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I'm still waiting for one of the Trump-cucks to post some proof.

Let's start:

https://lasvegassun.com/news/2020/jul/16/cries-of-voter-fraud-should-be-aimed-at-those-comm/

Yeah, Watkins was laughable and sad. He lived in Alaska, got their permanent funds checks for residents for a decade and rarely visited his district. His father set up a PAC to funnel money to his son's campaign. The FEC is investigating. What is also laughable is Kobach, the former head of Trump's Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity, in this.

Kobach downplays charges against Watkins despite similarity to voter cases he pursued

The Commission, even with Kobach as head, did not find any evidence of widespread voter fraud (but evidently did not look at the other cases in the article) and wanted personal voter data from Secs of State and then from DoJ.

Voter disenfranchisement is back. "Block the Vote!!"
 
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There isn’t. Trump outright stated he’s doing it to handicap the Post Office and make voting by mail impossible come November. His words.

Here's a different read on the USPS saga. I don't have too much of a view on the issue other than that Trump is an idiot for saying what he said. From the WSJ Editorial Board:

Speaker Nancy Pelosi is calling the House back into session this week to address fears that the U.S. Postal Service is being infiltrated by alien lizard people posing as letter carriers. OK, it isn’t quite that bad. The actual conspiracy theory holds that President Trump is strangling the USPS to hack the November election.

But talk about “unsubstantiated,” as the press likes to call Donald Trump’s Twitter emissions. Democrats should be deeply embarrassed that their leadership has embraced such claims. Two Congressmen, including Democratic Caucus Chairman Hakeem Jeffries, wrote to the FBI on Monday to urge, if you can believe it, a criminal investigation of Postmaster General Louis DeJoy.

“This conspiracy theory is the most far-flung thing I think I’ve ever heard,” says Stephen Kearney, who worked at the USPS for 33 years, including as treasurer and a senior vice president. “DeJoy was not appointed by President Trump,” but by the USPS’s bipartisan governors. (Who, as it happens, selected him unanimously.)

“You can find valid operational reasons for the actions taken by the Postal Service so far,” says Mike Plunkett, another longtime USPS executive who now leads the Association for Postal Commerce. “In no way do I detect any criminality behind them, and I’m at a loss as to how one would reach that conclusion.”

The Democratic letter to the FBI cites news reports that the USPS is decommissioning hundreds of mail-sorting machines. But the context is that overall mail volume has fallen 33% since 2006. “They’ve been taking machines out of service for years now, and I’ve been encouraging them to do it more aggressively,” says Hamilton Davison, the president of the American Catalog Mailers Association. “I think that’s a good thing for America, because we don’t want to pay for stuff that we don’t need.”

Mr. Kearney, who now runs the Alliance of Nonprofit Mailers, concurs. “It’s obvious, to be efficient and not waste money, you need to take out some of that capacity,” he says. His group has similarly been urging productivity improvements, “because if they don’t do that, our postage rates are going to go way up.” A leaked USPS document floating in the online ether is titled “Equipment Reduction.” But it’s dated May 15, and Mr. DeJoy took over June 15.

Another claim is that the USPS is pulling blue collection bins off the street en masse. “They’re going around literally with tractor trailers picking up mailboxes,” Joe Biden said last week. “I mean, it’s bizarre!” The USPS says it has nearly 142,000 boxes across the country, which are adjusted as volume and costs dictate. In August 2016, the USPS’s Inspector General said that “the number of collection boxes declined by more than 12,000 in the past 5 years.” Voter suppression by the Obama Administration?

Alarmed Twitter users last week posted a photo of mailboxes on a flatbed truck in New Jersey. Oops: “Morristown Mayor Tim Dougherty said the mailboxes were being replaced with new anti-fishing boxes,” the local newspaper explained. On Monday the USPS said it would postpone this security upgrade for 90 days “while we evaluate our customers’ concerns”—in other words, to keep jittery partisans on the internet from losing their minds before Nov. 3.

Mr. DeJoy is being knocked for trying to cut overtime costs. But is it any wonder? The day he was sworn in, the Inspector General reported that in 2019 the post office “spent $1.1 billion in mail processing overtime and penalty overtime, $280 million in late and extra transportation, and $2.9 billion in delivery overtime and penalty overtime costs.” For context, the USPS’s overall loss that year was $8.8 billion.


Mrs. Pelosi is trying to put on a political show, starring Democrats as the saviors of the post office. She says she wants to pass a bill that “prohibits the Postal Service from implementing any changes to operations or level of service it had in place on January 1.” Also in the mix may be a $25 billion cash infusion. Then Chuck Schumer will demand that the Senate come back to town for the same vote. By the way the letter-carriers union endorsed Joe Biden on the weekend.

