2023 Bowl Projections

[PutuporShutup]

I live the ACC footprint and it would be great for me, but the conference iis an after thought.

It might be, but the big ten is really 3 teams right now in football and that's it. If you can add ND to Miami, FSU, Clemson and keep improving Duke/UNC you've got a really good football conference. Nebraska will never be the same, iowa is folding, who knows what happens with MSU, wisconsin is probably going to be the fourth team but they are a ways away. Louisville, NC State, V Tech are teams as well that are doing more to get back to being a top 25 program than most other big ten schools.

Big Ten landing USC, Washington, Oregon is pretty big though.

 

[RDU Irish]

Its a totally different in-season objective next year versus this year. A two loss ND is going to make the playoffs more often than not, one loss and you are certainly in. You are building your team to peak in December/January instead of risking everything to go undefeated and make the playoffs. I see more WTF losses as teams get up for the 1-2 big games and Louisville or Navy sneak up on them. Committees already outright say they weigh big wins more than bad losses. Big upside is the name of the game.

One interesting side drama next year - who sits out for the draft? Why risk 1st or 2nd round money to play the most brutal month of college football we have ever seen? Your NIL checks will have already cleared - will we see NIL money needing to bribe kids to play in the playoffs? I mean, they will have pretty huge leverage.

 

[NDWarrior]

Oops, sorry about that... I see that we already have Bowl Projections 2023 vs. this one -- 2023 Bowl Projections. I did a search on Notre Dame Football folder and saw Bowl Projections 2022 but not one for 2023 so assumed there was not one yet established. Maybe we can merge these two or we can delete this one?

 

[RDU Irish]

It might be, but the big ten is really 3 teams right now in football and that's it. If you can add ND to Miami, FSU, Clemson and keep improving Duke/UNC you've got a really good football conference. Nebraska will never be the same, iowa is folding, who knows what happens with MSU, wisconsin is probably going to be the fourth team but they are a ways away.

You just made a great case for relegation being the only way forward long term. Lower level of these conferences are garbage.

 

[Irish#1]

Don't like the quasi-conference schedule with no flexibility? You get less flexibility playing in a conference. I'm not saying don't join, but the schedule part arguing for a conference doesn't make sense.

 

[TNUtoNotreDame]

I've tried to explain it multiple times. Your total focus is that the fact that because these 3 games are locked in somehow takes away from our independence. My refute is that if you asked ND if you could be totally independent and you asked ND what are the 3 games you want to schedule no matter what, they would respond with USC, Navy and Stanford. That is how strong they feel about those games. These 3 games are used repeatedly why ND needs to remain independent. You use them as a sign that those games take away from ND's independence.

I will not continue to engage anymore on this topic.

I am not saying they take away, they ARE LOCKED. They are going no where. I have said that many times... But you keep missing the other games that I mentioned (buy games) and in the end we are talking about very few games. I am still waiting for any argument that spells out the benefits. I am using it as a tool to state we have 8 games locked. In conference (Big 10) we will have USC on schedule, maybe Stanford (we would likely want them to come along). We are talking past each other, but the logic I am using is focusing on the lack of flexibility. "Independence" does not give us that much flexibility. It does not take away from ND's independence, but it does make it seem stupid to fight for something that in the end would still carry-on even if we did join.

I got the logic you were using (the very first time), I just disagreed with the premise in which you were using to argue your point.

 

[TNUtoNotreDame]

Don't like the quasi-conference schedule with no flexibility? You get less flexibility playing in a conference. I'm not saying don't join, but the schedule part arguing for a conference doesn't make sense.

My whole argument really centers around the ACC agreement. The 3 locked games is almost an add on. But in general the flexibility that the ACC gives is not great. The argument I am employing is that joining a conference in full will not really mess up our schedule that much at all. I am still waiting on a convincing argument that says independence is the bee-knees. I am willing to listen.

 

[GATTACA!]

But the same crap will repeat itself. Last year it was playing into 7 BYEs (that is insane). This year it's having a near impossible schedule through 8, then 2 of our own BYEs in 4 weeks that are unnecessary.

