it was up to that if he played all four years, & that was before he payed taxes, paid his rep & that also included the salary for his parents’ job.

He actually got less than 100k since he left after one year when it was all said and done.
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I know that. That is my point. ND pessimism kicks in and that becomes the narrative even though it is false.
 
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NDohio said:
One of the pods - I don't remember which one - was talking about how Michael Mayer has made a lot of money through NIL this year but just doesn't talk about it.

Lenzy and Tyree are on the Under Armor website.

On3 does a NIL valuation. I have no idea how accurate it is, but it shows both MM and Foskey at over $800K. They have Alt at over $500K - for an O-Lineman?? Imagine what a stud QB at ND could do?
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It values Hartman at just under $800K, at Wake Forest. At Notre Dame? He'd double that, at least. And then he stands to boost his draft stock playing behind a legit O Line in an NFL system. Hartman makes the right move here and he can make a lot of money between now and Draft Day in April 2024. Not to mention playing for a CFP contender, which is pretty fun.

That's the pitch. Go close this thing out, MFMF and Tommy.
 
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I’m not sure I understand, is ND not paying players? The tone here is everyone is getting six plus figures except at ND. Our players are getting paid, fairly well, yes?
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The players on the roster who are the most important / most impactful are getting compensated pretty well IMO. Which is one of the main reasons that when Bama tried to offer one of our players a million dollars to transfer they don’t jump at it.

Honestly, I think all ND really needs to do at this point is get better with NIL in the transfer portal and they’re in a pretty good spot. I think you could also talk about finding funding for a couple “top” guys in each recruiting class but that’s a VERY slippery slope to be on.
 
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IrishLax said:
The players on the roster who are the most important / most impactful are getting compensated pretty well IMO. Which is one of the main reasons that when Bama tried to offer one of our players a million dollars to transfer they don’t jump at it.

Honestly, I think all ND really needs to do at this point is get better with NIL in the transfer portal and they’re in a pretty good spot. I think you could also talk about finding funding for a couple “top” guys in each recruiting class but that’s a VERY slippery slope to be on.
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I hate to say it but the Michigan model right now should also be the ND model: 1. Recruit the best high schoolers you can that are fits, and 2. get super competitive in the portal. The portal could be the equalizer if ND chose to let it be.
 
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IrishLax said:
The players on the roster who are the most important / most impactful are getting compensated pretty well IMO. Which is one of the main reasons that when Bama tried to offer one of our players a million dollars to transfer they don’t jump at it.

Honestly, I think all ND really needs to do at this point is get better with NIL in the transfer portal and they’re in a pretty good spot. I think you could also talk about finding funding for a couple “top” guys in each recruiting class but that’s a VERY slippery slope to be on.
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Who did Bama try and get?
 
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stlnd01 said:
According to this, he has sponsorship deals with Wahl (that fabulous beard doesn't groom itself, Phil), Bojangles and Mizzen + Main (a "performance menswear" brand, if you're not familiar).

www.on3.com

NIL Deals of the Week: Sam Hartman signs with Mizzen+Main, Penn State players land Teslas

Athletes from across the country have benefitted from NIL, and now they're using their profits to give back.
www.on3.com www.on3.com

Those aren't rich Wake Forest alums, those are legit companies who'd just as gladly pay a Notre Dame QB as a Wake Forest QB. Stands to reason they'd pay more, since more people would know the Notre Dame QB. Is the hope, anyway.
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I don’t think that there is a Bojangles anywhere close to South Bend. He might lose that NIL $$$
 
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IrishLax said:
The players on the roster who are the most important / most impactful are getting compensated pretty well IMO. Which is one of the main reasons that when Bama tried to offer one of our players a million dollars to transfer they don’t jump at it.

Honestly, I think all ND really needs to do at this point is get better with NIL in the transfer portal and they’re in a pretty good spot. I think you could also talk about finding funding for a couple “top” guys in each recruiting class but that’s a VERY slippery slope to be on.
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Find NIL money for QB recruits, OT recruits, and the top 2 WR recruits + the portal IMO.
 
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Free Manera said:
I hate to say it but the Michigan model right now should also be the ND model: 1. Recruit the best high schoolers you can that are fits, and 2. get super competitive in the portal. The portal could be the equalizer if ND chose to let it be.
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We will see on Michigan. They are benefitting greatly this year from the COVID rule and a very veteran team. For instance, under normal circumstances, Jake Moody would have graduated. He's made the most field goals in the country and they lose to Illinois without him. Also, despite all the OL transfers, they're going to lose 3, but probably 4 starters on the OL as well as Corum, Mazi Smith, Mike Morris, DJ Turner, etc. If they don't get it done this year, they're never going to get it done.
 
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Irish2155 said:
I don’t think that there is a Bojangles anywhere close to South Bend. He might lose that NIL $$$
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Yeah they are strictly regional (bummer, I might have to move to Carolina) but there are other fast food gigs that are national in scope and what could be more national than ND football. There's a lot of opportunities there to market "ND's Heisman Hopeful QB!".
Wahl is a national brand, they sell them at CVS and Walgreen's. Going from Wake to ND should get Hartman a nice big raise there. How about a deal with some of the other brands at those stores? Wraps, creams, protein supplements, etc. Or the CVS brand itself. That would be huge.
Opportunities abound. And we should have marketing people at the ready since we have a "top rated" business school.
 
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We will see on Michigan. They are benefitting greatly this year from the COVID rule and a very veteran team. For instance, under normal circumstances, Jake Moody would have graduated. He's made the most field goals in the country and they lose to Illinois without him. Also, despite all the OL transfers, they're going to lose 3, but probably 4 starters on the OL as well as Corum, Mazi Smith, Mike Morris, DJ Turner, etc. If they don't get it done this year, they're never going to get it done.
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I'm not really talking about this year's edition. They are #1 in transfer portal rankings for next year that's what I was referring to.
 
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Hartman is in a unique situation where his best "NIL deal" is to go somewhere with a good offensive line so he could put up video game numbers next year and get drafted. Wake's O line was pathetic and he still looked really good this year despite having guards pushed into his face every down.
 
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I posted this last week, might be interesting to some who missed it.


Where to put your NIL dollars and why.



 
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Hartman is a RKG. He values education more than NIL and partying. He was raised by good parents.
 
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NDohio said:
I went snooping onto a Wake Forest board and supposedly we are offering Sam $3 Million.

Oh, and they hate ND...LOL
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I love how they know we are offering him $3mil but we don't. I would love nothing more for someone to come out and be like "yep, I paid him $3mil to go to ND." I would jump for joy if it turned out we had people in the shadows throwing fat stacks around.
 
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