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This is a made-for-TV phony political crisis. The USPS has long-term challenges, but enough money to last into 2021. Mr. DeJoy says there’s “ample capacity to deliver all election mail.” Some states have startlingly lax ballot deadlines, but nobody can pretend with a straight face that it’s the post office’s fault. Democrats have also scheduled a hearing for next Monday so they can yell at Mr. DeJoy in person. How long before Rep. Adam Schiff says it’s another Russia-Donald Trump conspiracy to steal the election?
 

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The last thing the Reps want is all mail-in voting. Colorado's system has worked for years without any fraud and voter participation is up. A detailed explanation on how it works.

Colorado’s vote-by-mail ballots begin life in Washington State and end in storage. Here’s what happens in between.
Checks and redundancies have made the state’s system the gold standard, experts agree


The dropboxes are convenient and secure.

Until antifa sets them on fire or intimidation happens.
 

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Biden did very well last night (relative to expectations). If he can lay low and perform similarly in the debates, I don't see how Trump can win this thing.
 

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Biden did very well last night (relative to expectations). If he can lay low and perform similarly in the debates, I don't see how Trump can win this thing.

Best speech I've ever seen him give. Interested to see what kind of message Trump goes with at the RNC.
 

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Stop with the facts. They always get in the way of a good story. lol

Except that the whole article is basically bullshit. Dismantling and scrapping the machines cost money, it doesn't save it. From an efficiency standpoint you can just unplug them versus permanently decommissioning them (especially given the fact that, per the notice given by the USPS, they are claiming they don't have the capacity to handle the projected volume of mail this fall).

Trump also admitted in his own words why he kneecapping the post office, and the post office has not only seen delays/reduction in service recently but they sent notices to states saying they "don't have capacity" to handle ballot requests.

The spin job now is weeks late and wholly inadequate. I can't believe anyone would buy those quotes and that narrative over all of the other quotes/reporting that is out there... and the President's own words.
 

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Best speech I've ever seen him give. Interested to see what kind of message Trump goes with at the RNC.

Last night Joe Biden showed exactly why he’s so dangerous to our country: his willingness to read whatever words his puppet masters write for him, even if it goes against 47 years of his history.
 

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Except that the whole article is basically bullshit. Dismantling and scrapping the machines cost money, it doesn't save it. From an efficiency standpoint you can just unplug them versus permanently decommissioning them (especially given the fact that, per the notice given by the USPS, they are claiming they don't have the capacity to handle the projected volume of mail this fall).

Trump also admitted in his own words why he kneecapping the post office, and the post office has not only seen delays/reduction in service recently but they sent notices to states saying they "don't have capacity" to handle ballot requests.

The spin job now is weeks late and wholly inadequate. I can't believe anyone would buy those quotes and that narrative over all of the other quotes/reporting that is out there... and the President's own words.

Sure it costs money to pull them out. I'm not disagreeing on that or that Trump has made some remarks that don't look good. No doubt this isn't a good look for him. My point was some of these decisions were made prior to DeJoy, yet some believe they were done just recently under his watch. If the Dems weren't so emotional and were more pragmatic and calculating this would be a slam dunk for them, but they feel the need to to yell "see I told you so" as soon as Trump moves his lips.
 

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Sure it costs money to pull them out. I'm not disagreeing on that or that Trump has made some remarks that don't look good. No doubt this isn't a good look for him. My point was some of these decisions were made prior to DeJoy, yet some believe they were done just recently under his watch. If the Dems weren't so emotional and were more pragmatic and calculating this would be a slam dunk for them, but they feel the need to to yell "see I told you so" as soon as Trump moves his lips.

OK that's valid. I don't buy that DeJoy is the boggieman either or uniquely responsible for what's going on. I just take Trump's statements at face value given the corresponding actions and their results.
 

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Last night Joe Biden showed exactly why he’s so dangerous to our country: his willingness to read whatever words his puppet masters write for him, even if it goes against 47 years of his history.

Yes, the guy who *checks notes* gives a speech of unity is more dangerous than the guy who is mismanaging a pandemic; ballooned the deficit by trillions during a booming economy by giving massive tax breaks to corporations and the ultra wealthy instead of the middle class; and literally surrounds himself with convicted criminals in this inner circle. You nailed it.
 

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OK that's valid. I don't buy that DeJoy is the boggieman either or uniquely responsible for what's going on. I just take Trump's statements at face value given the corresponding actions and their results.