Next year, what if we get Tulane QB and it all comes together and we're 12-0, #1 in country. And we have a freaking forced 1st round playoff game. All this evil has a center point - Inde-freaking-pendence.

Who cares? It’s that or a CCG. Plus the playoff game would be at home in that scenario.

 

[GATTACA!]

It might be, but the big ten is really 3 teams right now in football and that's it. If you can add ND to Miami, FSU, Clemson and keep improving Duke/UNC you've got a really good football conference. Nebraska will never be the same, iowa is folding, who knows what happens with MSU, wisconsin is probably going to be the fourth team but they are a ways away. Louisville, NC State, V Tech are teams as well that are doing more to get back to being a top 25 program than most other big ten schools.

Big Ten landing USC, Washington, Oregon is pretty big though.

And it looks like the NCAA might be about to send Michigan back to the Stone Age. So yeah down to two.

 

[irish4ever]

Assuming the Irish win out (10-2), it appears that they are stating ND could be in a NY6 bowl w/ a SEC match-up ... Mark Schlabach and OddShark both project Notre Dame to face Alabama in the postseason (Peach or Cotton Bowl).

Others have them in a non-NY6 bowl ... CollegeFootbalNews.com has Notre Dame slated to face Tennessee in the ReliaQuest Bowl. ESPN's Kyle Bonagura and Jerry Palm at CBS Sports both have Notre Dame slated to play Oklahoma State in the Pop Tarts Bowl, while Sporting News and Athlon have the Irish slated to take on Kansas State in the Pop Tarts Bowl.

Initially, I was hoping for a ND-L$U (Kryan Belly) match-up, but I'd prefer a matchup with Bama (Rees) instead, or I'd be ok with either Tenn. or K State. I'm not really intrigued with the potential Okl. St. game as the Irish played them in the Fiesta Bowl just a couple years ago.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

If we can get a big name program, that's what you want after a 10-2 season.

In terms of excitement/fear: LSU, Bama, Oregon (because I want Freeman to beat Lanning's ass on the field), Oklahoma.

The problem with each of those teams is we will need our defense to play lights out because our offense is so hot/cold. I think Bama is toughest of that group because of their defense.

Obviously, if you want a winnable NY6 game then hopefully it's someone we match up really well against.

 

[Lberry]

Who cares? It’s that or a CCG. Plus the playoff game would be at home in that scenario.

If we're #3 in the country and forced to play a 2 loss Georgia in the first round and lose, everyone to answer your question. Everyone here will care.

This scenario is coming and just because we aren't feeling it now does not mean we shouldn't mitigate it.

 

[RipWheeler]

If we can get a big name program, that's what you want after a 10-2 season.

In terms of excitement/fear: LSU, Bama, Oregon (because I want Freeman to beat Lanning's ass on the field), Oklahoma.

The problem with each of those teams is we will need our defense to play lights out because our offense is so hot/cold. I think Bama is toughest of that group because of their defense.

Obviously, if you want a winnable NY6 game then hopefully it's someone we match up really well against.

As an Oregon resident being surrounded by obnoxious hipster Duck fans, I approve of this message. Would love for the Irish to beat the ass.

 

[stlnd01]

If we can get a big name program, that's what you want after a 10-2 season.

In terms of excitement/fear: LSU, Bama, Oregon (because I want Freeman to beat Lanning's ass on the field), Oklahoma.

The problem with each of those teams is we will need our defense to play lights out because our offense is so hot/cold. I think Bama is toughest of that group because of their defense.

Obviously, if you want a winnable NY6 game then hopefully it's someone we match up really well against.

It's so hard to clock matchups in bowl games now b/c you don't know who'll actually play in them. I'd guess most of our guys do, but who knows. Other teams I have no idea.

Either way I very much hope we land in an NY6. Assuming we go 10-2 of course. We'd probably be ranked like 8th by the end of the season and being relegated to the Pop Tarts bowl against Oklahoma State would be pretty shitty.

