2023 Fall Camp

[Ophiocordyceps]

2 Deep getting me Hype

 

[NDFAN2008]

I'm pretty sure Correll has one year left after this if he wants it so we could return 4 OL starters next year?

 

[Huntr]

I'm pretty sure Correll has one year left after this if he wants it so we could return 4 OL starters next year?

Alt and Fisher would be stupid to not enter the draft. And they aren't stupid.

But, sure, they will have remaining eligibility.

 

[Domina Nostra]

Alt and Fisher would be stupid to not enter the draft. And they aren't stupid.

But, sure, they will have remaining eligibility.

It's not that straightforward for Fisher. If he plays LT and gets signed in the first round, vs. a second or third round RT, he will make a ton more money.

 

[irishfan]

Alt and Fisher would be stupid to not enter the draft. And they aren't stupid.

But, sure, they will have remaining eligibility.

Fisher may want to return to play LT and boost his draft status

 

[zelezo vlk]

We also hoped the same for Aaron Banks, no? I find it unlikely that Fisher will come back, but that would be my hope

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

Lots of "Or's" in the RB room LOL

ND depth is stupid. It's evident why Diggs left, still wish he hadn't, but I get it.

Ford doing KR is neat. I still think Love is going to prove too good to keep off the field this year, which is insane considering he's "fifth" on the depth chart.

 

[IrishLax]

It's not that straightforward for Fisher. If he plays LT and gets signed in the first round, vs. a second or third round RT, he will make a ton more money.

Also... NIL. If you have will parties, it's not complicated to compensate a midround pick with first round upside to entice them to return.

 

[condoms SUCk]

ND depth is stupid. It's evident why Diggs left, still wish he hadn't, but I get it.

Ford doing KR is neat. I still think Love is going to prove too good to keep off the field this year, which is insane considering he's "fifth" on the depth chart.

I expect Ford to be jumped by Love by the end of the szn.

 

[Irish#1]

Lots of "Or's" in the RB room LOL

Translation = Estime or whomever is hot that day.

 

[stpeteirish]

ND depth is stupid. It's evident why Diggs left, still wish he hadn't, but I get it.

Ford doing KR is neat. I still think Love is going to prove too good to keep off the field this year, which is insane considering he's "fifth" on the depth chart.

Not really. Ford came after Diggs left. Diggs was right there with Estime as 1a and 1b.
Diggs leaving is great for guys like Love and Payne who are going to get a lot more chances with Diggs gone but its pretty doubtful they were beating him out.

 

[IrishLax]

You guys remember when the backfield was Cam McDaniel and George Atkinson? Good times.

 

[NDMatt91]

You guys remember when the backfield was Cam McDaniel and George Atkinson? Good times.

Woof. That wasn't very fun.

 

[TheProspector]

You guys remember when the backfield was Cam McDaniel and George Atkinson? Good times.

I'll see your 2013 backfield of McDaniel/Atkinson/Folston/Carlisle and raise you the 2019 backfield of Jafar Armstrong, Tony Jones, Jahmir Smith, and CBo Flemister although Jones was admittedly a good player. The other 3 though? Yikes.

 

[IrishLax]

I'll see your 2013 backfield of McDaniel/Atkinson and raise you the 2019 backfield of Jafar Armstrong, Tony Jones, Jahmir Smith, and CBo Flemister.

At least Tony Jones got a cup of coffee in the NFL but yeah.... woof...

I would argue that every single one of those guys is less talented than at least 4 of our current RBs. Possibly all five.

 

[WilliamWallace]

So I guess I was hoping to see something more out of Aidan K. this off-season. Is the silence telling? Or is there any hope he could make an impact in the future?

 

[TheProspector]

At least Tony Jones got a cup of coffee in the NFL but yeah.... woof...

I would argue that every single one of those guys is less talented than at least 4 of our current RBs. Possibly all five.

Agreed. BK was hoping he could pull a Prosise 2.0 with Jafar which backfired.

And on a tangent, to show you how far along CB depth has come along, we actually cross trained Cam Freaking McDaniel at CB during the 2012 season. Our backup CBs that year were Josh Atkinson and Jalen Brown with Elijah Shumate playing slot corner/nickel. The fact that team even made the title game is astounding (but more likely speaks to how insanely good our front 7 was).

