2020 Elections

[Circa]

"Half a million incorrect absentee ballot applications sent across Virginia, including to dead people"

 

[Circa]

Yeah conceptually it should make sense. But there's a lot of concerns over it - https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cs...so-why-are-some-governments-using-it.amp.html

If you thought identification issues with mail-in voting are tough to verify....

I get It. It's hard.
I hate to go down the rabbit hole again,(I've been getting Cancel Cultured), but It just seems like people try to find reasons to stop progress when it comes to voting.
Mail In voting seems to be corrupt. There Is no real way of knowing who filled out the ballot.
With a computer program like the IRS has in place, It seems like It could work.

For Example: If the IRS system Is that corruptible than why haven't we seen Trump's Tax return yet? If anyone could just hack the system than why?

 

[TorontoGold]

I get It. It's hard.
I hate to go down the rabbit hole again,(I've been getting Cancel Cultured), but It just seems like people try to find reasons to stop progress when it comes to voting.
Mail In voting seems to be corrupt. There Is no real way of knowing who filled out the ballot.
With a computer program like the IRS has in place, It seems like It could work.

For Example: If the IRS system Is that corruptible than why haven't we seen Trump's Tax return yet? If anyone could just hack the system than why?

Right, but no one is voluntarily filling out someones tax return. The infrastructure needed to keep everyone's tax info secure has probably taken decades to firm up.

In term's of online voting, the same issue of "no one knows who filled it out" is true there too. Foreign interference is a lot easier online then mail in voting.

You're way more likely to see Trump's tax return leaked from the firm that preps them, then from the IRS being hacked.

Someone in IT can better explain the issues with it.

 

[Legacy]

While Congress debates the next stimulus legislation, we are about to see a significant increase in the homeless population due to evictions and foreclosures. Many are moving in with their parents or family.

By November, either those people who move will need to update their addresses or will just be in shelters or they will not be able to vote. Disenfranchisement of the basic right in our republic?

Homeless shelters have varying levels of protection but stealing is a problem often depriving people of their identification documents.

How Oregon, as an example, handles it.
Homeless Voters and Those Wishing Confidentiality

On another voting issue, in Iowa.
Ernst says she supports felon voting rights despite Steve King’s prediction it will cost her votes
- Steve King, Rep of 4th District tweeted that Gov Reynolds order was "Cutting a deal with terrorist affiliated BLM will cost (Joni Ernst) 15,000 votes"
- In Iowa, 60% of the incarcerated felons are white.

“The Oldest, the Lowest, the Slowest”: Why Voting Isn’t Easy for Homeless People in Texas (Texas Monthly, March 2020)

 

[Legacy]

As quirky or strange as such Republican incumbents' losers and winners were (advocates for White Supremacy, election/voter fraud, a Q supporter), Democratic incumbents' losses follow a theme - progressives ousting long-serving and established Dems in heavily Dem districts.

Dan Lipinski, Illiinois District 3 (D+6) was beaten by Marie Newman, whom he beat by 2,200 votes in 2018. Lipinski held the seat from 2005 (eight terms). His father, Bill, held the seat from 1983-2005. Lipinski is Catholic, anti-abortion. Dan also taught American Government at Notre Dame for one year. Newman is a native of SW Chicago and progressive, well-funded and a busineswoman, who received endorsements from Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Chicago mayor Lori Lightfoot and Corey Booker.

Eliot Engel, NY District 16 (D+24) served fifteen terms and was beaten by Jamaal Bowman, a middle-school principal, and a progressive Democrat. Engel had represented NY since 1989. Bowman was the choice of voters leading Engel by almost 12,000 votes, 61.8% to 34.9% before absentee voters were counted. Bowman is African American.

Lacey Clay, Missouri 1st District (D+29) represented the St. Louis area for ten terms. His father held the same seat for thirty-two years prior to that. Clay was beaten by Cori Bush, a triage nurse and organizer who led the Ferguson demonstrations after Michael Brown was killed by police. Clay defeaated Bush in 2018 56.7% to 36.9%. Bush is African American.

Also noteworthy is that when long-time Dem leader, Nita Lowery, chair of the House Appropriations Committee retired (NY District 17, D+7), Mondaire Jones won the Dem primary. Jones is also African American, openly gay and served in Obama's Justice Dept.

All were supported by progressive PAC Justice Democrats.

 

[Irish#1]

Biden stated he has picked a running mate. To know one's surprise most think it's either Harris or Rice.

Like Trumps announcement of a payroll tax holiday and extending benefits, this is also a smart campaign move.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Biden stated he has picked a running mate. To know one's surprise most think it's either Harris or Rice.