 

[GATTACA!]

If we're #3 in the country and forced to play a 2 loss Georgia in the first round and lose, everyone to answer your question. Everyone here will care.

This scenario is coming and just because we aren't feeling it now does not mean we shouldn't mitigate it.

If we lose to a 2 loss Georgia we aren't beating an undefeated OSU or Michigan in a CCG.

Also being the top ranked at large we'd be likely to draw the G5 team anyways.

 

[Giddyup]

I want to take on Utah and see this board wizard Andy Ludwig in action.

 

[BleedingGold]

I’d be happy with Chair Force vs Notre Dame. 11-2 with a big bowl win to lead us into recruiting.

 

[calvegas04]

I want no part of Oregon, we aren't build for a shoot out

 

[Reaper97]

I’d be happy with Chair Force vs Notre Dame. 11-2 with a big bowl win to lead us into recruiting.

Chair Force?
As a former member of AFSOC & JSOC, I would gladly except any challenge from you and whatever “tough” branch you were a part of.

 

[CanadalovesND]

Chair Force?
As a former member of AFSOC & JSOC, I would gladly except any challenge from you and whatever “tough” branch you were a part of.

Airsoft boot camp.

 

[dublinirish]

Chair Force?
As a former member of AFSOC & JSOC, I would gladly except any challenge from you and whatever “tough” branch you were a part of.

I can show you my stats from Battlefield 1942 to present day

 

[Ndaccountant]

Chair Force?
As a former member of AFSOC & JSOC, I would gladly except any challenge from you and whatever “tough” branch you were a part of.

 

[BleedingGold]

Chair Force?
As a former member of AFSOC & JSOC, I would gladly except any challenge from you and whatever “tough” branch you were a part of.

I would have been disappointed if you didn’t respond 😂. Clearly trolling for the smart kids. My son seems smart enough to pass on crayon eating with his grandfather and I, just settle into his role as a marine Uber driver.

 

[condoms SUCk]

Assuming the Irish win out (10-2), it appears that they are stating ND could be in a NY6 bowl w/ a SEC match-up ... Mark Schlabach and OddShark both project Notre Dame to face Alabama in the postseason (Peach or Cotton Bowl).

I'd be fine w/ this. I went to the Bama/ Tenn the other weekend, Bama has been getting breaks all year, I'm fully expecting LSU to beat them this week. Their o-line is doo doo and the only offense they have is Milroe running around.

 

[Irish#1]

Chair Force?
As a former member of AFSOC & JSOC, I would gladly except any challenge from you and whatever “tough” branch you were a part of.

Ghost team?

 

[calvegas04]

Chair Force?
As a former member of AFSOC & JSOC, I would gladly except any challenge from you and whatever “tough” branch you were a part of.

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[TorontoGold]

I can show you my stats from Battlefield 1942 to present day

"Enemy AC130 above!"

 

[IrishSteelhead]

If we can get a big name program, that's what you want after a 10-2 season.

In terms of excitement/fear: LSU, Bama, Oregon (because I want Freeman to beat Lanning's ass on the field), Oklahoma.

The problem with each of those teams is we will need our defense to play lights out because our offense is so hot/cold. I think Bama is toughest of that group because of their defense.

Obviously, if you want a winnable NY6 game then hopefully it's someone we match up really well against.

Doesn’t matter who, we have to make NY6 and win.

It would be incredible if Freeman did something in year 2 Kelly never even came close to doing.

(unless you consider simply getting invited and then being boat raced for 60 minutes getting close)


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[GATTACA!]

Doesn’t matter who, we have to make NY6 and win.

It would be incredible if Freeman did something in year 2 Kelly never even came close to doing.

(unless you consider simply getting invited and then being boat raced for 60 minutes getting close)


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Agreed. Give me Air Force. Idc I want an easy out.

 

[Lberry]

a NY6 bowl is so important that I don't really care who we'd get, but I wouldn't mind another shot at OSU at all. Our defense is playing even better and I think we'd get it done.