I think Trump is an idiot that just runs his mouth for no rhyme or reason.
 

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Yes, the guy who *checks notes* gives a speech of unity is more dangerous than the guy who is mismanaging a pandemic; ballooned the deficit by trillions during a booming economy by giving massive tax breaks to corporations and the ultra wealthy instead of the middle class; and literally surrounds himself with convicted criminals in this inner circle. You nailed it.

I'm a tweener. I support Trump on a number of things, but I question a number of his shenanigans.
 

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Here's a different read on the USPS saga. I don't have too much of a view on the issue other than that Trump is an idiot for saying what he said. From the WSJ Editorial Board:

Stop with the facts. They always get in the way of a good story. lol

Commentary from the WSJ editorial board is hardly unbiased fact-finding, friends. There are valid business points to a lot of what this criminal administration is trying to pull, however let's not be blind to the fact that Trump is a cheating scumbag who is desperate to hold his office. Once he is forced from his throne, SDNY gonna fuck him.

Also, the Postal Service is not a business, it's a service.
 

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Yes, the guy who *checks notes* gives a speech of unity is more dangerous than the guy who is mismanaging a pandemic; ballooned the deficit by trillions during a booming economy by giving massive tax breaks to corporations and the ultra wealthy instead of the middle class; and literally surrounds himself with convicted criminals in this inner circle. You nailed it.

I love watching old Lax come out of hibernation. It's like the creature from "Jeepers Creepers" when he takes Justin Long's character away.

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Senate Races

Senate Races

Thirty-three Senate seats will be decided. Reps are defending 23 seats. Dems are defending 10. Nine of those ten are considered to be Likely or Solid Democratic. The only Senate race defended by Dems is a possible loss - Doug Jones in Alabama - rated Lean Rep.

Thirteen of the twenty-three Rep Senate seats are considered Likely or Solid Republican wins. The winners in the other ten Senate races now with a Rep incumbent will decide the Senate.

AZ - Martha McSally (R), appointed to the seat to fill out the remainder of John McCain's seat, is consistently polling behind Mark Kelly (D), the astronaut and husband of Gabby Giffords by about 5-6%. McSally ran for the other AZ Senate seat in 2018 and lost. Rating - Leans Dem

CO - Former Colorado Gov and Denver Mayor, John Hickenlooper (D), who is popular there, has been polling 6 points better than incumbent, Corey Gardner (R). Rating - Leans Dem

ME - Susan Collins (R) has been running behind Sara Gideon, current Speaker of the House in Maine by 5-7 percentage points. Trump has not endorsed Collins, who voted on Trump bills 67% of the time. Gideon is well-funded raising $23 million by her primary and is only 48 years old. Collins has been in the Senate for 24 years. Rating - Toss-Up

NC - Thom Tillis (R) is a strong Trump advocate, voting with him 93% of the time. Cal Cunningham (D), an Irag and Afghanistan war vet with a Bronze star, has consistently been running 4% points ahead of Tillis in multiple polls. Rating - Toss-Up

MT - Another popular Dem Gov, Steve Bullock, is running ahead of incumbent Steve Daines (R) with the most recent poll putting Bullock up by 6%. Montanans favor Bullock's response to the coronavirus at 70%. Trump's response to the virus is rated by them at 53%. Rating - Toss-Up

IA - Incumbent Joni Ernst (R) is also running behind the Dem candidate, Theresa Greenfield, a businesswoman. Back in January, Ernst who strongly backs Trump was found to be the third most unpopular Senator with only a 37% approval rating among Iowa voters. According to the survey, 42% of Iowans disapprove of her as a senator. (Only Sens. Susan Collins of Maine and Mitch McConnell of Kentucky polled worse than Ernst.) Only one poll since early June had Ernst ahead of her opponent. Ernst voted with Trump 91% of the time. Factors may be the failure of new trade deals hurting Iowa farmers and Ernst allegiance to Trump. Ernst is vice-chair of the Senate Republican Conference. Rating - Toss-Up

KS - Open seat. Rep Roger Marshall (R) is given a slight edge over Barbara Bollier, a surgeon, primarily due to the Republican bent of the state. Marshall is an obstetrician. Bollier went to KU. Marshall went to K-State. Bollier has represented the eastern part of Kansas, the KC suburbs. Marshall represents the rural western part of the state. Rating - Lean Rep

Of note, in South Carolina, the race between Lindsey Graham (R) and former South Carolina Democratic Party Chairman Jaime Harrison is tightening up with the most recent polls showing the race as tied. If Harrison were to win, SC would be the first state to have two African-American Senators at the same time. Rating - Leans Rep
https://cookpolitical.com/analysis/...-carolina-senate-moves-likely-lean-republican

The other two are the Georgia Senate races - more later.
 