 

[WilliamWallace]

Agreed. BK was hoping he could pull a Prosise 2.0 with Jafar which backfired.

And on a tangent, to show you how far along CB depth has come along, we actually cross trained Cam Freaking McDaniel at CB during the 2012 season. Our backup CBs that year were Josh Atkinson and Jalen Brown with Elijah Shumate playing slot corner/nickel. The fact that team even made the title game is astounding (but more likely speaks to how insanely good our front 7 was).

I am thoroughly impressed by the memory some of you have. But, yes, how far we’ve come. I used to think that ND would never put together a solid CB unit.

 

[Luckylucci]

So I guess I was hoping to see something more out of Aidan K. this off-season. Is the silence telling? Or is there any hope he could make an impact in the future?

Rubio and Onye have eligibility into next season. I would think it'll be difficult for AK to crack the rotation.

You guys remember when the backfield was Cam McDaniel and George Atkinson? Good times.

I mean, that's not really a fair or accurate depiction of how the roster was built to look. They brought in a highly sought after transfer in Amir Carlisle from USC. Huge win at the time. He had 47 carries in 2013. Just signed a stellar RB class with Folston and Bryant. Folston was very good as a true Freshman. He had 88 carries to Atkinson's 93.

 

[NDohio]

 

[zelezo vlk]

Rubio and Onye have eligibility into next season. I would think it'll be difficult for AK to crack the rotation.


I mean, that's not really a fair or accurate depiction of how the roster was built to look. They brought in a highly sought after transfer in Amir Carlisle from USC. Huge win at the time. He had 47 carries in 2013. Just signed a stellar RB class with Folston and Bryant. Folston was very good as a true Freshman. He had 88 carries to Atkinson's 93.

And I think that was with missing part of the year with mono or something, right? Or just wasn't used much. People really forget how good Folston was until he tore his ACL in the first game in 2015.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

Agreed. BK was hoping he could pull a Prosise 2.0 with Jafar which backfired.

And on a tangent, to show you how far along CB depth has come along, we actually cross trained Cam Freaking McDaniel at CB during the 2012 season. Our backup CBs that year were Josh Atkinson and Jalen Brown with Elijah Shumate playing slot corner/nickel. The fact that team even made the title game is astounding (but more likely speaks to how insanely good our front 7 was).

I think Armstrong had an abdominal injury and was never the same guy afterwards.

 

[WilliamWallace]

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That made him famous for a brief period

 

[DONTH8]

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I'll never understand how we let Addidas have their logo in that location. Criminal.

 

[rtrn2glory]

I like the idea of Tyree at punt returner

 

[Domina Nostra]

I like the idea of Tyree at punt returner

Not sure I do. I would have wanted one of the freshman WRs (Flores or Greathouse) Tyree doesn’t seem tenacious enough.

 

[Reaper97]

Did anyone hear the II podcast last week when they talked about how useless punt returns are now?
The average number of returns per game was less than 1.5
The team that lead the nation in yards return average was like 8 yards per return.
Just catch the ball, don’t muff it.

 

[Wild Bill]

Did anyone hear the II podcast last week when they talked about how useless punt returns are now?
The average number of returns per game was less than 1.5
The team that lead the nation in yards return average was like 8 yards per return.
Just catch the ball, don’t muff it.

Eight yards doesn't sound like much but the odds of putting points on the board increases quite a bit based on where you start - it used to be something like 10% higher for every ten yards on your side of the field.

You have to catch the ball whether it's a fair catch, a one yard gain or eight yard gain so I why not find a weakness and exploit it if you can.

 

[CanadalovesND]

Did anyone hear the II podcast last week when they talked about how useless punt returns are now?
The average number of returns per game was less than 1.5
The team that lead the nation in yards return average was like 8 yards per return.
Just catch the ball, don’t muff it.

Makes Brandon Joseph’s individual punt return average of 9.9 quite impressive.

 

[rtrn2glory]

Not sure I do. I would have wanted one of the freshman WRs (Flores or Greathouse) Tyree doesn’t seem tenacious enough.

If Mason was still here I'd guarantee a house call on a return this year with him. However with the new guy not going to go that far