2023 Transfer QB

[GATTACA!]

Agreed. The ideal ND prototype is 5'11.5", so so arm, mediocre field vision, and can run a little bit.

But he has moxy

 

[Domina Nostra]

Agreed. The ideal ND prototype is 5'11.5", so so arm, mediocre field vision, and can run a little bit.

And can take a good bit of verbal abuse!

 

[SoIll]

Quick note

Quick note

247sports.com

"Some have a ND offer, some don’t. I’m also expecting an offer or two to go out after this week of evaluations."

Regarding who the staff is seeing/has seen this week

 

[Dale]

ND saw QBs that could or could not have an offer and I do or do not know the names.

 

[NDMatt91]

Quick note

Quick note

247sports.com

"Some have a ND offer, some don’t. I’m also expecting an offer or two to go out after this week of evaluations."

Regarding who the staff is seeing/has seen this week

I assume this is regarding class of 2023 QB's?

 

[notredomer23]

The staff is seeing Jackson Arnold tonight.

This is a deceptive post

 

[Irish#1]

Quick note

Quick note

247sports.com

"Some have a ND offer, some don’t. I’m also expecting an offer or two to go out after this week of evaluations."

Regarding who the staff is seeing/has seen this week

Probably Minchy and Johnson.

 

[SoIll]

Cal Swanson, Illinois Fighting Illini, Quarterback

Also plays basketball and runs track. Ran a 23.01 200 and qualified for the Oklahoma 5A-6A state meet in the 400 as a junior. Finished fifth at state with a...

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Cal as well. Watch his film. Can't watch it and not wonder why hes so low rated and lack of offers.

 

[Luckylucci]

Cal Swanson, Illinois Fighting Illini, Quarterback

Also plays basketball and runs track. Ran a 23.01 200 and qualified for the Oklahoma 5A-6A state meet in the 400 as a junior. Finished fifth at state with a...

247sports.com

Cal as well. Watch his film. Can't watch it and not wonder why hes so low rated and lack of offers.

 

[Luckylucci]

He's a very good athlete at the position. I'm not in love with some of the arm angle stuff in his highlights but he can certainly rip it. To Loy's credit, he was on him over the summer.

 

[stpeteirish]

Cal Swanson, Illinois Fighting Illini, Quarterback

Also plays basketball and runs track. Ran a 23.01 200 and qualified for the Oklahoma 5A-6A state meet in the 400 as a junior. Finished fifth at state with a...

247sports.com

Cal as well. Watch his film. Can't watch it and not wonder why hes so low rated and lack of offers.

maybe we can steal him away from Tarleton St

 

[irishff1014]

Cal Swanson, Illinois Fighting Illini, Quarterback

Also plays basketball and runs track. Ran a 23.01 200 and qualified for the Oklahoma 5A-6A state meet in the 400 as a junior. Finished fifth at state with a...

247sports.com

Cal as well. Watch his film. Can't watch it and not wonder why hes so low rated and lack of offers.

He looks like he is throwing a shot put instead of a football.

 

[NDMatt91]

I think it's safe to say that next year's starting QB isn't on the current roster. Hopefully some more quality QB's hit the portal so our new OC, whoever that may be, can work wonders with him next season.

 

[calvegas04]

I think it's safe to say that next year's starting QB isn't on the current roster. Hopefully some more quality QB's hit the portal so our new OC, whoever that may be, can work wonders with him next season.

If we get a new OC it would have to be right away after the season if they wanted to get a transfer QB with the new transfer rules

 

[stpeteirish]

Don’t need to wait until signing day as there are no recruits of his to decommit

 

[dublinirish]

 

[rtrn2glory]

If we have any hope of being competitive next year, we need to hit the open market very hard with the selling point that you are our guy to start and we want you to win the job. Then if Buchner miraculously beats out a seasoned QB who can actual throw the ball just live with the results there, but I don't think he does if we bring in an actual QB transfer that can accurately throw the ball downfield.

 

[NDMatt91]

If we have any hope of being competitive next year, we need to hit the open market very hard with the selling point that you are our guy to start and we want you to win the job. Then if Buchner miraculously beats out a seasoned QB who can actual throw the ball just live with the results there, but I don't think he does if we bring in an actual QB transfer that can accurately throw the ball downfield.

Exactly. And people need to not be so picky if our QB next year is Cade McNamara. If people think Pyne or Buchner could be the QB on a CFP team then I have some ocean front property in Nebraska to sell them.

 

[NorthDakota]

Exactly. And people need to not be so picky if our QB next year is Cade McNamara. If people think Pyne or Buchner could be the QB on a CFP team then I have some ocean front property in Nebraska to sell them.

Its perfectly defensible to believe Buchner could. He has very good tools. He could also be horrible. We don't have anything resembling a sample size.

Pyne ain't taking us anywhere. Buchner might not either. But at least he's a stellar athlete.

 

[Crazy Balki]

Exactly. And people need to not be so picky if our QB next year is Cade McNamara. If people think Pyne or Buchner could be the QB on a CFP team then I have some ocean front property in Nebraska to sell them.