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Of those other two Senate races that are close - both in Georgia:

Ga (Regular) - David Perdue (R, incumbent) has been leading by 4% in polls over Jon Ossoff (D). Perdue is the cousin of Sonny Perdue, former Ga Gov and current Secr of Agriculture. He has been the CEO of Reebok, Pillowtex, Dollar General and recently started Perdue Partners, a global trading company with Sonny. Perdue has been criticized for an ad attacking his opponent with an image that enlarged Ossoff's nose and justaposed him with Chuck Schumer, both of whom are Jewish, saying they are trying to "buy Georgia". Ossoff is an investigative journalist. Perdue's three fold increase in stock-trading after the Senate was briefed on Covid on Jan 24, dumping some stocks and investments in otheres including a company producing PPE, raised some criticism. Rating - Lean Rep

Georgia's ("jungle") special election - In Jan, Ga Gov, Brian Kemp, appointed Kelly Loeffler (R) to fill out Ga's other Senate seat until the Nov election. Loeffler and her husband, Jeffrey Sprecher, own the Intercontinental Exchange, which owns the NY Stock Exchange, equity options exchanges and OTC energy, credit and equity markets, 12 regulated exchanges and marketplaces and 6 central clearing houses. Together they are worth $500 million. Forbes places their wealth at $800 million. Ga's jungle election is one that has no primaries. A runoff, if necessary, would be in Jan 2021. There are two main candidates from each party and quite a number of lesser known candidates. Loeffler's trading from Jan to March is much more suspicious of trading based on insider news about Covid, Loeffler and Sprecher had sold at least $18.7 million in Intercontinental Exchange stock. She had turned over documents to federal law enforcement and financial regulatory officials related to those stock trades.

Loeffler is also a co-owner of the WNBA Atlanta Dream. She's come into direct conflict with the team's players over their public support of the Black Lives Matter movement, doubling down on attacking the movement as anti-police and "Marxist" and accusing the team of trying to "cancel" her. Trump wanted Doug Collins, Rep, to be appointed to the Senate seat instead of Loeffler, and even when Kemp and Loeffler flew up in one of her private jets to meet with Trump, it went very badly. Sprecher has recently written a $1 million donation to a super PAC, America First Action, for Trump. A Trump endorsement would be decisive for Ga Rep voters. The primary candidates in Nov are Loeffler, Collins, Ralph Warnock (pastor Ebenezar Baptist Church) and Ed Tarver (former US District Attorney for southern Ga and State Senator0. The latter are the major Dem candidates and both are AA. Rating - Lean Rep
 
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OK that's valid. I don't buy that DeJoy is the boggieman either or uniquely responsible for what's going on. I just take Trump's statements at face value given the corresponding actions and their results.

This backs up what Irish #1 was saying. If anything this article claims DeJoy was more qualified than the recent Postmaster Generals from the W & Obama admins. Trump’s mouth & the media’s hatred of him made this more than what we were led to believe IMO.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/08/20/5-myths-about-the-postal-crisis-399584
 

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The primaries for national offices this past Tuesday - Alaska, Wyoming and Florida - were for the first two states fairly unremarkable. Both states elected their Representative in the Republican primary. (They are among the seven states with one Rep)

Florida has two battleground seats to the House - the 15th and the 26th. Ross Spano (R) the incumbent from the 15th lost, becoming the eighth incumbent to lose in their primaries.

Spano was endorsed by the the NRA, Club for Growth, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.), and Rep. Steve Scalise (R-La.). Spano raised over $1 million. His opponent was Scott Franklin, a veteran, raised half that.

Spano, however, is being investigated by the DoJ for campaign finance violations. Franklin, who touts his total support for Trump's agenda, hammered away - “He calls it a ‘mistake.’ The law calls it a crime.” and "Whether Spano is incompetent or corrupt, he shouldn't be your congressman."
 

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Getting rid of Collins wouldn't be the worst thing that ever happened. Wouldn't cry too bad over the loss of Lindsay either, all talk no action.

That is a pretty weak batch of GOP Senators overall.
 

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The Trump Presidency thread is a wasteland so I'll post about the RNC here. Kimberly Guilfoyle was literally terrifying -- she almost wipes out any goodwill created in the rest of the show. Whoever green lit that speech should be disgraced especially since it was pre-recorded.