Like Trumps announcement of a payroll tax holiday and extending benefits, this is also a smart campaign move.

Does Biden know who it is?

 

[drayer54]

Does Biden know who it is?

They'll probably give him two cups of applesauce to calm him down when they tell him.

 

[Irishize]

Biden stated he has picked a running mate. To know one's surprise most think it's either Harris or Rice.

Like Trumps announcement of a payroll tax holiday and extending benefits, this is also a smart campaign move.

I’m betting that it’s Susan Rice. Mayor Willie Brown, who knows Harris intimately, wrote an article that recommends she politely declines the offer to be Biden’s VP.

Can’t wait until Biden refers to Rice as Harris (or vice versa).

 

[Irish#1]

I’m betting that it’s Susan Rice. Mayor Willie Brown, who knows Harris intimately, wrote an article that recommends she politely declines the offer to be Biden’s VP.

Can’t wait until Biden refers to Rice as Harris (or vice versa).

I can't see it being Harris. She has a questionable background from her days in SF politics.

 

[drayer54]

I can't see it being Harris. She has a questionable background from her days in SF politics.

I don't think she would be a good choice.

Her days as a prosecutor are ripe for criticism and she failed to poll well amongst Democrats, so I struggle to see how a CA Senator wins the rust belt. Plus, her recent face work was weird and made her look like a bad mold.

I still think he goes with Duckworth because it is impossible to criticize her because of her status as a protected female liberal and combat vet. In an age where libs look more and more like SJW pussies to farmers and union workers, a combat vet may help in corn country. My .02.

 

[Irishize]

I can't see it being Harris. She has a questionable background from her days in SF politics.

I’m sure one of the reasons why her mentor, Mayor Brown; recommends she turn down the VP offer is to keep his own name out of the headlines b/c he would inevitably be mentioned as someone who “helped” her career. That’s assuming MSM even does any background on the VP choice. It’ll probably just be Fox who does background & they’ll be called “biased” & “racist” for doing their job.

 

[Legacy]

I like any of Karen Bass, Stacey Abrams or Val Demmings.

 

[RDU Irish]

Condi Rice, Michelle Obama or Oprah. His only path to victory.

 

[NDohio]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I have the great honor to announce that I’ve picked <a href="https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@KamalaHarris</a> — a fearless fighter for the little guy, and one of the country’s finest public servants — as my running mate.</p>— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1293280411150217219?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 11, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Circa]

Ironically i just listened to this podcast this morning. Kamala Harris was brought up. I recommend anyone to listen for a few minutes.

It starts at the KH conversation:<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Trh7YWo2Bmo" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

 

[IrishLax]

Kamala is the sensible pick. Neither helps nor hurts him. I think there were some better options, but at least he didn't pick a disaster like Karen Bass.

 

[Legacy]

I know of two former ND players (both on the '88 championship team, I believe) who are or were running for a U.S. House seat. Pat Fallon should easily win in the Texas 4th, which is heavily Republican (R+28). Ted Gradel lost the Rep primary in the Illinois 4th.

Fallon was selected by local and state GOP politicians to replace John Ratcliff, who is now DNI. Ratcliff won the district with 75% of the vote in '18. In January 2016, to raise funds and awareness for pediatric cancer research, Pat successfully completed the World Marathon Challenge, where competitors attempt to run 7 marathons on all 7 continents in 7 consecutive days. Pat was the first novice runner in the world to complete the ‘777’.

Anyone else?

 

[drayer54]

Kamala is the sensible pick. Neither helps nor hurts him. I think there were some better options, but at least he didn't pick a disaster like Karen Bass.

She did imply he was a racist on national TV, has had a known history with Willie Brown that is a great juxtaposition with Mike Pence, has a strong legacy of locking up the black vote, acknowledged she believed Joe Biden's accusers, and failed miserably in the primaries. She doesn't help.

 

[RDU Irish]

Kamala Harris showing Monica Lewinsky how its done. What an inspiration to young ladies everywhere.

 

[Irishize]

Kamala Harris showing Monica Lewinsky how its done. What an inspiration to young ladies everywhere.

Kamala had some t-shirts made immediately after her one-liner criticizing Biden as a segregationist. Wonder if the shirts were blew?

 

[Irish#1]

I can't see it being Harris. She has a questionable background from her days in SF politics.

Missed that by a mile! lol

Given Harris's past and comments about biden being a racist, I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall when they were discussing who Joe should pick.

 

[SonofOahu]

No one talking about Drumpf admitting to trying his best to fuck with the elections? Pretty much what I expected from you "fine gentlemen."

 

[Circa]

They'll probably give him two cups of applesauce to calm him down when they tell him.