Same can be said for McNamara.

He was essentially what Pyne is for us. A solid QB so long as we can run the ball and design the offense around it. He's not a guy to center an offense around. Rees needed to continue to use Pyne as a game-manager and not a playmaker. He put the game in Pyne's hands early and it burned them. If ND goes after McNamara, it's going to be the same.

 

[stlnd01]

Same can be said for McNamara.

He was essentially what Pyne is for us. A solid QB so long as we can run the ball and design the offense around it. He's not a guy to center an offense around. Rees needed to continue to use Pyne as a game-manager and not a playmaker. He put the game in Pyne's hands early and it burned them. If ND goes after McNamara, it's going to be the same.

To be fair Rees did not ask Pyne to be much of a playmaker until Stanford forced him to by loading the box and doubling Mayer. And Pyne had great numbers through three games.
But…

 

[NDMatt91]

Same can be said for McNamara.

He was essentially what Pyne is for us. A solid QB so long as we can run the ball and design the offense around it. He's not a guy to center an offense around. Rees needed to continue to use Pyne as a game-manager and not a playmaker. He put the game in Pyne's hands early and it burned them. If ND goes after McNamara, it's going to be the same.

McNamara is by no means a great QB, but he's better than Pyne. He's not #1 on my list of grad transfer QB's but I'd take him if he's the best we can get. Hudson Card is still my #1.

 

[IrishLion]

There aren't any freshmen taking the world by storm for lesser P5 or G5 teams this year, so the transfer market is going to boil down to an incumbent that gets shown the door for a younger guy, or a junior/senior that will be able to graduate early and grad transfer to ND.

List of juniors playing well that you might be able to steal if you get the recruiting pitch right:
- Jalon Daniels - Kansas
- Garrett Shrader - Syracuse

I can't think of any obvious incumbents that might get shown the door or see the writing on the wall once the season ends, but I'm sure there will be 4 or 5 unexpected semi-high-profile names we aren't aware of that will test the waters.

 

[dublinirish]

Kansas definitely gonna have 1 of their 2 starting calibur guys transfer and be a hot commodity

 

[CanadalovesND]

There aren't any freshmen taking the world by storm for lesser P5 or G5 teams this year, so the transfer market is going to boil down to an incumbent that gets shown the door for a younger guy, or a junior/senior that will be able to graduate early and grad transfer to ND.

List of juniors playing well that you might be able to steal if you get the recruiting pitch right:
- Jalon Daniels - Kansas
- Garrett Shrader - Syracuse

I can't think of any obvious incumbents that might get shown the door or see the writing on the wall once the season ends, but I'm sure there will be 4 or 5 unexpected semi-high-profile names we aren't aware of that will test the waters.

I thought Schrader could be a transfer QB we should target, but since Syracuse is kicking ass and Dino Babers job looks to be safe for the next couple of years, it would be a very interesting decision to transfer on his part.

 

[stlnd01]

I thought Schrader could be a transfer QB we should target, but since Syracuse is kicking ass and Dino Babers job looks to be safe for the next couple of years, it would be a very interesting decision to transfer on his part.

Who knows, maybe Babers finally gets hired away.
For that matter, any other good QBs who are looking at a coaching change that might have them open to a new situation? Graham Mertz?

 

[ThePiombino]

What makes anyone think that ND, a school that doesn't play the same NIL game the majority of CFB plays, is going to get a difference maker whose beggar than Buchner next season?

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[FOTY977]

What makes anyone think that ND, a school that doesn't play the same NIL game the majority of CFB plays, is going to get a difference maker whose beggar than Buchner next season?

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I know they don’t play the upfront NIL game, but I have to think a grad transfer with a decent following could have some good opportunities at ND for NIL, no? I really don’t know how their NIL approach to transfers compares to how they approach freshman.

 

[Crazy Balki]

To be fair Rees did not ask Pyne to be much of a playmaker until Stanford forced him to by loading the box and doubling Mayer. And Pyne had great numbers through three games.
But…

That's the point. There's zero chance that Michigan would allow Stanford's garbage defense to dictate how they play.

Teams consistently tried to load up the box against Michigan's front and most of them failed to stop them from doing what they did anyways. It isn't that ND tried to establish the run and failed, it's that Tommy never seemed to even try to establish it and stick with it, and when he did try, it was after a 1st down play went for naught via the pass, so they'd try and run on 2nd and long.

We've heard constantly that MF wants the lines to dictate the game, yet they played as if that wasn't even an option half the time.

If that's the idea, I'd rather just take my chances with Buchner or Angeli. Nothing about what I've seen from McNamara tells me he's going to be anything more than a slightly better Pyne, if that.

 

[ThePiombino]

I know they don’t play the upfront NIL game, but I have to think a grad transfer with a decent following could have some good opportunities at ND for NIL, no? I really don’t know how their NIL approach to transfers compares to how they approach freshman.

I know this, you know this. Problem is the elite players want theirs up front. They don't want to wait.

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