Don Jr. was... not bad? Tim Scott was fantastic. Really also enjoyed some of their non-politician speakers like the Parkland Dad, Herschel Walker, and the Cuban Business Owner.
 

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I don't know that Trump has or will endorse Collins. Nor may she want him to. I can't imagine her wanting to return to the Senate if he wins either. Gideon is almost twenty years younger yet has been Speaker. Harrison is twenty-one years younger than Graham. Cunningham is twelve years younger than Tillis in NC. If Mitch wins re-election, he'll be 84 at the end of his term.

Mainers have probably watched what Trump's way with Collins and don't appreciate it. He treats Murkowski the same.

There's a good chance the Dems pick up three Senate seats west of the Rockies - Arizona, Colorado, Montana. If Maine, NC and Iowa go blue, the Senate will look much different.

Perdue needs to go in Georgia. He's 70 to Ossoff at 33. That special election in Georgia will probably not be decided until January.

House

Of the thirty-two House seats Dems won in '18 that were won by Reps and carried by Trump in '16, thirty are rated from Solid Dem to Tilt Dem. Only two are Toss-Up and none Tilt Rep. (Ratings by Roll Call)

Of the eight "Toss-Ups" by Roll Call, six are seats currently held by Republicans.
 
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I only caught about 5 minutes of Pence's speech, but what I did catch impressed me. If you know me, you know I have not been a fan of Pence's since his wife taught some of my kids in grade school.
 

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I only caught about 5 minutes of Pence's speech, but what I did catch impressed me. If you know me, you know I have not been a fan of Pence's since his wife taught some of my kids in grade school.

Would love to hear this story.

I haven't been a fan of Pence's since he tried to sue Notre Dame on some bullshit over their private records. $100 say he wouldn't have tried that shit if ND was evangelical.
 

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We've been talking a lot about the Post Office here -- and this thread popped up yesterday on ISD: https://irishsportsdaily.com/forums/1/topics/49993

So to recap, they scrapped billions of dollars of equipment to undermine the election (sorry, for "efficiency") and literally everyone that uses the mail regularly is seeing massive delays. There are stories of vets not getting vital medication, etc.

Meanwhile...
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Republican voters in Arizona, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania received mailers with a picture of the President urging them to vote by mail as the President attacks the mail-in voting as corrupt and rigged… <a href="https://t.co/EkxjFHJXt1">https://t.co/EkxjFHJXt1</a></p>— Congressman Raja Krishnamoorthi (@CongressmanRaja) <a href="https://twitter.com/CongressmanRaja/status/1298607016672362496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

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Would love to hear this story.

I haven't been a fan of Pence's since he tried to sue Notre Dame on some bullshit over their private records. $100 say he wouldn't have tried that shit if ND was evangelical.

His wife taught a couple of our kids in elementary school. We had a "back to school" night so teachers and parents could meet. We pull into the parking lot and Pence has a campaign bus parked in the parking lot with a big banner hanging on its side urging you to vote for Mike Pence. He's standing near the door shaking peoples hands asking for their vote.

Not the time or place for that IMO. Overall there's been much worse things happen on the campaign trail, but this just didn't sit well with me or the wife and it's always stuck with me even 40 years later. lol
 

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We've been talking a lot about the Post Office here -- and this thread popped up yesterday on ISD: https://irishsportsdaily.com/forums/1/topics/49993

So to recap, they scrapped billions of dollars of equipment to undermine the election (sorry, for "efficiency") and literally everyone that uses the mail regularly is seeing massive delays. There are stories of vets not getting vital medication, etc.

Meanwhile...
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Republican voters in Arizona, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania received mailers with a picture of the President urging them to vote by mail as the President attacks the mail-in voting as corrupt and rigged… <a href="https://t.co/EkxjFHJXt1">https://t.co/EkxjFHJXt1</a></p>— Congressman Raja Krishnamoorthi (@CongressmanRaja) <a href="https://twitter.com/CongressmanRaja/status/1298607016672362496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Who says |You can't have your cake and eat it to"?
 

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Notre Dame statement on Lou Holtz speaking at the RNC:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Statement from <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NotreDame</a> president Rev. John Jenkins, regarding Lou Holtz’ speech last night at the RNC. Holtz referred to Biden as “Catholic in name only”. <a href="https://t.co/uLedpuqvlF">pic.twitter.com/uLedpuqvlF</a></p>— Pete Byrne (@PeteByrneWSBT) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteByrneWSBT/status/1299070796669898752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

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No issue at all,... only issue I’d have is if BK or someone went to the DNC and the same issue arose and the University went crickets.
 
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