Gotta bring back polls. I'll be a**hole but this above Is POTY. IMO

Hillarious.

 

[ulukinatme]

No one talking about Drumpf admitting to trying his best to fuck with the elections? Pretty much what I expected from you "fine gentlemen."

He was pretty much a lock to win the election again prior to Covid and the unemployment rising during the shut down. He's just evening the playing field a bit.

Always good to see you pop in for a condescending remark though, we miss ya around here!

 

[IrishLax]

He was pretty much a lock to win the election again prior to Covid and the unemployment rising during the shut down. He's just evening the playing field a bit.

Always good to see you pop in for a condescending remark though, we miss ya around here!

To be fair, it's crazy to read the Trump thread and not see a peep of the biggest news story the past few days. In the past few weeks:
-A Trump advisor went on television and said that "voting rights" are a liberal pipe dream.
-Trump said out loud that he is attacking the USPS and withholding money so that they can't process mail in ballots.
-Trump dismantled USPS leadership.
-Trump is removing mail sorting machines from USPS mail facilities for no apparent reason.
-USPS has confirmed that with their current disruption and delays from the executive branch that they can't process absentee ballot requests. Now legislators on both sides of the aisle are upset, and there are pending lawsuits to extend voting deadlines.

In recent polls, people who intend to vote absentee said they are voting against Trump by a 2-to-1 margin. So he's literally trying to steal an election. This isn't conjecture, it's what he admitted he is trying to do in his own words with statements on "voter fraud," not accepting the election results, wanting the winner declared night of to be "legitimate," and his actions to make absentee voting impossible.

I'd love to hear anyone -- Trump supporter or otherwise -- come up with an alternative explanation for why he is gutting the post office besides the reasons Trump has already said himself (i.e. the election). It's brazen, but no one seems to care because it helps "their guy".

 

[drayer54]

To be fair, it's crazy to read the Trump thread and not see a peep of the biggest news story the past few days. In the past few weeks:
-A Trump advisor went on television and said that "voting rights" are a liberal pipe dream.
-Trump said out loud that he is attacking the USPS and withholding money so that they can't process mail in ballots.
-Trump dismantled USPS leadership.
-Trump is removing mail sorting machines from USPS mail facilities for no apparent reason.
-USPS has confirmed that with their current disruption and delays from the executive branch that they can't process absentee ballot requests. Now legislators on both sides of the aisle are upset, and there are pending lawsuits to extend voting deadlines.

In recent polls, people who intend to vote absentee said they are voting against Trump by a 2-to-1 margin. So he's literally trying to steal an election. This isn't conjecture, it's what he admitted he is trying to do in his own words with statements on "voter fraud," not accepting the election results, wanting the winner declared night of to be "legitimate," and his actions to make absentee voting impossible.

I'd love to hear anyone -- Trump supporter or otherwise -- come up with an alternative explanation for why he is gutting the post office besides the reasons Trump has already said himself (i.e. the election). It's brazen, but no one seems to care because it helps "their guy".

Preventing the left from flooding people with ballots in an election experiment is not wrong. He has stated he is fine with absentee voting. Maybe no peeps mentioned because it isn’t really a story?

 

[TorontoGold]

Lax, I'm also surprised there hasn't been more kicked up about QAnon supporter winning the GOP primary. Excited to see the revisionist history about "i always hated her, don't like her" the same way Steve Kkking was talked about.

 

[IrishLax]

Preventing the left from flooding people with ballots in an election experiment is not wrong. He has stated he is fine with absentee voting. Maybe no peeps mentioned because it isn’t really a story?

OK so you're fine with Trump unilaterally dismantling the post office in the middle of the pandemic because it could help him in the election. That's what I figured.

The idea that it "isn't really a story" when it has been top trending news basically everywhere for multiple days; has Republican legislators speaking out against him on it; and has lawsuits being filed by state governments is a pretty good joke. I don't know what news you get (OANN? InfoWars?) but it's being covered in length everywhere from right-leaning publications (Washington Times, Wall Street Journal, etc.) to the center and left leaning ones.

 

[IrishLax]

Lax, I'm also surprised there hasn't been more kicked up about QAnon supporter winning the GOP primary. Excited to see the revisionist history about "i always hated her, don't like her" the same way Steve Kkking was talked about.

It's going to be a wild couple months. Voting in a pandemic is weird... we saw the Kentucky primary take multiple weeks to sort out because of the amount of absentee ballots that needed to be counted. Primaries, in general, are all about turnout and passion, and nobody really knows how suppression of in person voting is going to affect those this year. Does widespread absentee voting actually make it easier to get involved in elections? Or is it going to end up with lower overall turnout than last cycle?